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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Russian investigation has allowed trump to behave in ways that would have impeached any
other president.
Somehow we have come to a point that implies that if Muellers Russian influence investigation doesnt demonstrate collusion then trump is vindicated completely, he is a born again president.
My personal opinion is that the report does demonstrate collusion. That is why Barr seems to be trying to figure a way out of putting the report on public display. At least until he can manipulate it in trumps favor. Dont forget that Barr begged for this job and trump gave it to him based on Barrs expressed disbelief in the investigations necessity.
The longer Barr delays, the more likely the trump campaign did collude with the Russians. If Barr thinks he can conceal this he is mistaken. Now that the investigation has completed this phase participants will be freed to be less secretive about what went on. What was discovered by Muellers team will be exposed regardless of Barrs wish to exonerate trump.
In some regards, considering the DOJs policy of not indicting sitting presidents, (note, nothing in the constitution forbids such indictments) the fact that Mueller said no NEW indictments are forthcoming is just a procedural thing and not to be understood as definitive. Its best to let the regular criminal justice system deal with the rest of trumps existence. After all, when all considerations are in, trump is nothing more than a criminal. We have definitive solutions for criminals and I for one look forward to them being applied to trump and his enablers.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)appointment of federal judges and destroying all Govt agencies.....
when 40% of america clearly doesn't care, we have to make them for all of it in 2020 and 2022
gordianot
(15,237 posts)They are all compromised beyond redemption.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... news as a mouth piece and will always float republican numbers higher than they should be.
Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)The investigation didn't, at least not the Mueller investigation. I think that was mostly legitimate.
The Repubs in the House did their best to torpedo it. Schiff and Swallwell managed to help it survive until we flipped the House.
I agree, it is suspicious that they are delaying the delivery of the report. Sounds like it might be damaging to certain folks in the White House.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)Also Congress should start impeachment hearings immediately.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Republicans in Congress chose to look the other way while Trump and his gang undermine and try to overthrow the Constitution, the rule of law, and common decency. IMO, repukes are in on the seditious scheme.
I appreciate the OP but disagree with that nuance in the title.
lancelyons
(988 posts)Many of the GOP are compromised by Russia because they paid millions to the GOP campaigns.
The Russians hate of LGBTQ made the christian Right ok with the Soviets.
The recourse is voting him out. If we thought the 2018 was important.. nothing is more important that the 2020 elections.
cstanleytech
(26,280 posts)superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)The rs do not care.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)censured for it. I know the House has the power to censure presidents.
certainot
(9,090 posts)we need to encourage dem investigators and get their backs and demand the report and all the evidence - but protesting state capitols doesn't work anymore.
americans see the idiots on fox and can't conceive how those fools and liars can prevail or figure if their audience can't figure it out they'r ejust stupid and need to be ignored. but it's the 1500 radio stations behind fox that do the real damage. a recent article on a poll showing rw media attacks on AOC are working blames it on fox and that's the usual read by her supporters and that's dumb - limbaugh plays a major part in that and regularly calls her a commie, stalinist dunce to set the tone on 1500 radio stations and fox - as long as the left ignores that we're not getting her back.
if republicans paid $1000/hr for radio infomercials x 15 hrs a day to defund public ed, deny global warming,excusing racism, protecting trump 1200 stations would be worth about $5BIL/year FREE -each station in your community is worth $1000 x 15 hrs x 5 days = $75,000/WEEK working for trump attacking dem investigators, mueller, intimidating AG barr, polluting jury pools, and intimidating judges and GOP senators thinking about impeachment. and enabling the teabag trumpers in congress wanting more investigations of hillary ....
americans need to protest where it scares republicans. and protest the talk radio monopoly and the few hundred ignorant think tank-scripted assholes, who really intimidate republican senators on the state and local level, who might think about impeaching
protesting his stations and the universities that broadcast sports on 260 stations that headline limbaugh would scare off most of their advertisers and destroy the rw radio monopoly messaging megaphone that's been so important in this disaster the last 30 years.
here's a list of 88 universities that broadcast sports on 260 limbaugh stations - they're some of the loudest in the US - and if one or two of those unis was pushed to reread and honor their mission statements and started looking for apolitical alternatives other unis would be shamed into following. that attention will scare the crap out of the gop that depend on all that free help. that will increase media attention. advertisers on all RW stations would head for the hills.
otherwise republicans can ignore protests - how many protestors are a few hundred assholes on 1500 stations reaching 50 mil a week worth?
260 stations are worth about $1BIL- and endorsed by those universities - their logos, teams, community cred - used to attract advertisers.....
without that talk radio advantage republicans are done
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)horrible things. I was reading about his deregulation stuff. He's trying to or did disallow benefit dollars ( in cost/benefit analysis) from a regulation so in essence making the cost saved higher to add to his fake savings total. And he's not reappointing so many positions that generate new needed regulation.
It's a total scam he will bellow from state to state- how much he's saved. And if Democrats don't get their act together and really study the kind of damage he is doing by removing regulation and throwing it in his face if he is unfortunately our opponent in 2020 then we deserve to lose period