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mcar

(42,300 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:09 PM Mar 2019

Mueller report: Not so fast

Here's a tweet storm from Seth Abramson that explains things pretty clearly: the media is getting the whole thing wrong.


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(THREAD) BREAKING NEWS: Mueller has sent a report to DOJ that DOJ is representing is "comprehensive" and will shortly be publicly summarized. A lot of the reporting surrounding this major event is *wrong*—so I'll try to report things accurately. I hope you'll read on and retweet.
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Mueller report: Not so fast (Original Post) mcar Mar 2019 OP
Thanks True Blue American Mar 2019 #1
Good point mcar Mar 2019 #2
MSNBC is having some very good conversations right now. DonViejo Mar 2019 #4
As is PBS mcar Mar 2019 #7
That's what I'm having a hard time understanding... Stellar Mar 2019 #21
GOP election theft EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #22
And a lot of people on our side stayed home. Or defected calimary Mar 2019 #31
+++ agree. Well said iluvtennis Mar 2019 #34
Spot on!! Trump gifted E.C. win by a few thousand adolescent sulkers. n/t Prof.Higgins Mar 2019 #50
Yep. Sad but true, I strongly suspect. calimary Mar 2019 #63
The economy AJT Mar 2019 #45
Why would he need Andy823 Mar 2019 #5
K & R DonViejo Mar 2019 #3
This makes me feel a lot better!!! ananda Mar 2019 #6
Me too mcar Mar 2019 #8
Good tweet thread Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #9
And posted on a site was 'inherently bogus' at one point when 'everything important is in the paper' Rainbow Droid Mar 2019 #46
Rethink my post and your reply, perhaps. It's not about the technology that is bogus. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #48
Unfortunately that is where the audience is SlogginThroughIt Mar 2019 #57
I just that on twitter. nini Mar 2019 #10
Don't know what the report includes. toddwv Mar 2019 #11
Thank you mcar. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #12
That's right mcar Mar 2019 #17
"snowstorm of legal hurt" Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #39
... mcar Mar 2019 #40
I like Seth but i don't know if he is right. I hope so. dem4decades Mar 2019 #13
Thanks goodness for Seth Abramson! FakeNoose Mar 2019 #14
I do not trust any Republican past or present. gordianot Mar 2019 #15
Not Mueller, I trust him with my life. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #28
I trust none of them possibly including Mueller. gordianot Mar 2019 #35
This LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #52
Don't think so keepFocused06 Mar 2019 #16
Interesting post. orangecrush Mar 2019 #33
Chuck Rosenberg said on Rachel that there may likely still be related indictments, just not from triron Mar 2019 #55
LOL Vinnie From Indy Mar 2019 #61
You know who isn't infallible? Seth Abramson onenote Mar 2019 #18
I'm sure Jared has an App for that.... Cartaphelius Mar 2019 #43
Is it too early to hit the bourbon bottle? I will be judicious japple Mar 2019 #19
Aren't there sealed indictments? dawg day Mar 2019 #20
Well, as far as the expert on ABC thinks no indictments means no indictments when asked about sealed yaesu Mar 2019 #23
Yeah PatSeg Mar 2019 #49
Sometimes things are what they seem to be. No indictments of the Prez's family... Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #24
His tweets are brilliantly informative. Thank you for this post. ancianita Mar 2019 #25
Mahalo, mcar! Cha Mar 2019 #26
Thanks, I dont know why the MEDIA is making such a ridiculous observation but I do know Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #27
Yep mcar Mar 2019 #41
Muller's diagnosis: Stage IV cancer in the White House Xipe Totec Mar 2019 #29
+1000 interwebz for you! better Mar 2019 #53
are any of the stations reporting anything different? because... samnsara Mar 2019 #30
link threadreaderapp.com Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #32
Thanks for this! mcar Mar 2019 #42
thanks for the Abramson thread! Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #44
Thank you! Duppers Mar 2019 #47
welcome! Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2019 #59
I turned them off malaise Mar 2019 #36
March Madness may prevent Mueller Madness SallyHemmings Mar 2019 #37
THIS KPN Mar 2019 #51
Don Jr and Kushner videohead5 Mar 2019 #38
Hope you are right. triron Mar 2019 #56
They are not theboss Mar 2019 #58
K&R UTUSN Mar 2019 #54
K&R Jamaal510 Mar 2019 #60
MUST READ: This is legal stuff and ignore the TV, kids. lindysalsagal Mar 2019 #62

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
1. Thanks
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:13 PM
Mar 2019

This is exactly what I ws thinking. Trump took all his Attorneys with him to Mar alego today

Why would he need all of them if he was in the clear?


Also they are saying evidence will not be revealed and other reports are coming.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
7. As is PBS
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:22 PM
Mar 2019

I turned off CNN. They were basically saying Dotard will win reelection and the Ds need to stop their investigations.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
21. That's what I'm having a hard time understanding...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:58 PM
Mar 2019

If Trumps base is reportedly so small, how can Trump get re-elected?

calimary

(81,209 posts)
31. And a lot of people on our side stayed home. Or defected
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:21 PM
Mar 2019

because they somehow, inexplicably, couldn’t find it in their hearts or minds to vote for Hillary. Even if they voted for President Obama twice. So they decided to take a chance on trump (???????). I will NEVER be able to find it in MY heart or mind to forgive those people. Or they stayed home because they were loyal to Bernie. Or they voted for Fucking Jill Fucking Stein. I will NEVER forgive that. Not EVER.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
9. Good tweet thread
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:24 PM
Mar 2019

... though tweet threads are inherently bogus as a medium. Stuff like that should be written on a page and posted at a site.

However, we are stuck with Twitter in this interim period of adjustment to developing technology. It is still early days in the internet.

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
46. And posted on a site was 'inherently bogus' at one point when 'everything important is in the paper'
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:30 PM
Mar 2019

Silly then and still silly.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
48. Rethink my post and your reply, perhaps. It's not about the technology that is bogus.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:33 PM
Mar 2019

Having to break up a reasoned argument or well-written essay into chunks that size is bogus regardless of the medium. If the chunks were printed on strips of paper and handed to you one by one, it would be no more and no less bogus.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
57. Unfortunately that is where the audience is
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:23 PM
Mar 2019

Cery very few people still go directly to a site to check for news. it boggles my mind as someone trying to make a name in “news gathering” But I have talked with a few advisors and they agree for certain types of entities it makes sense toleverage social media as your main outlet.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
11. Don't know what the report includes.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:28 PM
Mar 2019

It may very well include a long list of items for which the Special Counsel believes the President should be impeached on.

If there is strong evidence of criminality, then Mueller may go straight for the head of the snake.

Either way, we can expect Mueller and his team to be invited to Capitol Hill in an effort to make sure that Barr isn't doing the cover job that everyone expected him to do when he was appointed by Trump.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
17. That's right
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:47 PM
Mar 2019

Pundit on PBS said the Mueller investigation was a fact finding mission. Just the beginning.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,320 posts)
39. "snowstorm of legal hurt"
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:56 PM
Mar 2019

27/ And "new indictments" in *any* of those spheres may not be prosecuted by Mueller himself—but they will be the product of his work and the fact that his investigation has unleashed a snowstorm of legal hurt upon Donald Trump the likes of which no president has previously seen.

FakeNoose

(32,626 posts)
14. Thanks goodness for Seth Abramson!
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:39 PM
Mar 2019

Seth tells us what's really happening because the media (in their haste) can never get it right.





gordianot

(15,237 posts)
35. I trust none of them possibly including Mueller.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:37 PM
Mar 2019

I have a faint hope I am wrong, and I am not sure if Mueller still calls himself a Republican.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
52. This
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:24 PM
Mar 2019

As a Republican he may (think he has to) weigh the National security if he actually makes a case against more than a few red shirts to fall on their swords.

That as a Republican he will not be able to stomach going down as the architect of the modern day Republican party, if he goes for the throat. Cuts off the head of the snake. As well he could use the excuse that he has to stem any violence that may erupt, ironically started by the very diehards that still would support Trump even if he were a convicted criminal. Go figure


There may even be a few of the more conservative Democrats that don't want that kind of instability it would cause if Trump and half the Senate could be up for criminal prosecution.

 

keepFocused06

(28 posts)
16. Don't think so
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:46 PM
Mar 2019

Barr is going to release the major findings this weekend. Mueller recommended no more indictments. I swear given all of his behavior I don't understand how it's possible that he didn't collude. It just doesn't make sense. The worst part is that Fox news and trump will go on a victory lap and his approval rating will rise above 50%. Unless their is a recession this asshole might get re-elected.

triron

(21,995 posts)
55. Chuck Rosenberg said on Rachel that there may likely still be related indictments, just not from
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:18 PM
Mar 2019

Mueller. There are still ongoing investigations. I also do not trust Barr and what is coming from
DOJ. The timing of this stinks to me.

japple

(9,819 posts)
19. Is it too early to hit the bourbon bottle? I will be judicious
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:53 PM
Mar 2019

though and save enough for a real celebration later on.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
20. Aren't there sealed indictments?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 06:56 PM
Mar 2019

I have to say, I want SDNY to go over the little prick, I mean prince-- Kushner.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
23. Well, as far as the expert on ABC thinks no indictments means no indictments when asked about sealed
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:09 PM
Mar 2019

indictments. I'm sure that is only Federal as state indictments are a whole different ballgame.

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
49. Yeah
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:45 PM
Mar 2019

That appears to be referring only to Federal indictments at this time. Other investigations (state or congress) could lead to other indictments.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. Sometimes things are what they seem to be. No indictments of the Prez's family...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:10 PM
Mar 2019

or inner circle for working w/the Russians.

It's possible Report finds Trump likely obstructed evidence, but is of the opinion he can't be indicted for that.

He dumped it late Friday. They usually do that, when they want to bury a story, or don't want others to have time to take any action. OTOH, Mueller has filed indictments on Friday afternoons before.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
27. Thanks, I dont know why the MEDIA is making such a ridiculous observation but I do know
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

why the KGB operatives sent to message boards and Twitter are lying about it.

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
29. Muller's diagnosis: Stage IV cancer in the White House
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:20 PM
Mar 2019

With VD, and athlete's foot of the bone spurs.

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
30. are any of the stations reporting anything different? because...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:20 PM
Mar 2019

..I've never seen this episode of Wagon Train before....

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,320 posts)
44. thanks for the Abramson thread!
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:10 PM
Mar 2019

There was a time when I could only see "link to tweet" and the links folks posted to threadreaderapp was the only way I could see what people were talking about. Might be some others having trouble with twitter, still.

SallyHemmings

(1,821 posts)
37. March Madness may prevent Mueller Madness
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:50 PM
Mar 2019

Your brackets may keep you sane until we get more information.

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