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Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:09 PM

Mueller report: Not so fast

Here's a tweet storm from Seth Abramson that explains things pretty clearly: the media is getting the whole thing wrong.


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(THREAD) BREAKING NEWS: Mueller has sent a report to DOJ that DOJ is representing is "comprehensive" and will shortly be publicly summarized. A lot of the reporting surrounding this major event is *wrong*—so I'll try to report things accurately. I hope you'll read on and retweet.

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Reply Mueller report: Not so fast (Original post)
mcar Mar 2019 OP
True Blue American Mar 2019 #1
mcar Mar 2019 #2
DonViejo Mar 2019 #4
mcar Mar 2019 #7
Stellar Mar 2019 #21
EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #22
calimary Mar 2019 #31
iluvtennis Mar 2019 #34
Prof.Higgins Mar 2019 #50
calimary Mar 2019 #63
AJT Mar 2019 #45
Andy823 Mar 2019 #5
DonViejo Mar 2019 #3
ananda Mar 2019 #6
mcar Mar 2019 #8
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #9
Rainbow Droid Mar 2019 #46
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #48
SlogginThroughIt Mar 2019 #57
nini Mar 2019 #10
toddwv Mar 2019 #11
sheshe2 Mar 2019 #12
mcar Mar 2019 #17
Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #39
mcar Mar 2019 #40
dem4decades Mar 2019 #13
FakeNoose Mar 2019 #14
gordianot Mar 2019 #15
Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #28
gordianot Mar 2019 #35
LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #52
keepFocused06 Mar 2019 #16
orangecrush Mar 2019 #33
triron Mar 2019 #55
Vinnie From Indy Mar 2019 #61
onenote Mar 2019 #18
Cartaphelius Mar 2019 #43
japple Mar 2019 #19
dawg day Mar 2019 #20
yaesu Mar 2019 #23
PatSeg Mar 2019 #49
Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #24
ancianita Mar 2019 #25
Cha Mar 2019 #26
Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #27
mcar Mar 2019 #41
Xipe Totec Mar 2019 #29
better Mar 2019 #53
samnsara Mar 2019 #30
Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #32
mcar Mar 2019 #42
Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #44
Duppers Mar 2019 #47
Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #59
malaise Mar 2019 #36
SallyHemmings Mar 2019 #37
KPN Mar 2019 #51
videohead5 Mar 2019 #38
triron Mar 2019 #56
theboss Mar 2019 #58
UTUSN Mar 2019 #54
Jamaal510 Mar 2019 #60
lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #62

Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:13 PM

1. Thanks

This is exactly what I ws thinking. Trump took all his Attorneys with him to Mar alego today

Why would he need all of them if he was in the clear?


Also they are saying evidence will not be revealed and other reports are coming.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:14 PM

2. Good point

Media is making me crazy with all the "Trump is vindicated" crap.

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Response to mcar (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:16 PM

4. MSNBC is having some very good conversations right now.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:22 PM

7. As is PBS

I turned off CNN. They were basically saying Dotard will win reelection and the Ds need to stop their investigations.

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Response to mcar (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:58 PM

21. That's what I'm having a hard time understanding...

If Trumps base is reportedly so small, how can Trump get re-elected?

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Response to Stellar (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:07 PM

22. GOP election theft

Which is why us fighting gerrymandering and voter suppression is so important.

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Response to EndGOPPropaganda (Reply #22)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:21 PM

31. And a lot of people on our side stayed home. Or defected

because they somehow, inexplicably, couldn’t find it in their hearts or minds to vote for Hillary. Even if they voted for President Obama twice. So they decided to take a chance on trump (???????). I will NEVER be able to find it in MY heart or mind to forgive those people. Or they stayed home because they were loyal to Bernie. Or they voted for Fucking Jill Fucking Stein. I will NEVER forgive that. Not EVER.

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Response to calimary (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:36 PM

34. +++ agree. Well said

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Response to calimary (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:52 PM

50. Spot on!! Trump gifted E.C. win by a few thousand adolescent sulkers. n/t

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Response to Prof.Higgins (Reply #50)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 11:13 AM

63. Yep. Sad but true, I strongly suspect.

The Pout Voter.

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Response to Stellar (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:15 PM

45. The economy

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:17 PM

5. Why would he need

Any lawyers if he was innocent of all the accusations?

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:14 PM

3. K & R

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:17 PM

6. This makes me feel a lot better!!!

Thanks

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Response to ananda (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:22 PM

8. Me too

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:24 PM

9. Good tweet thread


... though tweet threads are inherently bogus as a medium. Stuff like that should be written on a page and posted at a site.

However, we are stuck with Twitter in this interim period of adjustment to developing technology. It is still early days in the internet.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:30 PM

46. And posted on a site was 'inherently bogus' at one point when 'everything important is in the paper'

Silly then and still silly.

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Response to Rainbow Droid (Reply #46)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:33 PM

48. Rethink my post and your reply, perhaps. It's not about the technology that is bogus.


Having to break up a reasoned argument or well-written essay into chunks that size is bogus regardless of the medium. If the chunks were printed on strips of paper and handed to you one by one, it would be no more and no less bogus.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #48)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:23 PM

57. Unfortunately that is where the audience is

 

Cery very few people still go directly to a site to check for news. it boggles my mind as someone trying to make a name in “news gathering” But I have talked with a few advisors and they agree for certain types of entities it makes sense toleverage social media as your main outlet.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:28 PM

10. I just that on twitter.

I may actually sleep better tonight.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:28 PM

11. Don't know what the report includes.

It may very well include a long list of items for which the Special Counsel believes the President should be impeached on.

If there is strong evidence of criminality, then Mueller may go straight for the head of the snake.

Either way, we can expect Mueller and his team to be invited to Capitol Hill in an effort to make sure that Barr isn't doing the cover job that everyone expected him to do when he was appointed by Trump.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:30 PM

12. Thank you mcar.

It ain't over until it is over,

Great tweet thread!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:47 PM

17. That's right

Pundit on PBS said the Mueller investigation was a fact finding mission. Just the beginning.

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Response to mcar (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:56 PM

39. "snowstorm of legal hurt"


27/ And "new indictments" in *any* of those spheres may not be prosecuted by Mueller himself—but they will be the product of his work and the fact that his investigation has unleashed a snowstorm of legal hurt upon Donald Trump the likes of which no president has previously seen.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #39)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:03 PM

40. ...

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:34 PM

13. I like Seth but i don't know if he is right. I hope so.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:39 PM

14. Thanks goodness for Seth Abramson!

Seth tells us what's really happening because the media (in their haste) can never get it right.





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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:46 PM

15. I do not trust any Republican past or present.

The entire modern Republican Party is conflicted.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:17 PM

28. Not Mueller, I trust him with my life.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:37 PM

35. I trust none of them possibly including Mueller.

I have a faint hope I am wrong, and I am not sure if Mueller still calls himself a Republican.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:24 PM

52. This

As a Republican he may (think he has to) weigh the National security if he actually makes a case against more than a few red shirts to fall on their swords.

That as a Republican he will not be able to stomach going down as the architect of the modern day Republican party, if he goes for the throat. Cuts off the head of the snake. As well he could use the excuse that he has to stem any violence that may erupt, ironically started by the very diehards that still would support Trump even if he were a convicted criminal. Go figure


There may even be a few of the more conservative Democrats that don't want that kind of instability it would cause if Trump and half the Senate could be up for criminal prosecution.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:46 PM

16. Don't think so

 


Barr is going to release the major findings this weekend. Mueller recommended no more indictments. I swear given all of his behavior I don't understand how it's possible that he didn't collude. It just doesn't make sense. The worst part is that Fox news and trump will go on a victory lap and his approval rating will rise above 50%. Unless their is a recession this asshole might get re-elected.

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Response to keepFocused06 (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:35 PM

33. Interesting post.



Very subtle.

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Response to keepFocused06 (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:18 PM

55. Chuck Rosenberg said on Rachel that there may likely still be related indictments, just not from

Mueller. There are still ongoing investigations. I also do not trust Barr and what is coming from
DOJ. The timing of this stinks to me.

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Response to keepFocused06 (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 06:50 AM

61. LOL

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:47 PM

18. You know who isn't infallible? Seth Abramson

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Response to onenote (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:10 PM

43. I'm sure Jared has an App for that....

 

This is the DU member formerly known as Cartaphelius.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:53 PM

19. Is it too early to hit the bourbon bottle? I will be judicious

though and save enough for a real celebration later on.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 05:56 PM

20. Aren't there sealed indictments?

I have to say, I want SDNY to go over the little prick, I mean prince-- Kushner.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:09 PM

23. Well, as far as the expert on ABC thinks no indictments means no indictments when asked about sealed

indictments. I'm sure that is only Federal as state indictments are a whole different ballgame.

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Response to yaesu (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:45 PM

49. Yeah

That appears to be referring only to Federal indictments at this time. Other investigations (state or congress) could lead to other indictments.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:10 PM

24. Sometimes things are what they seem to be. No indictments of the Prez's family...

or inner circle for working w/the Russians.

It's possible Report finds Trump likely obstructed evidence, but is of the opinion he can't be indicted for that.

He dumped it late Friday. They usually do that, when they want to bury a story, or don't want others to have time to take any action. OTOH, Mueller has filed indictments on Friday afternoons before.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:14 PM

25. His tweets are brilliantly informative. Thank you for this post.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:15 PM

26. Mahalo, mcar!

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:16 PM

27. Thanks, I dont know why the MEDIA is making such a ridiculous observation but I do know

why the KGB operatives sent to message boards and Twitter are lying about it.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #27)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:04 PM

41. Yep

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:20 PM

29. Muller's diagnosis: Stage IV cancer in the White House

With VD, and athlete's foot of the bone spurs.

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #29)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:19 PM

53. +1000 interwebz for you!

Athlete's foot of the bone spurs...

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:20 PM

30. are any of the stations reporting anything different? because...

..I've never seen this episode of Wagon Train before....

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:05 PM

42. Thanks for this!

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Response to mcar (Reply #42)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:10 PM

44. thanks for the Abramson thread!

There was a time when I could only see "link to tweet" and the links folks posted to threadreaderapp was the only way I could see what people were talking about. Might be some others having trouble with twitter, still.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:31 PM

47. Thank you!

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Response to Duppers (Reply #47)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:47 PM

59. welcome!

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:40 PM

36. I turned them off

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Response to malaise (Reply #36)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:50 PM

37. March Madness may prevent Mueller Madness

Your brackets may keep you sane until we get more information.

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Response to SallyHemmings (Reply #37)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:16 PM

51. THIS

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:52 PM

38. Don Jr and Kushner

May have already been indicted and they are under seal.

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Response to videohead5 (Reply #38)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:19 PM

56. Hope you are right.

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Response to videohead5 (Reply #38)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:25 PM

58. They are not

 

Sorry

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 10:09 PM

54. K&R

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:12 PM

60. K&R

This is the DU member formerly known as Jamaal510.

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Response to mcar (Original post)

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 07:00 AM

62. MUST READ: This is legal stuff and ignore the TV, kids.

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