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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:00 PM Mar 2019

This is now a major scandal and Mueller may have just re-elected Trump.

Mueller failed and he is full of shit. No one conspired with the Russians? BULLSHIT.

Why did Mueller give Gates and Flynn plea deals? Why didn't he try and turn Stone?

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This is now a major scandal and Mueller may have just re-elected Trump. (Original Post) shockey80 Mar 2019 OP
Direct collusion here: SHRED Mar 2019 #1
If Mueller indicted Trump, he would charge him with a few specific crimes--Congress can go further. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #50
I was afraid of this keith sw Mar 2019 #2
"Soar?" Tipperary Mar 2019 #3
Lol. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2019 #9
Oh please. cwydro Mar 2019 #16
Lol keith sw Mar 2019 #21
LMAO leftynyc Mar 2019 #29
Far too many unanswered questions. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #4
Of FFS go for a walk. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #5
Wow. Are you serious? How rude Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #8
I'm sorry you feel that way. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #10
He might be a bit truculent but the gnashing of teeth is unseemly. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #11
OMG you too? What the hell. Please leave us alone. This Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #12
I'm upset BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #13
No one's giving up. Its just a natural grieving process Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #14
Vent away BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #15
To paraphrase Q: Volaris Mar 2019 #17
OP deserves it. Kaleva Mar 2019 #24
What you said. cwydro Mar 2019 #18
Amen jberryhill Mar 2019 #26
Agree 100% leftynyc Mar 2019 #30
+1 Kaleva Mar 2019 #34
But Hillary kept a sloppy record keeping system! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #6
Which she, and her child, should OBVIOUSLY spend the rest of their lives in prison for, Volaris Mar 2019 #19
Ya ! We got so much more editorial content. We can't Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #20
funny... myohmy2 Mar 2019 #7
We always lose! keith sw Mar 2019 #22
Were you asleep during the 2018 midterms? leftynyc Mar 2019 #32
Nice Support For Dems Me. Mar 2019 #54
Motivated by a desire to "prove the negative"... Baconator Mar 2019 #23
It's a massive cover up and it will get worse and more obvious Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #25
No, Barr did this. Scoopster Mar 2019 #27
Yes, but Mueller, surely, anticipated Barr's response Ponietz Mar 2019 #31
He followed the policies and guidelines established for his position Cosmocat Mar 2019 #38
+1 2naSalit Mar 2019 #45
What proof do you have of that? Scoopster Mar 2019 #39
Any reasonable prosecutor would anticipate Barr's response. Ponietz Mar 2019 #42
Trump isn't smart enough to just shut up and move on. He'll beat this story to death. Vinca Mar 2019 #28
Exactly leftynyc Mar 2019 #33
I agree. We need to stop whining and start fighting again. Vinca Mar 2019 #35
I haven't whined at all leftynyc Mar 2019 #36
I've whined and I've curled in a fetal position under my binky for a day. Vinca Mar 2019 #37
One day I get leftynyc Mar 2019 #40
I went right to anger leftynyc Mar 2019 #41
Those are 2naSalit Mar 2019 #46
I'm glad to help leftynyc Mar 2019 #49
As I wrote the other day on this thread, How many American people are saying to themselves saljr1 Mar 2019 #43
lol -- it's way too early to even know what the hell Mueller has done, let alone cede re-election fishwax Mar 2019 #44
+1 2naSalit Mar 2019 #48
How many of your predictions turned out to be wrong? I am fairly sure you don't know what's going on LexVegas Mar 2019 #47
Most of them turned out to be wrong. cwydro Mar 2019 #52
Please please do not do this! secondwind Mar 2019 #51
The Justice Dept, police agencies etc are historically conservative by their very nature. LiberalArkie Mar 2019 #53

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
50. If Mueller indicted Trump, he would charge him with a few specific crimes--Congress can go further.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:13 AM
Mar 2019

.

Sure, Mueller didn't indict Trump or his evil spawn.

If he did, it would just be for a few charges, which might interfere with other criminal cases.


By Mueller not charging them, it opens up State, Congressional and wider Federal chargings later on.

.

 

keith sw

(45 posts)
2. I was afraid of this
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:03 PM
Mar 2019

Now Trump is going to soar in the polls and there won’t be a thing we can do about it

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
29. LMAO
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:09 AM
Mar 2019

More handwringing BS. Sorry, but I have no intention of giving up the floor to the people who sound like they want to hide under their beds.

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
4. Far too many unanswered questions.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:04 PM
Mar 2019

Private meetings with no staff present with Putin and Kim Jong Un, and who knows how many others. Endorsing adversaries while admonishing allies.

Far too much to be overlooked.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
5. Of FFS go for a walk.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:06 PM
Mar 2019

The hyperbole, doom and gloom throw your hands up and quit attitude today has been a disgrace and embarrassment.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. OMG you too? What the hell. Please leave us alone. This
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:16 PM
Mar 2019

Is a 100% natural response. That you two aren't upset is hard to even fathom.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
13. I'm upset
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:49 PM
Mar 2019

What I’m not willing to do is curl up in a fetal position and give up. Even for a moment. I wouldn’t dare give them the satisfaction, but also because it’s no way to solve a problem. So we dust ourselves off, and continue the fight. Or not. Whatever suits you.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. No one's giving up. Its just a natural grieving process
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019

and ranting and raving ..to vent it out We will all end up in the same place. So let us vent without ridicule please.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
15. Vent away
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 06:11 PM
Mar 2019

But when posters start writing off 2020 because of this they invite and deserve ridicule. I’m not saying you have done that, but there are OPs and responses within threads that do.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
17. To paraphrase Q:
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:05 PM
Mar 2019

'there are wonders in the universe to satiate appatites both subtle and gross. But they are NOT for the TIMID. If you're gonna run home and hide under your bed because you got a bloody nose, maybe we're right and you SHOULDN'T be out here.'

And Picard's response was, basicly:

ahh. In that case, Q, go fuck yourself. We go where we WANT.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
30. Agree 100%
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:10 AM
Mar 2019

It's embarrassing to see so many on my side acting like pathetic whiners. These "what's the use' posts are ridiculous.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
19. Which she, and her child, should OBVIOUSLY spend the rest of their lives in prison for,
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:30 PM
Mar 2019

Because they're democrat, and justus and other stuff that we Deplorables are proud to not be able to spell correctly.

Murica.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Ya ! We got so much more editorial content. We can't
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:27 PM
Mar 2019

Even get a report. Hillary should have blew off that hearing, in retrospect.

myohmy2

(3,162 posts)
7. funny...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 05:11 PM
Mar 2019

...how this Republican thingy works...

...truth and the American people always appear to end up on the short end of the stick...

...again, the 1% win, we lose...

...MAGA MAGA…

...

 

keith sw

(45 posts)
22. We always lose!
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:38 AM
Mar 2019

In America. In America money,greed and the powerful always win. It is a lifelong fable that America stands for good and opportunity.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
32. Were you asleep during the 2018 midterms?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:12 AM
Mar 2019

I'm afraid I'm going to just go ahead and block you as this woe is us routine is boring and pathetic.

 

Mr Tibbs

(539 posts)
25. It's a massive cover up and it will get worse and more obvious
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:02 AM
Mar 2019

And public pressure will start to grow. They are attempting to bury the report.

Cosmocat

(14,562 posts)
38. He followed the policies and guidelines established for his position
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:23 AM
Mar 2019

We don't have the first clue what the actual report says.

I can't fathom that it is not extraordinarily damning toward 45 and company.

The problem is that he is following chain of command and procedure.

Barr is a scumbag, always has been, always will be, and positioned himself, like Whitakaker did, to be able to do the dirt for 45.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
39. What proof do you have of that?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:24 AM
Mar 2019

The ONLY thing we've seen from this report has been a 4-page propaganda fluff piece produced by Bill Barr. Or are you some kind of insider who knows what Mueller does & thinks?

Ponietz

(2,957 posts)
42. Any reasonable prosecutor would anticipate Barr's response.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:42 AM
Mar 2019

Are you surprised by Barr’s response? If not, why would Mueller have been? Why a Friday afternoon dump? The timing of the release benefited the principle grand jury targets. Yes, the targets, themselves, may be responsible for the timing, but that seems unlikely from what we know. Please be courteous.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
28. Trump isn't smart enough to just shut up and move on. He'll beat this story to death.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:06 AM
Mar 2019

Meanwhile, everyone else is back to worrying about whether he's going to ruin their access to healthcare. It's a gift for the Dems.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
33. Exactly
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:14 AM
Mar 2019

Yesterday we were handed two decisive talking points for the election.

1. What are the cons covering up in the report - until the entire thing becomes public, THEY'RE COVERING UP>
2. Donnie wants to take away health care from tens of millions.

The woe is us posts are getting pathetic.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
36. I haven't whined at all
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:19 AM
Mar 2019

Many here haven't. And those that have I'm blocking as they're not fighters and I have no interest in giving them a binky. And what's with comparing this to a grieving process? I lost my father and this is NOTHING like that. We don't even know what's in the report, not even how long the report was. And THAT needs to be the message.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
37. I've whined and I've curled in a fetal position under my binky for a day.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:21 AM
Mar 2019

There's nothing wrong with that. It was a devastating and, for the most part, unexpected blow. But we have to move on.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. One day I get
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:35 AM
Mar 2019

In fact, a day of it is more than okay in order to get perspective. But look at you now - you picked yourself up and are ready to fight again. THAT is what we need. Not more pathetic whining which is fucking useless.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
41. I went right to anger
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:35 AM
Mar 2019

No idea why but I never really expected the Mueller report to be the answer to prayers.

2naSalit

(86,529 posts)
46. Those are
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:57 AM
Mar 2019

very good talking points! Concise and all one needs to know, really. I'll be using them.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
49. I'm glad to help
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:12 AM
Mar 2019

Democrats can't get caught up in minutiae - most people simply don't have the time. Make it quick and easy to explain. And NEVER back down from positions you know are right.

saljr1

(273 posts)
43. As I wrote the other day on this thread, How many American people are saying to themselves
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:53 AM
Mar 2019

that they were on the fence and since Mueller report did not find criminal collusion I am now going to vote for Trump. Ya I thought so hardly anybody. So people relax, Trump is still who he is and that won't change many minds on their opinion. So Mueller's finding did not help to get Trump re-elected.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
44. lol -- it's way too early to even know what the hell Mueller has done, let alone cede re-election
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:12 AM
Mar 2019

This weekend felt initially like a setback, but we'd all benefit from some deep breaths. It's a long game.

2naSalit

(86,529 posts)
48. +1
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:01 AM
Mar 2019

A "saying" I learned long ago: Be cool and steer a steady course, you are likely to become swayed from your objective within the storm.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
52. Most of them turned out to be wrong.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:15 AM
Mar 2019

I’m thinking that explains the the plethora of recent despair posts.

LiberalArkie

(15,712 posts)
53. The Justice Dept, police agencies etc are historically conservative by their very nature.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 10:18 AM
Mar 2019

Mueller is a Republican, He was appointed by GW Bush to be FBI director. Other law enforcement people say he is a straight shooter, but then they are conservative people also.

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