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procon

(15,805 posts)
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:42 PM Feb 2019

Why are so many Republicans in shirtsleeves without their jackets on?

I saw 3, possibly 4 of 'em dressed for Casual Wednesday, and not this important, internationally broadcast hearing. They look like sleazy used car salesmen or clones office rats working in a 20 story insurance building.

What is the "look" these guys are trying to make? "Ah, gee whiz, I'm just a poor old country boy from Sleepy Holler, and I cant even afford to go buy a $10 jacket at a thrift shop cuz I'm workin' hard doing gawd and the people's business here in the swamp."

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Why are so many Republicans in shirtsleeves without their jackets on? (Original Post) procon Feb 2019 OP
Because they're disgraceful. onecaliberal Feb 2019 #1
And disrespectful Retrograde Feb 2019 #20
"Man of the people"...bullshit. Zoonart Feb 2019 #2
The heat is up and they're sweaty. milestogo Feb 2019 #3
When it comes to republican image, I don't care. You're right, they are the swamp. ffr Feb 2019 #4
No, it's all for TV optics. By doing so, they look.... machoneman Feb 2019 #5
It also supposed to signify they're rolling up their sleeves and getting to work. brush Feb 2019 #28
in preparation for looming flop sweat ? dweller Feb 2019 #6
"Call now with your credit card number! Do it NOW!" dalton99a Feb 2019 #7
Flop sweat. lunatica Feb 2019 #8
My first thought was that they want to look tough and intimidating. Of course, the reality cornball 24 Feb 2019 #9
All hot & bothered Blue Owl Feb 2019 #10
The heat is on. They're sweating. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #11
Jim Jordan start this shit Cosmocat Feb 2019 #12
Dressing down suggests the hearing is not important, official, significant or deserving of respect. LonePirate Feb 2019 #13
Yep, it's casual Corgigal Feb 2019 #15
Yeah, I think you hit it straight on. procon Feb 2019 #17
But Jim Jordan NEVER wears a coat Poiuyt Feb 2019 #27
Exactly! It's an attempt at disrespect Greybnk48 Feb 2019 #32
Nervous is why you need Soft & Dri (anyone remember that commercial?) Mrs. Overall Feb 2019 #14
Oh, they rolled up their sleves to do the work of and for the American people..... a kennedy Feb 2019 #16
I wish Democrats would do the same DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #18
I don't know that I'd necessarily label normal business attire procon Feb 2019 #19
I was a software developer for decades DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #22
Right, those types of jobs probably warrant casual attire. procon Feb 2019 #23
Yes, I understand how that works DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #24
What do you have against business attire? Blue_true Feb 2019 #29
It's an absurd costume. DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #30
That can be said about a lot of things, yet they are woven in the social fabric. Blue_true Feb 2019 #33
I wear a suit & tie nearly every day. It's a sign of respect to your colleagues, peers, and Progressive Law Feb 2019 #37
When I started at NASA in 1967 DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #38
I'm saying it is a sign of respect to the people who don't hold the same views about Progressive Law Feb 2019 #39
I have no respect for their views. DavidDvorkin Feb 2019 #40
That's why I said that wearing business attire shows you have respect for them. Progressive Law Feb 2019 #42
I think there should be an adherence PatSeg Feb 2019 #36
They want to appear as though they're all working soooooo hard Totally Tunsie Feb 2019 #21
Because they can't get the flop sweat stains out ornotna Feb 2019 #25
All show for their base! bluestarone Feb 2019 #26
My father took me to Robert Hall when I was 10 years old. Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #31
I finally found out who you are. You're someone after all. displacedtexan Feb 2019 #35
Thank you, Cold War Spook Feb 2019 #43
There's only one explanation: hot flashes displacedtexan Feb 2019 #34
Lying makes you hot and sweaty. They wanted to take their coats off to avoid sweating. UCmeNdc Feb 2019 #41

Retrograde

(10,134 posts)
20. And disrespectful
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:24 PM
Feb 2019

They wouldn't dare go to the House dressed so casually if the GOP still had control - it's a subtle way of showing contempt for this committee and of the Democratic-run House in general. Or childish -take your pick.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
4. When it comes to republican image, I don't care. You're right, they are the swamp.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:51 PM
Feb 2019

But maybe they know they'll have bad body odor after their soap box statements.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
5. No, it's all for TV optics. By doing so, they look....
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:52 PM
Feb 2019

different from all the suited men and dressed women. Think about it: a white shirt stands out among all the dark men's and women's jackets/dresses. Bait for future TV ads as trhey run for re-election.

brush

(53,771 posts)
28. It also supposed to signify they're rolling up their sleeves and getting to work.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 08:28 PM
Feb 2019

It an old campaign tactic.

dweller

(23,629 posts)
6. in preparation for looming flop sweat ?
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:52 PM
Feb 2019

or maybe SS uniforms in the cleaners?

lack of decorum... these are not important hearings...
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cornball 24

(1,475 posts)
9. My first thought was that they want to look tough and intimidating. Of course, the reality
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:54 PM
Feb 2019

is that they reveal themselves to be the slimeballs that they are.

Blue Owl

(50,355 posts)
10. All hot & bothered
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:57 PM
Feb 2019

That their dear leader is being exposed for the lying, cheating, racist piece of shit that he is

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
12. Jim Jordan start this shit
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:02 PM
Feb 2019

its his way to trying intimidate people, and republicans being smarmy pukebag trolls, of course have to mimic him.

If this was some shit Ds were doing, they would be losing their minds.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
15. Yep, it's casual
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:08 PM
Feb 2019

Not even worth the optics to wear a suit.

Lame, but it's all they got. Masterminds.

procon

(15,805 posts)
17. Yeah, I think you hit it straight on.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 03:13 PM
Feb 2019

It is a sign of disrespect to attend an important function and dress inappropriately. Its the sort of passive aggressive acting out that teenager kids do, not serious minded adults who are supposedly working on the people's business.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
27. But Jim Jordan NEVER wears a coat
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:53 PM
Feb 2019

He probably has a formal portrait somewhere where he's wearing one, otherwise you never see him in one.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
32. Exactly! It's an attempt at disrespect
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

by the good ole' boys. They ain't gunna respect the DemoCRAT hearing.

I look forward to metaphorically keelhauling these fuckers!

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. I don't know that I'd necessarily label normal business attire
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:02 PM
Feb 2019

as "formal clothing". In white collar professional offices, suits are the standard. You could also say that by dressing the part, a professional is less likely to be confused with the guy from IT who is under your desk, wiring up your computer.

DavidDvorkin

(19,474 posts)
22. I was a software developer for decades
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 05:01 PM
Feb 2019

And an aerospace engineer before that. My colleagues and I did our high-level work while comfortably dressed in casual clothing. Suits are a way of playing "dress like grownups".

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. Right, those types of jobs probably warrant casual attire.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 05:41 PM
Feb 2019

The "grownup" jobs I referred to were professional people like lawyers, or corp businesses, broadcasters, the financial sector, places where appearances are sort of baked in. I worked in graphic arts dept at a large brand production studio and we were beyond casual, but when sent to do a demo to company VIPs, or make a presentation to potential new clients, or shipped off to seminars, we did dress very conservatively in suits.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
29. What do you have against business attire?
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:11 PM
Feb 2019

It has been that way for centuries, people that held what were considered important jobs, like leaders, dressed to the nines. Just the way it is, baked in over many centuries. You are free to wear what you like, so are other people. I seldom wear a suit because my line of work does not require one most of the time, but there are situations when a suit is appropriate.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. That can be said about a lot of things, yet they are woven in the social fabric.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:04 PM
Feb 2019

I can see where you are coming from, I personally would like to tear down capitalism and rebuild it to be more people oriented (how people are impacted being a key concern), but it want happen, even if I was beyond mega rich (though in that case I could do a lot to reform it).

As far suits are concerned, I really don't care.

 

Progressive Law

(617 posts)
37. I wear a suit & tie nearly every day. It's a sign of respect to your colleagues, peers, and
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:13 PM
Feb 2019

...superiors, depending on the employment field, such as law. I agree that it is a costume. But not everyone feels that way. So wearing the "costume" shows that you are able to alter your behavior in order to help advance your client's goals.

DavidDvorkin

(19,474 posts)
38. When I started at NASA in 1967
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:39 PM
Feb 2019

We engineers wore dress clothing, including ties. I didn't see it as a sign of respect. I saw it as a sign of control -- being controlled.

 

Progressive Law

(617 posts)
39. I'm saying it is a sign of respect to the people who don't hold the same views about
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:04 PM
Feb 2019

...business attire that you do. It those other people deem business attire is required, then dressing in business attire shows you have respect for their views about it.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
36. I think there should be an adherence
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:12 PM
Feb 2019

to the dress code in congress. The casual look of Jim Jordan (all the time it seems) comes across as disrespectful and slovenly.

I don't think it is too much to ask our elected officials to dress in accordance with the importance of the office.

And it is my understanding that shirt-sleeves is against the dress code.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
21. They want to appear as though they're all working soooooo hard
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 04:31 PM
Feb 2019

that they need to remove their jackets and roll up their sleeves. BullPucky.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
31. My father took me to Robert Hall when I was 10 years old.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 09:57 PM
Feb 2019

From that day on, every time we went out to eat, no matter what restaurant, I wore a suit. Men and boys wore suits in the 40s and 50s and women and girls wore dresses. I didn't wear a t-shirt growing up, except for gym, until I enlisted. We didn't need a dress code for school, everyone knew what was proper to wear. My father sold tires to trucking companies and wore a suit every day.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
35. I finally found out who you are. You're someone after all.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 10:07 PM
Feb 2019

'Twas on the label of your suit. Your name is Robert Hall.

Never thought I'd ever have the chance to use that little ditty again.

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