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Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 09:57 PM Mar 2019

Democrating Wrong-Omar and Warren and Priorities

There are a few here so obtuse to completely miss the point of my post that I had to respond to what was said about ME.

First off-Many you ARE Democrating wrong. If you have more knowledge about Omar than Senator Warren's needed and bold proposal to break up big tech, what are you doing here? Omar is one of 535 with an opinion. That's it. Liz could be in a position to change the world. Priorities.

Second-I disagree passionately with what she said. I don't hate her. Some can't separate the two. See Democrating wrong.

Third-I was physically threatened (probably not alone in that) for canvassing for Obama. Don't EVER say I don't love that man. But part of why I took that risk is because of what I know comes next-respect for her opinions. Not agreement, but respect. He won't ask me to vilify her and that is a big reason we love him. See Democrating correctly.

Fourth-this is forest for trees stuff. Our foreign policy has been an abject disaster since the 50's. No one President can sandblast this political rot off of the Pentagon. Obama didn't. Maybe he should have tried harder. Her point if not the target of her ire, stands validly.

Fifth as of right now, thanks to hyperbolic and predictable responses to molehills like this, we are on track to LOSE. Badly. We have to understand the difference between consequential leaders who stir pots and rookies who don't even know where the spoon is. There is no reason to be this upset over one person speaking her mind. When you do get this upset, what happens is our opponents get stronger, figure we are easy pickings, and keep our turnout down. Seen this movie before.

You still don't get it. She is going to say what she wants to say. You don't have to like it. Be done with her if that is your choice. Criticize and yell and have a big ol' hissy if that is your pleasure. But don't expect to win. This universe has a way of giving back the energy you put out. See Democrating correctly-see what Elizabeth Warren has to say about oligarchy and too big to fail and the need for fairness. Think about what is really important, because an opinion about Barack is as weighty as a loose feather. It is all emotion. No substance. Stay focused. Brush it off. Move forward:

The way Barack Obama would want it.

Don't like what I say? Guess what you don't have to listen now do ya? But at some point we have to stop hating those we disagree with.

Or maybe we are not as immune to sophistry as we like to think?

Good thoughts to all-whether they are appreciated or not.

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Democrating Wrong-Omar and Warren and Priorities (Original Post) Stare Decisis Mar 2019 OP
Why is it that you're allowed to express the opinion that you disagree with her kcr Mar 2019 #1
How did Senator warren get shoehorned into this conversation? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #2
I was wondering the same thing kcr Mar 2019 #3
Because we don't have time to waste on this. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #5
But Ms. Omar derailed the conversation DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #6
A hundred percent. Stare Decisis Mar 2019 #7
Omar's comments are the megaphone kcr Mar 2019 #8
Shouldn't this be in the primary forum??? marble falls Mar 2019 #4
Seems more appropriate for the Hectoring While Drunk forum. OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #9
+1 BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #10
It's a derivation of Whiging. As in "Whighing Out". OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #11

kcr

(15,399 posts)
1. Why is it that you're allowed to express the opinion that you disagree with her
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:01 PM
Mar 2019

and that is somehow "democrating right" But others doing so are not doing it to your expectations. I guess democrating is a know it when you see it kind of thing.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,812 posts)
2. How did Senator warren get shoehorned into this conversation?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:04 PM
Mar 2019

What does wanting to break up big tech have to do with anti-semitic tropes and suggesting President Obama was an empty suit?

 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
5. Because we don't have time to waste on this.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:13 PM
Mar 2019

You support Warren. Focus on that. She is a long shot to win but might be who we need most. You argue with me or Omar, what did that do to help a more important project?

THAT is the point. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. There is a juxtaposition of Warren and Omar and the amount of political oxygen people chose to use today.

Guess what? It wasn't in Warren's favor.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,812 posts)
6. But Ms. Omar derailed the conversation
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:16 PM
Mar 2019

Everything was going swimmingly and boom Ms. Omar is all people are talking about. If I was Senator Warren I would be disappointed Ms. Omar is attracting the gaze of the media and not her.

 

Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
7. A hundred percent.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:20 PM
Mar 2019

No doubt. Complete agreement. But why should we give it a megaphone? A spotlight? Minimize it, sweep it away, move on. Dwelling on it won't help. We can't get tied up over every shiny object a media working against us wants to toss in our gaze. We will never stay focused to beat these bastards unless we have an ignore button somewhere.

kcr

(15,399 posts)
8. Omar's comments are the megaphone
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:43 PM
Mar 2019

And the GOP are never going to let those go. Obama bashing is gold. Silencing her critics isn't going to make that go away.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
9. Seems more appropriate for the Hectoring While Drunk forum.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:35 PM
Mar 2019

Or, rather, that we need a Hectoring While Drunk forum.

BannonsLiver

(16,913 posts)
10. +1
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:41 PM
Mar 2019

I’m glad I’m not the only one who found it to be completely bananas.

And “Democrating?”....what the fuck does that even mean?

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
11. It's a derivation of Whiging. As in "Whighing Out".
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:58 PM
Mar 2019

Or Communismcating, a radical form of Socialisting. I do all of them frequently.

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