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"The report is much worse than this." (Original Post) Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 OP
This I believe! Iliyah Mar 2019 #1
Meanwhile, Ken Dilanian is tweeting Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #8
I've suspected Ken Dilanian of being a secret Trumpiod. He can't oasis Mar 2019 #27
Who is she and how would she know? defacto7 Mar 2019 #2
She works for Slate, she is often the host of Trumpcast. Very reliable. dewsgirl Mar 2019 #4
Ok, thank you. But still how could she know? defacto7 Mar 2019 #6
She says she has a reliable source. She is a reputable dewsgirl Mar 2019 #13
I hope this source, who knows the report, moonscape Mar 2019 #15
For all we know customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #17
Or in the DOJ. triron Mar 2019 #18
Would the DOJ customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #19
Your guess sounds more likely. Maybe the source is even Rosenstein? It's possible. triron Mar 2019 #20
A mole is a mole customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #21
She says it's a good source. She isn't a loon that goes dewsgirl Mar 2019 #28
You don't have to be a loon customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #29
I doubt this reporter would be so easily misled. triron Mar 2019 #30
Because customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #31
I keep hearing that, but it's never supported by objective evidence. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #34
Ok, then customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #36
Personally, I've never found anyone associated with Slate to be reliable, hughee99 Mar 2019 #37
How good of a source is she? uponit7771 Mar 2019 #3
She is a writer for Slate. Often hosts Trumpcast. Reliable. dewsgirl Mar 2019 #5
Well, then maybe her source needs to start NotAPuppet Mar 2019 #7
i still think Donald Rump is guilty of Treason. trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #9
I do too. triron Mar 2019 #10
knr triron Mar 2019 #11
kick again triron Mar 2019 #12
knr triron Mar 2019 #14
Kick. MontanaMama Mar 2019 #16
I need a little more than "trust me it is bad" to be believable Takket Mar 2019 #22
Who is this person and why should we believe them? OliverQ Mar 2019 #23
Mueller was not consulted on Barr's letter Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #24
Correct, but what makes us think OliverQ Mar 2019 #25
The number of crimes in plain sight in public reporting. Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #26
where is our modern Daniel Ellsberg when we need one? nt Javaman Mar 2019 #32
It's past time for someone on Mueller's team Ilsa Mar 2019 #33
Apparently it wasn't bad enough to, you know, charge anyone nt Azathoth Mar 2019 #35
To her credit...the first tweets came out before we saw the Barr "summary" cbdo2007 Mar 2019 #38

Qutzupalotl

(14,302 posts)
8. Meanwhile, Ken Dilanian is tweeting
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:38 PM
Mar 2019

that this is a “total exoneration” for Trump ... even though Barr’s letter says the exact fucking opposite of that.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
2. Who is she and how would she know?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:29 PM
Mar 2019

A columnist and news contributer wouldn't know any more than anyone else what's in the report.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
17. For all we know
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mar 2019

her source could be a Trump mole on Mueller's team, the same one that caused Trump to look so smug from Friday to today.

We've been played.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
19. Would the DOJ
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:25 PM
Mar 2019

have been privy to the goings-on at Mueller's offices? Or are you suggesting that some Evelyn Woods speedreader went through the whole Mueller report as soon as his office handed it over to the AG on Friday, for Trump to have been given the inside knowledge that he'd be OK come Monday morning?

My best guess is that someone inside Mueller's office leaked this to the White House, right after their job on the team disappeared.

triron

(21,999 posts)
20. Your guess sounds more likely. Maybe the source is even Rosenstein? It's possible.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:38 PM
Mar 2019

After all he's about to leave the DOJ.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
21. A mole is a mole
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:41 PM
Mar 2019

no matter how high or low they are in an organization. But I doubt that Rosenstein would take a chance on blowing smoke up a reporter's behind. Some minor character, maybe not even a lawyer, might be this reporter's "source".

People believe what they want to hear, whether it's true or not.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
28. She says it's a good source. She isn't a loon that goes
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:31 AM
Mar 2019

around claiming she knows stuff. I've followed her, listened to Trumpcast since this nightmare began.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
29. You don't have to be a loon
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 11:42 AM
Mar 2019

to be deceived by someone posing as your "friend" who really wants to lead you down the garden path towards looking foolish when the cards are all on the table.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
31. Because
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:12 PM
Mar 2019

I've had my hopes dashed so many times in the last three years. I guess I tend towards pessimism on things that I can't do anything about.

I've never heard of this reporter before, and I have no idea who the source might be, or their motivations, so I tend to dismiss it. Time to move on from the denial stage, and get to the acceptance stage, where energy can be expended towards our nominee. In the last few days, I've read a few more things about Pete Buttigieg that cause me to think that he'll liven up the process of picking out a nominee rather than just simply being an overambitious politician who is simply trying to get name recognition for 2024 or 2028.

That's where I choose to place my hope, instead of clinging to the straws of obscure reporters and mysterious sources.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. I keep hearing that, but it's never supported by objective evidence.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:31 PM
Mar 2019

"We've been played..."

I keep hearing that, but it's never supported by objective evidence. Bumper-sticker-opinions don't concern me as they're simply visceral reactions reflecting the bumper more than anything else.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
36. Ok, then
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:34 PM
Mar 2019

wait for the Mueller report to come out. It shouldn't take more than a couple of weeks, during which time Trump will continue to do assholish things, and we will still have a pre-primary season that most Americans will not be paying any attention to.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
37. Personally, I've never found anyone associated with Slate to be reliable,
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

But that doesn’t mean she’s wrong.

NotAPuppet

(326 posts)
7. Well, then maybe her source needs to start
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 07:38 PM
Mar 2019

spilling the beans. Little cryptic messages won’t be sufficient.

What’s in the report?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
23. Who is this person and why should we believe them?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:46 PM
Mar 2019

Why would Mueller let Barr release a summary that protects Trump if Mueller knows it's false?

Qutzupalotl

(14,302 posts)
26. The number of crimes in plain sight in public reporting.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:58 PM
Mar 2019

One assumes Mueller knows even more. We know he has farmed out investigations to other jurisdictions, by some counts as high as 19 venues.

I’m posting this not because I know or trust the source (I don’t), but to reiterate that this ain’t over. Barr may spin, but Mueller can describe actions in full detail if he so chooses. So it’s the report, and subsequent investigations, not Barr’s letter that will be consequential in the long run.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
33. It's past time for someone on Mueller's team
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:16 PM
Mar 2019

or in the DOJ to copy and hand out the report to WaPo, NYTimes, and other publications.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
38. To her credit...the first tweets came out before we saw the Barr "summary"
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:42 PM
Mar 2019

and she clearly states, "Word of caution: this is NOT Mueller's report" because she seemed to know it was going to be heavily spun, and that everyone was going to freak out.

I think she is correct that the actual report is much worse, which is why Barr/Trump are trying to write their narrative first.

Like others have said, I bet it hedges on those terms "Russian Government" vs non-government Russian officials, which is who he truly colluded with, and which it likely says in the Report.

Now they are spinning like crazy to find a way to use Executive Privilege to make sure the rest of the report is never released, so we need someone to make sure it IS released.

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