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Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:55 PM

The Green New Deal and Dianne Feinstein

More on the Dianne Feinstein meeting with kids regarding the Green New Deal:

". . . .But Feinstein was, in fact, demonstrating why climate change exemplifies an issue on which older people should listen to the young. Because—to put it bluntly—older generations will be dead before the worst of it hits. The kids whom Feinstein was talking to are going to be dealing with climate chaos for the rest of their lives, as any Californian who has lived through the past few years of drought, flood, and fire must recognize. . . ."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-hard-lessons-of-dianne-feinsteins-encounter-with-the-young-green-new-deal-activists-video

Edited to add: Article written by Bill McKibben of 350.org

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Reply The Green New Deal and Dianne Feinstein (Original post)
h2ebits Feb 2019 OP
Va Lefty Feb 2019 #1
manor321 Feb 2019 #4
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #6
wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #10
SunSeeker Feb 2019 #11
manor321 Feb 2019 #2
hedda_foil Feb 2019 #37
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #3
LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #30
X_Digger Feb 2019 #31
R B Garr Feb 2019 #5
UniteFightBack Feb 2019 #7
R B Garr Feb 2019 #22
melman Feb 2019 #19
R B Garr Feb 2019 #20
melman Feb 2019 #21
R B Garr Feb 2019 #23
wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #8
RelativelyJones Feb 2019 #9
X_Digger Feb 2019 #32
Kurt V. Feb 2019 #12
msongs Feb 2019 #13
melman Feb 2019 #18
gabeana Feb 2019 #25
Iggo Feb 2019 #28
hatrack Feb 2019 #34
stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #14
Me. Feb 2019 #15
aikoaiko Feb 2019 #36
Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #16
Stare Decisis Feb 2019 #17
m-lekktor Feb 2019 #24
still_one Feb 2019 #27
still_one Feb 2019 #26
Horizens Feb 2019 #29
Gothmog Feb 2019 #33
Autumn Feb 2019 #35

Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 12:58 PM

1. The Rude one nails it!

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:01 PM

4. Feinstein is not "in the way". That's nonsense. Republicans are in the way.

 

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:04 PM

6. This 'pundit' sounds ignorant. Just read the last line of the lyric...WHO IN THIS COUNTRY WON'T

 

LEND A HAND? It ain't Feinstein ...it's REPUBLICANS. Can't believe you are cheering that.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:10 PM

10. So what is he and the young ones doing but bitching and complaining.

 

It is easy to type Dylan’s words. It is much harder to work in the Senate.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:13 PM

11. A rare swing and a miss by The Rude One.

This is not a young versus old thing. This is a Democrat versus Republican thing. It is Republicans who are blocking action.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:00 PM

2. It was a dumb political stunt by leftists attacking the Democratic party

 

The problem is Republicans funded by the fossil fuel industry to deny global warming. Diane Feinstein is not the problem.

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Response to manor321 (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:13 PM

37. Could you please diss the Republicans and leave the children alone?

Claiming that they're shills is truly repugnant. What the fuck do you have against a Green New Deal anyway? Because this crap is too Russian trollish for a DUer to even be hinting at.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:00 PM

3. I cannot wait until all these young people get in office and fix everything. I mean its so easy

 

right? All these old folks are just old and in the way..?

Un fucking real.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:56 PM

30. Definately easier for them

The "old folks" are primarily made up of politicians, of either party, that have garnered and built up donor money from the corporate sector, some for decades already. And the more they win, the more $ they get for the next run. It becomes less and less in their interest to move the goalposts, even if they talk a great game. OF COURSE it is easier for a fresh, unsaddled, younger member....if they would actually be allowed to operate, to define the agenda.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:18 PM

31. They have no clue about reality.

If it happened before they can remember, and/or it wasn't covered on youtube, instagram, snapchat, twitch, vimeo, or periscope, then it doesn't exist.

They come to the same realizations we did 30 years ago, but they treat it like the second coming of christ because it's their own idea. Somehow the ideas are better and truer, only because they came to the idea anew (to them).

They expect adoration and attention because they haven't a fucking clue that what they've just discovered is neither as novel nor as simple as they imagine.

And god forbid anyone point that out to the little darlings.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:02 PM

5. Oh! All the kiddies have to do is wait for some people to die

and then they can do whatever they want! No problemo!

Great idea! It’s so simple!

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:05 PM

7. And then the younger generation will be yelling at them saying vote them out they

 

aren't doing enough blah blah blah INSTEAD of taking aim where it needs to be. Un fucking real.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:42 PM

22. Yup, looks like they are being completely manipulated and lied to.

It’s amazing Justice Democrats can’t explain to the kids themselves how Republicans operate.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:36 PM

19. "the kiddies "

 

Lovely.

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Response to melman (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:38 PM

20. I bet you're fine with derogatory comments about Feinstein's

age...? This is a continued ridiculous hit job on Feinstein, mostly rooted in her age. Her environmental record isn’t the issue here...... Those kids were used as props...shameful.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:41 PM

21. You bet wrong

 

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Response to melman (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:43 PM

23. LOL

The crux of this attack on Feinstein is her age.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:07 PM

8. The kids know more about climate change than DiFi?

 

Why do we need a Senate? Get a bunch of kids to run things. They will be living in the future.


That’s how kids think.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:10 PM

9. Do not agree

The GND is a pack of aspirational bumper stickers, not a concrete policy proposal. DiFi is doing the hard work to build meaningful legislation. Using kids as props is shameful...especially against a legislator with a powerful environmental record. Normally I like the Rude Pundit but his response is glib and stupid here.

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Response to RelativelyJones (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 04:20 PM

32. You have to wonder how many have read the actual GND

I mean it's what, 12 pages, was it? About six pages of meat taking out all the whereas and wherefore's. And none of it concrete.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:24 PM

12. K&R

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:25 PM

13. one wonders if these "kids" get around in gas powered cars and planes or if they all ride their

bikes and walk everywhere

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Response to msongs (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:35 PM

18. When one wonders a thing like that

 

they should be aware that it's a lot like the people that say "what global warming? Look at all this snow!1!"

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Response to melman (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:23 PM

25. Exactly

It's bizarre reading DU last couple of days attacking kids and and organization working to educate them on their futures

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Response to melman (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:38 PM

28. You ain't wrong. (n/t)

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Response to msongs (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:42 PM

34. Well, OK then . . .

I guess that anybody who drives, or rides a train, or flies, or uses electricity is unworthy to comment on the topic.

Thanks for clearing that up!

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:25 PM

14. #facknews !

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:28 PM

15. Is Mr. McKibben Aware That The Video Was Edited By A Justice Democrat?

Seems like all those who spoke about it this morning weren't, even Heather McGhee, who is usually on top of such situations

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Response to Me. (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:44 PM

36. Yes, and you would know this is you read the brief article.


This means that youth carry the moral authority here, and, at the very least, should be treated with the solicitousness due a generation that older ones have managed to screw over. Feinstein’s condescension, though it’s less jarring in the video of the full encounter, which also shows gracious moments—including one when she offers a young person an internship—echoed that of Nancy Pelosi, from earlier this month, when the Speaker of the House talked about “the green dream, or whatever they call it. Nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it, right?”

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:31 PM

16. I remember when Jello Biafra ran against Feinstein

 

for mayor of San Francisco.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:33 PM

17. I hold my tongue

 

until I can discern if there is a fork in the speaker's. When dealing with a legit pioneer progressive like DiFi when in doubt give the benefit of the doubt. A lot of people here bought that video hook line and sinker. Why? Who has more cred? Duh.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:43 PM

24. Its amusing as hell the lengths people are going to make excuses for her vile comments!

They are even trashing the kids she sneered at now. unfuckingbelievable.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:37 PM

27. I am so glad that MY STATE of Califonria has moved up its primary to Super Tuesday

and what "vile" comments were those?

Do you even know where she stands on environmental issues, because it sure seems you have no idea



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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:35 PM

26. f**k that. Do this idiots even know Feinstein's record on the environment? This is the same

bullshit they tried to pull against Hillary, Pelosi and others, by distorting, misrepresenting, and lying about them

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Dianne_Feinstein.htm

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 03:52 PM

29. The Article is Bullshirt

 

The article is based on a doctored 13 - minute video released by the Sunshine Movement, a group led by and composed of AOC former campaign staffers. The encounter, in fact, was 20 minutes long and, seen in its entirety, sheds a totally different light on Feinstein and the engagement. The edited video is worthy of a James O’keefe Production.

The piece shamelessly manipulates and uses children as props in a hit piece targeting a Senator who has a long and sterling record on environmental issues.

Feinstein did not, as the doctored video implies, walk out yelling at the kids. She departed amicably after encouraging the kids to run for office, offering one of them an internship and mentioning her own recently released climate change resolution far more detailed than AOC’s nothing burger Green Deal – a proposal that is as substantive as a beauty contestants desire for world peace.

AOC (and every group she has spawned/supports) is an albatross for democrats entering the 2020 election cycle.

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Response to h2ebits (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:38 PM

33. For this thread

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 05:43 PM

35. Technically she didn't offer the girl an internship, the girl asked for one and Feinstein

immediately agreed to give her one and told an aide to set it up. Which was an awesome thing for the Senator to do. It's in the video.

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