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bits of info to share on his Twitter account tonight regarding the "report". It was very good and enlightening (for me anyway).
https://mobile.twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1109203639581712386/photo/1
If anyone can post the original tweet down thread I'd appreciate it.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Lets keep it kicked!
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)in the thread. I hope DUers are patient enough to click on the link since it is worth the read.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Im sorry I dont know how to do it either.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)Iterate
(3,020 posts)And you don't need an account to see what he says. I think this is the thread you meant.
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Seth Abramson
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1/ What this man, his family, and his aides did is criminal, harrowing, and would lead any reasonable observer to conclude that Trump, much of his family, and several of his aides are criminals who are a national security threat and need to be out of the White House immediately.
8:21 PM - 22 Mar 2019
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
2/ I have written two books on this with 4,500 citations in total. I'm sorry that people who have done less research than meand therefore know less on these topicshave a bigger voice. I can't do anything about that except present my credentials and all the evidence I have seen.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
3/ Mueller brought 199 charges. Work ongoing in 5 other jurisdictions will almost certainly produce more. Congressional and counterintelligence probes could eventually produce still more. But as to Trump, this was always a *political* questionnot a beyond-a-reasonable-doubt one.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
4/ I focused my 2 books on the collusion and conspiracy questionsbecause as to obstruction even just the evidence that we had publicly was clearly enough to convict the average American. But as the question was always what Congress would do with that evidence, I left it to them.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
5/ The question of whether Congress has sufficient evidence to impeach has also never been in doubtwhether it's on emoluments, abuse of power, obstruction, violation of an Oath of Office, or various forms of coordination with a hostile foreign power that attacked our elections.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
6/ Follow me on this, as it's critical: whether there was or is *beyond a reasonable doubt* evidence on Trump on *conspiracy* is not only *not* the question that's ever been before us, but so far from the question that only Trump and his allies have pushed it as a key issue here.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
7/ As to conspiracy allegations involving Trump, the only question was *ever* whether there was enough evidence to impeachwhich there isand it was *never* whether Bob Mueller would or even *needed* to make out a *criminal* case with a "beyond a reasonable doubt" level of proof.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
8/ Having said that, what *does* confuse people is that Mueller had ample evidence for conspiracy on Manafort and didn't proceed with it, and cut deals with Gates/Flynn to help them avoid potential conspiracy charges but then didn't indict the man they would've given up: Kushner.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
9/ Do I have an answer for why the public evidencejust *that*against Manafort didn't add up to conspiracy? No, I don'tnot as a criminal attorney, and not as an investigator. And I don't know that Mueller can explain it, either. Why do you think he interviewed him for 50 hours?
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
10/ But I've tried many criminal casesand I've no doubt I've written two books that would lead a reasonable juror to believe Manafort, Kushner, Flynn, and Gates participated in a conspiracy. Presumably, Gates and Flynn have helped Mueller so much that he decided to let them go.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
11/ What Trump supporters want to hearwhat even some in media want to hearis those of us who've researched this issue say the evidence that's there isn't there. That's won't happen. But I *would* like to know why not one fact in Proof of Collusion has been contested. By anyone.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
12/ Nor are there any facts in *Proof of Conspiracy* that don't come from major-media sourcesso I don't expect any of the facts in *that* book to be contested, either. And everyone who read Proof of Collusion calls the facts harrowing (and the facts in the sequel are far worse).
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
13/ So I'm at a loss: not because the evidence isn't there (it is, and Mueller surely has much more); not because I don't have the professional background and experience to assess the evidence (I do); not because Mueller didn't seem distressed by the same evidence I was (he did).
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
14/ I watched a lot of TV tonight, and know what my peers in the law were thinkingnot my peer Democrats; not rank partisans; not journalists with no legal/criminal-investigative background; what my *peers in the law* were thinkingthat none of this makes sense. *Professionally*.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
15/ You don't interview Cohen and Manafort for 50 hours each with no new indictments. You don't give Flynn a dealor Nader or Gateswithout new indictments coming from it. And if you think Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Nader and Gates don't point to Kushner you don't know the evidence.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
16/ I saw @AllMattNYT falsely claim on CNN tonight that hashtag "resistance" folksa group I'm not insay there's still going to be a big conspiracy indictment. I've seen no one say thatbut I *have* seen professionals say something here isn't making sense and it eventually will.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
17/ And that's my primary message tonight: if you've worked this case hard for 2 years, and if you have the necessary expertise to grok the evidence, something isn't making sense right nowbut you've also worked in the system long enough to know that it eventually (somehow) will.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
18/ The opinions of those with no legal/investigative expertisepro-Trump, anti-Trump, in media, outdon't matter now. And I mean that respectfully. So if you're a non-legal #MAGA troll writing to bark about a legal issue, I'm sorry to say that *as to that topic* I don't see you.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
19/ Meanwhile, if you're someone with legal or investigative expertise and you're on media tonight saying that what's happening now makes sense, I can say for certain you don't know *this case*. And if you have expertise *and* know this case, I'm sorryyou're bad at what you do.
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Seth Abramson
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6h6 hours ago
20/ There are folks out there who always approached this case as partisansalways dialogued through it as partisansand if #MAGA folks want to bark at those folks tonight, well, it's premature, but it's also Twitter. But if you think any *experts* are sanguine tonight... no. /end
Duppers
(28,117 posts)I'm impatient and depressed. I want justice *now*.
Hopefully the coming days and weeks will bring justice...and some understanding of this delay.
Bettie
(16,072 posts)thank you so much. It really helps.
Sleep helped too. Just need some time to process and to vent.
triron
(21,984 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)that links you to all his tweets. If I could remember where I would give you the link. As it stands I'm barely awake at this point. If you can do a search I'm sure you will find them.
Gore1FL
(21,098 posts)And here is the twitter thread:
Link to tweet
DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)but I think Abramson is also sometimes guilty of too much wishful analysis of Mueller's work.
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)
Abramson says is true, why aren't the investigators removing the President ASAP? Mueller is letting the corruption go on for what reasons?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,957 posts)There is also the mechanism of the 25th which can or does involve the cabinet. Anything else is a coup.
Mueller has to do it by the book. If anyone knows how to do something by the book and make it iron-clad, Mueller does.
Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)The public reporting and actions of multiple political figures I have seen over the past two years indicates to me that a large segment of the Republican party and possibly other organizations are also involved in this. Trump is not a one-off problem for the United States.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)tblue37
(65,227 posts)you can post the tweet rather than just the link to it.