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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis is now a major scandal and Mueller may have just re-elected Trump.
Mueller failed and he is full of shit. No one conspired with the Russians? BULLSHIT.
Why did Mueller give Gates and Flynn plea deals? Why didn't he try and turn Stone?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
Sure, Mueller didn't indict Trump or his evil spawn.
If he did, it would just be for a few charges, which might interfere with other criminal cases.
By Mueller not charging them, it opens up State, Congressional and wider Federal chargings later on.
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keith sw
(45 posts)Now Trump is going to soar in the polls and there wont be a thing we can do about it
Riiighht.
Welcome to du.
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Get a grip.
Youll see.
More handwringing BS. Sorry, but I have no intention of giving up the floor to the people who sound like they want to hide under their beds.
Firestorm49
(4,032 posts)Private meetings with no staff present with Putin and Kim Jong Un, and who knows how many others. Endorsing adversaries while admonishing allies.
Far too much to be overlooked.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)The hyperbole, doom and gloom throw your hands up and quit attitude today has been a disgrace and embarrassment.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Is a 100% natural response. That you two aren't upset is hard to even fathom.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)What Im not willing to do is curl up in a fetal position and give up. Even for a moment. I wouldnt dare give them the satisfaction, but also because its no way to solve a problem. So we dust ourselves off, and continue the fight. Or not. Whatever suits you.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)and ranting and raving ..to vent it out We will all end up in the same place. So let us vent without ridicule please.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)But when posters start writing off 2020 because of this they invite and deserve ridicule. Im not saying you have done that, but there are OPs and responses within threads that do.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)'there are wonders in the universe to satiate appatites both subtle and gross. But they are NOT for the TIMID. If you're gonna run home and hide under your bed because you got a bloody nose, maybe we're right and you SHOULDN'T be out here.'
And Picard's response was, basicly:
ahh. In that case, Q, go fuck yourself. We go where we WANT.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ditto.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)It's embarrassing to see so many on my side acting like pathetic whiners. These "what's the use' posts are ridiculous.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Volaris
(10,270 posts)Because they're democrat, and justus and other stuff that we Deplorables are proud to not be able to spell correctly.
Murica.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Even get a report. Hillary should have blew off that hearing, in retrospect.
myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...how this Republican thingy works...
...truth and the American people always appear to end up on the short end of the stick...
...again, the 1% win, we lose...
...MAGA MAGA
...
keith sw
(45 posts)In America. In America money,greed and the powerful always win. It is a lifelong fable that America stands for good and opportunity.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I'm afraid I'm going to just go ahead and block you as this woe is us routine is boring and pathetic.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Certainly a winning attitude
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)And public pressure will start to grow. They are attempting to bury the report.
Scoopster
(423 posts)Mueller's full & uncensored report is mostly unseen. This is Barr's spin.
Ponietz
(2,957 posts)As if he teed the ball for him. WTF?!
Cosmocat
(14,562 posts)We don't have the first clue what the actual report says.
I can't fathom that it is not extraordinarily damning toward 45 and company.
The problem is that he is following chain of command and procedure.
Barr is a scumbag, always has been, always will be, and positioned himself, like Whitakaker did, to be able to do the dirt for 45.
Scoopster
(423 posts)The ONLY thing we've seen from this report has been a 4-page propaganda fluff piece produced by Bill Barr. Or are you some kind of insider who knows what Mueller does & thinks?
Ponietz
(2,957 posts)Are you surprised by Barrs response? If not, why would Mueller have been? Why a Friday afternoon dump? The timing of the release benefited the principle grand jury targets. Yes, the targets, themselves, may be responsible for the timing, but that seems unlikely from what we know. Please be courteous.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)Meanwhile, everyone else is back to worrying about whether he's going to ruin their access to healthcare. It's a gift for the Dems.
Yesterday we were handed two decisive talking points for the election.
1. What are the cons covering up in the report - until the entire thing becomes public, THEY'RE COVERING UP>
2. Donnie wants to take away health care from tens of millions.
The woe is us posts are getting pathetic.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Many here haven't. And those that have I'm blocking as they're not fighters and I have no interest in giving them a binky. And what's with comparing this to a grieving process? I lost my father and this is NOTHING like that. We don't even know what's in the report, not even how long the report was. And THAT needs to be the message.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)There's nothing wrong with that. It was a devastating and, for the most part, unexpected blow. But we have to move on.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)In fact, a day of it is more than okay in order to get perspective. But look at you now - you picked yourself up and are ready to fight again. THAT is what we need. Not more pathetic whining which is fucking useless.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)No idea why but I never really expected the Mueller report to be the answer to prayers.
2naSalit
(86,529 posts)very good talking points! Concise and all one needs to know, really. I'll be using them.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Democrats can't get caught up in minutiae - most people simply don't have the time. Make it quick and easy to explain. And NEVER back down from positions you know are right.
saljr1
(273 posts)that they were on the fence and since Mueller report did not find criminal collusion I am now going to vote for Trump. Ya I thought so hardly anybody. So people relax, Trump is still who he is and that won't change many minds on their opinion. So Mueller's finding did not help to get Trump re-elected.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)This weekend felt initially like a setback, but we'd all benefit from some deep breaths. It's a long game.
A "saying" I learned long ago: Be cool and steer a steady course, you are likely to become swayed from your objective within the storm.
LexVegas
(6,059 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im thinking that explains the the plethora of recent despair posts.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,712 posts)Mueller is a Republican, He was appointed by GW Bush to be FBI director. Other law enforcement people say he is a straight shooter, but then they are conservative people also.