Folks, it's over. All of it. Over. Trump will not be indicted or impeached.

[Yavin4]

The Dems will have to defeat him at the polls in 2020. That's the only way to get rid of him. Sure, the Dems will continue to investigate, and it may lead to more questions, but in the end, Trump will remain president until the 2020 election.

The sooner that we focus on 2020, the better.

[uponit7771]

1. Unnnn, waiting on full report to be released

[Yavin4]

7. Wait all you want.

Won't change a damn thing.

[uponit7771]

8. Not releasing the report could turn into trunk snakes and tape that's about

[FBaggins]

17. There isn't any reason to think they won't release the report

We’re going to be left sniping over which redactions might be hiding something important

[customerserviceguy]

23. Quite true

Most of the redactions will involve grand jury matters that are protected by law.

The "wait for the full report" people remind me of one of the definitions of an optomist: A kid, waking up on Christmas morning, seeing a giant pile of horse manure on the front lawn, starts digging through it, thinking, "There must be a pony in here somewhere!"

[Socal31]

2. Time to accept it

Time to rally to the voting booth in 2020. I've got Kamala.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Yes, let's not rain on his vindication parade now

Pass.

Move on from this without a fight and we’re much worse off in 2020.

[Dennis Donovan]

4. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[RHMerriman]

6. Wins the thread...

The only thing that would have made the speech perfect would have been if he'd said "when the Krauts bombed Pearl Harbor..."

[Initech]

32. Forget it, he's rolling!

[bearsfootball516]

5. Neither was ever going to happen

Mueller doesn’t believe in indicting sitting presidents, and there’s was no chance he’d be removed because there would never be enough Republicans in the senate to flip, no matter how damaging the evidence.

Been planning on taking him down in 2020 since January 20th, 2017.

[Tipperary]

30. I know, that is what surprises me - that people here actually thought either could happen.

I never could understand how anyone could have believed that, but I guess if they did, that explains the desperate disappointment evident today.

[hlthe2b]

9. stop it

Get a grip and realize the truth is that this is NOT over.

[BigmanPigman]

11. This is the beginning of the end...

Listen to our Dem reps...it isn't over as far as they are concerned. They will get the report and they will get Mueller and Barr to speak as well as conducting their own investigation. IT IS NOT OVER!

[nini]

20. exactly

We're got a ways to go and I'm sure so much other stuff was found to help NY out.

Not to mention Barr isn't exactly the most trustworthy person on the planet.

[OliverQ]

29. I hope you're right, but I'm not convinced.

Looks very much like Republicans successfully destroyed America and the rule of law.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

10. Problem is after 2016 I don't trust the polls.

Law and order was supposed to be a firewall.

It was breached today.

[standingtall]

12. Trump was never going to be indicted while in office

first we beat him in 2020 and he gets indicted if not by the federal government by the state of New York. We should play the long game.

[grantcart]

13. And ultimately that is the only way to not only discredit Trump but the millions that follow him

[J_William_Ryan]

14. We've never wanted Trump indicted or impeached.

It’s always been about 2020.

Removing Trump from office via the impeachment process – or any other process prior to 2021 – gains the nation nothing; Pence is as bad as Trump, if not worse.

This is over when a Democrat is in the WH in 2021.

Indeed, this is not about ‘Trump’ – any Republican in the WH is just as much a disaster for our Nation, any Republican in the WH would be making the same dreadful appointments to the courts, any Republican in the WH would be pursing the same failed, wrongheaded rightwing agenda.

[Poiuyt]

25. What do you mean, "we"?

I sure as hell did. I want history to show that trump was impeached so that future Americans will know there are ramifications to corruption.

[JI7]

15. he was never going to be impeached with the current makeup of the senate

[elfin]

16. Sadly, I agree.

If there is even a glimmer of him winning we must keep the House and win the Senate. That way, impeachment can proceed immediately along with conviction. So it's a coup - so what? Dems must save the republic, or what's left of it by then.

[uponit7771]

18. Nah, hold DNC responsible for going all the way through

[Raine]

19. Exactly

he's not leaving until he's voted out of office, it's time to face reality and move on!

[roamer65]

21. NYS and SDNY are continuing investigations.

They will bear fruit.

[Yavin4]

22. Focus on policy and a vision for the future

Trump is protected by corrupt institutions.

[customerserviceguy]

24. Two years ago I moved away from New York State

Just about every institution in that place, both governmental and private, are chock-full of incompetency, cronyism, nepotism and fraud. Don't put your trust in either branch of government.

The election is the only thing that can be counted on to bear fruit, if we get it right this time around.

[RockRaven]

26. Trump was NEVER going to be impeached *and removed* with this GOP.

And Trump will indeed be indicted, but not while an AG he appointed runs the DOJ (i.e. once a Dem is POTUS and/or by non-DOJ entities). Why you say that equates to "It's all over" is a mystery.

[Thekaspervote]

27. IMHO most understood that it would be 2020 before the orange stain is gone

He makes new enemies everyday. His base is smaller he will be easier to defeat. In the meantime, don’t awfulize, moan, whine, we simply cannot afford a defeatist attitude

[wasupaloopa]

28. What's With the "move on" OPs tonight

It seems like you don’t want us to get to the truth.

I haven’t read this thread but if what I think is correct you’ll be replying to a lot of replies to you.

For your information, we can walk and chew him at the same time.

[Yavin4]

31. Because you cannot and won't ever get the truth

Corrupted institutions are protecting Trump like they've always have. We have to focus on changing the institutions themselves which is a much larger and more important task.