Why Isn't Mark Harris Behind Bars for His NC Election Fraud Scheme?

[dlk]

Neither Harris nor the GOP should get a pass for their blatant election fraud scheme, and they certainly shouldn’t get a second chance and a do-over election. Instead, they should be made to forfeit the election and the congressional seat for their cheating scheme and Dan Mc Cready should immediately be declared the winner. It’s stunning to see the GOP get away with this, especially since they’re always outraged and campaigning against election fraud.

[alwaysinasnit]

1. +1000

[Obvious85]

45. Considering that Texas Woman just got 5 years for voter fraud

Fraud committed by the candidate has to garner more than 5 years then!

[alwaysinasnit]

46. You're right. If this guy gets convicted, what do you think the odds are of him serving

more than the 5 years that the Texas woman got, seeing as this is election fraud?

[FakeNoose]

2. Good question - why is he still a candidate in the runoff election?

At the very least he should be disqualified from ever running in that district.

[okaawhatever]

40. The election commission isn't considered a court of law per se, and doesn't have the right to

punish or convict anyone. All they can do is certify or not certify the election. They did not certify it, therefore the election happens again with the same candidates. That is actually good for us. The republicans want the primaries to be repeated so they can get another candidate, but hopefully that won't happen.

BTW, the election commission forwarded McCrae Dowless' name to the DOJ for prosecution for the 2016 election, but Trump's DOJ did absolutely nothing.

[LisaM]

3. It goes back to the primaries.

His primary opponent was also a victim of the scheme, and I think he was an incumbent.

The operative also needs to be charged.

[jmowreader]

43. He was an incumbent

[salin]

47. If I recall - he used the same ballot fraud scheme perp as a consultant - in the primary in 2016

which is why the son - by reviewing election results (? presumably) came to the conclusion that in 2016 there was some fraud going on in the primary elections.

He is also slimed by the use of absentee voter fraud to win the seat in 2016.

Both "candidates" are tainted. But perhaps he was unaware of the scheme - as he didn't hire the guy (or perhaps was turned down because he was already hired by Harris?) in the reelection campaign.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. I have heard that an investigation has been opened.

These things take time; they don't happen instantly. He's entitled to due process, a trial if necessary, just like everyone else. And obviously the GOP didn't get away with it because a new election has been ordered. The way their election laws work doesn't allow for McCready being declared the winner. There has to be a new election.

[bullimiami]

5. I think referrals have been made to the SA office.

He certainly looks to have known exactly who and what he was hiring.

Yes, he also scammed Pittenger (no gem but less vile than Harris) out of a primary.

I don't see how he will able to remain a candidate after saying he had sepsis and 2 strokes and it made him lie.

[mahina]

49. Did you see what his son said when he asked if

It would be ok to proceed with the plan?

It’s fine, if you don’t mind it being on the news.

That young man will have to testify.

Why they couldn’t compete fair and square I don’t know.

[bullimiami]

50. Yes. I think this is a big part of what brought the hammer down.

Harris was still grandstanding before that.

Simple. They didn't run an honest campaign because Harris is not an honest person.

[brooklynite]

6. Because he hasn't been tried yet?

The facts of the case only came out -- officially -- at this week's hearing. NOW we move ahead to criminal prosecution.

[CurtEastPoint]

7. Because Jeebus and stuff...

[dameatball]

8. Democrats may actually benefit from his remaining on the ballot. Let him lose and then prosecute him

This guy is going to be like a piñata.

[stuffmatters]

24. Exactly

[malaise]

9. +1,000

Get thee to the greatest page

[getagrip_already]

10. better question - why hasn't the guy who tampered with the actual ballots been arrested?

Shoplifters get arrested on less evidence. Why hasn't this guy at least been booked? It sounds like his whole family was in on it. They already flipped on him.

Jeebus. How much more does a prosecutor need? The guy is even a convicted felon. It's not like they need a lot of legal cover here.

[tinrobot]

11. Because it takes longer than a few days to try and convict someone

The most damning evidence came out just this week when his son testified.

He needs to lawyer up now. Charges will happen.

[bluestarone]

12. AGREE!!! 100%

[dlk]

13. Harris Should Forfeit Because of His Felonious Cheating

The GOP doesn’t deserve a second bite of the apple. And if, unfortunately, there is a do-over, McCready shouldn’t have to spend one more dollar for the campaign. Democrats didn’t violate election law. The GOP should have underwrite the costs for both sides.

[Honeycombe8]

14. Good points. I wonder what's up with that. Any North Carolinians here? nt

[NurseJackie]

15. "Oops. Got caught. My bad. Do over?"

Absolutely not. Any cheater should forfeit the race and the victory should be given to the person with the next highest total.

[JunkYardDogg]

16. 'cuz he's a rightous Christian Pastard

He done gots Gawd on his side,

[Fritz Walter]

17. Well, there's one possible answer...

Sheriff Andy Taylor did exist, and his friend Goober became secretary of state in NC.

[R Merm]

33. Elaine Marshall is the SOS, and a Democrat as is the Josh Stain the Attorney General and

the Wake County DA who I believe is tasked with investigating this. Part of the delays were due to some funky stuff the Repug GA did to try to weaken our Democratic Governor, that was overturned by the court.

[Ford_Prefect]

39. Fritz speaks out of turn. Elaine Marshall, Secretary of state for NC, is a friend to ALL voters.

The local elections board must swear a complaint and send it to the AG. Since the previous board was dissolved before they could do so none has gone forward until now.

Your anti-southern bias is sadly misplaced and dishonors NC Democrats, Elaine Among them. Shame on you for such lazy thinking.

[OMGWTF]

18. Rethuglicans always rail against voter fraud and not election fraud, at which they're experts.

Very few cases of actual voter fraud occur and where it has been discovered, it's usually an "R" who committed it. Lie, cheat, and steal is their MO. This abomination must go the way of the Whigs.

[diva77]

19. EXACTLY!!! So far the only recourse in these matters has been for citizens to come up with the

funding themselves, and nonprofits, and sue the violators, such as elections officials, in court. We have a SERIOUS weakness in our elections infrastructure that protects corrupt politicians and elections officials and does nothing to protect citizens and even allows officials to intimidate citizens who speak out.

[dhol82]

20. Because he's white?

[dugog55]

21. Maybe

they are setting the precedent for when Trump gets busted for stealing the Presidency from Hillary. Just a do-over with no consequences.

[Botany]

22. Because he is a pastor.

N/t

[peggysue2]

23. Because he cried during his son's testimony

That appears to be a cleansing ritual for evangelicals--they cry when caught up in anything unseemly. Hard not to recall Jimmy Swaggart and his famous display of contrition.

As for the GOP? They're as hypocritical as these evangelical ministers. It's all about winning 24/7.

I agree. There should be no second chances on this one--a clear case of election fraud by a group that makes the ominous 'voter fraud' an endless battle cry.

[malaise]

26. What if his wonderful 'pure as the driven snow'

son now runs to replace daddy. I'm cynical enough not to trust one of them

[peggysue2]

29. Oh, Lordy!

Hadn't even considered that, malaise. Wouldn't that be perfect.

[okaawhatever]

35. Doubt it. His son is a lawyer for the DOJ and told his dad not to hire the guy. Said it looked fishy

Then ratted out his dad on the stand. I shouldn't say he ratted him out. He told the truth, that is all. Clearly his son is not republican material.

[malaise]

41. Hope you're right

[Baltimike]

25. IOKIYAR nt

[guillaumeb]

27. Is there evidence that he was a party to the cheating?

And did he confess to it if there is no evidence?

[shanny]

34. wellll, he was warned by his legal eagle son of legal issues with that operative

...and then he hired him. Isn't that criminal intent?

[guillaumeb]

36. I am not an attorney.

My opinion is yes, it shows why he hired him. But proving it is the issue.

[shanny]

37. Me neither.

I am hoping that the recent developments do result in a criminal referral, preferably in the middle of the do-over.

[guillaumeb]

38. And at least massive fines, if not a requirement that he sell the team.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. At least NOT allowed to run again or investigated or indicted. But, as we all know

IOKIYAR

But hoping that no longer applies with the new sheriffs in town

[drray23]

30. good question. i was wondering the same thing.

Not only Harris but all those involved in that scheme.

[GoCubsGo]

31. Because he has an "R" after his name.

[shanny]

32. IKR?

The biggest consequence is a do-over? We are doomed.

[onecaliberal]

42. Because he's a republicon.

[debsy]

44. such a bunch of bs

why isn't donald trump behind bars?
why isn't jeffrey epstein behind bars?
why isn't alex acosta behind bars?

Oh, yeah. like someone else said a few posts back: they are republican.

why do 89% of republican voters still support dumpster? oh, yeah. they are MORANS!

[Amaryllis]

48. Because he's a republican.

[Firestorm49]

51. EXACTLY