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(11,627 posts)Kim said he didn't know about it. He gave Trump his word! He can be trusted just like Bin Salman when he says he didn't send six guys and a bonesaw to torture an American to death, and Putin when he says he didn't ratfuck our election...
ooky
(8,921 posts)Sickening, isn't it.
Bromwell
(123 posts)Of all the things tRump is...at the very top of the list he is an absolute coward.
maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)He was a resident of America, and a columnist for an American newspaper, but he was a Saudi citizen. Its accurate to describe him as a Saudi political refugee.
central scrutinizer
(11,646 posts)When youre a tyrannical dictator, hell let you do anything
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)more than he trusts honest, decent, loyal American citizens?
Sick.
FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)... grain of salt. OK?
I don't think Chump "trusts" anybody, but he can be bought. He can be badgered into saying anything that might be politically expedient for him.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)Hope the Angel Moms ate listening.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)And obviously over you guys are well.
Anyone with a brain and some common sense with a touch of truth and compassion would know that Un is lying, but alas, t-rump is a liar too, therefore, birds of a feather . . .
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He finds it profitable to hobnob with dictators, so he praises them.
Larrybanal
(227 posts)because he will give away america just to hear how great he is...from someone other than himself. trump needs seraphim to constantly sing his praises
LonePirate
(13,414 posts)I have no idea how they didnt rip those bastards to shreds, including the POS pretending to be President. I would be screaming from the rooftops and finding every television camera possible to denounce their idiocy and evil.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Of course, there would be a prefatory 20 minutes of screaming and ranting with the only cognizable words being "Are you out of your fucking mind?!"
But after that . . .
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)even if he gave their son's murderer a pass? I'm sorry but I wouldn't be surprised if the found a way to give Trump a pass.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Cause if they STILL would vote for IQ45, even after what he said, they should probably be forced to watch those scenes ... and realize that Un ... had a bunch of people to go all Prince Ramsey on their kid ... and their Cult Leader DEFENDED him.
Maybe that'd 'jar' them into thinking correctly about the situation.
Maybe.
dalton99a
(81,432 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)in HIS denials of his lies, crimes and deviant behavior.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Isn't that enough?
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)for not immediately extracting their son from a situation that he helped instigate (taking a Kim poster as he was about to leave for home). Regardless of the country or the leader, when a guest there, respect their sensibilities, even misguided ones.
They are realizing that Trump has been using them.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wonder if they still will be.
kpete
(71,981 posts)From Trumps 2018 State of the Union:
Otto Warmbier was a hardworking student at the University of Virginia. On his way to study abroad in Asia, Otto joined a tour to North Korea. At its conclusion, this wonderful young man was arrested and charged with crimes against the state. After a shameful trial, the dictatorship sentenced Otto to 15 years of hard labor, before returning him to America last June horribly injured and on the verge of death. He passed away just days after his return.
Ottos Parents, Fred and Cindy Warmbier, are with us tonight along with Ottos brother and sister, Austin and Greta. You are powerful witnesses to a menace that threatens our world, and your strength inspires us all. Tonight, we pledge to honor Ottos memory with American resolve.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/02/28/otto-warmbier-what-president-trump-has-said-warmbier-north-korea/3014280002/
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)... I imagine they've lost their prop value now.
Though they are still protecting Cheeto by not saying his name
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)I feel horrible for Otto, but hi parents kinda sucked.
Bromwell
(123 posts)not a mention of this at all....I imagine it's buried in there somewhere but it sure ain't a headline. This is another trick they do...they keep the bad tRump news from their little baby brained viewership. I imagine even a trumpanzee might not like this latest atrocity by the fake POTUS....but who knows with those deplorables.
Marcuse
(7,475 posts)The others are on it for the judiciary, civil wrongs and tax cuts.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Shows how much contempt he has for others life, or this country. He's done this numerous times with evil murderous dictators around the world. Trump and the gop taking the side of murderers and corrupt criminals over Americans is the opposite of making America great again, its making us the bad guys now for allowing this to happen, over and over again , and trump says nothing other than he believe's these criminals. That what other criminals do, stand up for each other.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)their son, murdered by Kim; their "president" gives him a total pass. Insult and injury don't even cover it. it's a travesty.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They ripped away at President Obama and Hillary for not getting their son out of a situation his own thoughtlessness created, eventhough President Obama was using back doors to raise his situation to the North Korean leaders and get him home.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)i guess it depends on how far down the fox hole they are.
nonetheless their pain is real.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But, they were likely conservative to begin with. The liberals that I know teach their kids to respect other people's culture, even if that culture is a bit strange, if the kids feel uncomfortable, they are taught to leave without causing a scene.
Yes, their pain is real, but I seriously doubt if they have had one second of self reflection about what they stand for as human beings and how they raised their son. Sorry if that sounds cold, but some things are what they are and people throw off indications as to what they are as people. Should their son be dead, absolutely not, but his thoughtlessness put him in the situation that he ended up in.
barbtries
(28,787 posts)about how he came to be in NK, and was arrested and so on.
I am curious whether the Warmbiers would still vote for trump and if they still keep their tvs tuned to fox.
it's just i lost my daughter. horribly, but not this horribly. her death was not adjudicated justly, not this unjustly. i recall too well the pain of the loss and the added pain of the injustice. now trump has thrown them over, obviously as always entirely bereft of any compassion or empathy whatsoever, so he can kiss the ass of a murderous dictator, the same one who murdered their son. i feel for them.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Not worth him being killed for doing, but when a person is in a country, in particular a regressive country, caution is well advised. A guy like Kim likely has brutal thugs from his elbow to the lowest jailer, so an insult to dear leader, like taking his image, can spin out of control, like it did.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)AnnieBW
(10,422 posts)Their precious snowflake son went to North Fucking Korea of his own choice, for shits and giggles. He gave money to them that supports the North Korean dictatorship. He wasn't even going for humanitarian reasons, just to see the sights. Of course he didn't deserve what he got. But, where were these parents when their son told them that he wanted to travel to North Korea?
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asia/north-korea-visit-is-it-wrong-otto-warmbier-kim-jong-un-tourism-a7798201.html
Damn, you're cold. So proud of it you posted it twice.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)In the other thread, or yours here.
Otto was an adult, went into NK for "fun," a country we are still legally at war with, and his money given to probably the worst regime in hundreds and hundreds of years. He did something sketchy, he was used in a show trial, and then probably tried to kill himself. That si the tragedy, because they do not mistreat westerners, and he would have been held in a decent place, even probably the hotel he was staying at, and released within a few years. If he hadn't of went into a coma, Obama and Bill Richardson, with Sweden's help, probably would have been able to bring him home.
His parents praised Trump, attacked Obama, and lied about what had been done to their son, and refused an autopsy.
Their son's death is a tragedy, but he had ownership in his death, and his parents kinda suck.
Have you seen what his father said about his son after he came back in a coma in a PVS? It is pretty disgusting. He didn everything but call Otto a thing.
ornotna
(10,798 posts)How about a little compassion for the loss of their son. We always say we're better than "them", yet sometimes we fail miserably showing it. But by all means, keep on keeping on.
Mabel
(79 posts)What did they truly expect out of Trump, that he would be their defender, that he would right an evil wrong? I guess the truth can be ugly at times.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)fuckingtrump.