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Why isn't Trump gloating more? (Original Post) PTWB Mar 2019 OP
Because he knows the southern dist. NY attorneys office has his number nmgaucho Mar 2019 #1
He's planning to retire and put it all into Pence's and VP Lindsey Graham's hands. marble falls Mar 2019 #2
I wouldn't discount that scenario at all DFW Mar 2019 #30
Its only about 25% a joke. Trump is smart enought to know 2020 doesn't look good for him ... marble falls Mar 2019 #31
I think so too. madaboutharry Mar 2019 #3
Mueller has put out comments undermining Barr, that needs to be a separate thread. Haven't seen it. Hoyt Mar 2019 #8
What are you talking about? leftynyc Mar 2019 #34
Gloating about being blissfully ignorant about Russia's help enabling him to win isn't that easy Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #4
Congress is a non factor. Even if we impeach the Rs in the senate will never convict. PTWB Mar 2019 #7
Not talking impeachment. Russia influencing our national elections IS a national emergency Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #11
SDNY ? stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #5
Southern district of New York. sarcasmo Mar 2019 #18
He doesn't know what to tweet. lunatica Mar 2019 #6
Barr is Roy Cohn 2.0. Dawson Leery Mar 2019 #9
THIS orangecrush Mar 2019 #19
Because Barr stinks to high heaven. roamer65 Mar 2019 #10
Agree and if this was the conclusion why the 40 hours with no... cbdo2007 Mar 2019 #12
He wasn't exonerated and by now he knows the report will bury him. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #13
Not Sure Why Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #14
They're planning an offensive using the Senate to go after Comey and others blm Mar 2019 #15
I suspect you're quite right about this. n/t Mister Ed Mar 2019 #17
+1, they're going to use this threat of going after Clinton as a hedge uponit7771 Mar 2019 #28
Because he doesn't need to... Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #16
Exactly. Our best shot at trump is in 19 months Hoyt Mar 2019 #26
Maybe he's wondering if Epstein's court documents will be unsealed this wk in Manhattan... Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #20
The Epstein/Trump video of how Trump says he likes the same things Epstein likes Scotch-Irish Mar 2019 #27
He's been gloating a lot, as are his hoard of OliverQ Mar 2019 #21
Wait until the Big Macs hit him at 5 am Takket Mar 2019 #22
AGREED. Something is up. He's acting very, very, um . . . sedate. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #23
He's waiting on the demands for the full report customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #24
More benefit in steady acceleration than foot to the floor Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #25
Give him a few hours. You'll soon hear "Complete exoneration!" every fucking day. VOX Mar 2019 #29
I'm sure he's gearing up for a nationwide tour of why he's the best and Hillary should go to jail. Vinca Mar 2019 #32
When he does it, it's going to be big. Calista241 Mar 2019 #33
There was a theory ScratchCat Mar 2019 #35
Yep ck4829 Mar 2019 #36

nmgaucho

(527 posts)
1. Because he knows the southern dist. NY attorneys office has his number
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:06 PM
Mar 2019

I've always though money laundering and tax evasion would be his downfall

DFW

(54,330 posts)
30. I wouldn't discount that scenario at all
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:08 AM
Mar 2019

With his changing directions more often than the wind, he might decide "my work is done here, I made America great again," and come out with his line that he accomplished ten times as much in four years as Obama did in eight.

Somewhere in the bowels of the White House, there is certainly a small group of strategists who remember that Fox "News" is a propaganda arm of the Republican Party, and not of the Trump White House. The moment the Murdoch family decides that Trump is imperiling their Senate majority, Fox will find so much wrongdoing by Trump and Co. that the Mueller Report will seem like a fourth grade book report by comparison. And don't forget that Fox is under no restraints such as discretion or an obligation to be truthful.


marble falls

(57,063 posts)
31. Its only about 25% a joke. Trump is smart enought to know 2020 doesn't look good for him ...
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:41 AM
Mar 2019

egoist enough not to want to lose, and mendacious enough to claim he was such a great POTUS that he did two terms of work in less than four years.

I think Lindsey Graham is soulless enough to sell out completely for VP.

madaboutharry

(40,200 posts)
3. I think so too.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:07 PM
Mar 2019

They’re putting out PR bullshit, but there is already problems with this letter Barr put out. Mueller is already putting out comments that undermine Barr. This is going to get very complicated.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Mueller has put out comments undermining Barr, that needs to be a separate thread. Haven't seen it.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:10 PM
Mar 2019

But, that would make a yuge difference.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
34. What are you talking about?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:07 AM
Mar 2019

I've seen no comments from Mueller's office other than they're not commenting.

Freethinker65

(10,008 posts)
4. Gloating about being blissfully ignorant about Russia's help enabling him to win isn't that easy
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mar 2019

His base would eat it up, but he still needs to deal with congress.

Freethinker65

(10,008 posts)
11. Not talking impeachment. Russia influencing our national elections IS a national emergency
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:15 PM
Mar 2019

Congress needs to act.

They will allow Trump to look like he was ignorantly duped, but the report was clear Russia played a significant role in influencing the last election. The GOP up for election need to at least appear concerned.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. He doesn't know what to tweet.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:09 PM
Mar 2019

He can’t read and his dozen or so lawyers are probably still reading, digesting, analyzing and figuring out a strategy for how to spin the report. Some things still take time.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
9. Barr is Roy Cohn 2.0.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:10 PM
Mar 2019

A fixer.

It is going to be a fight to see the entire report.

SDNY and DC are looking into his financial dealings.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
12. Agree and if this was the conclusion why the 40 hours with no...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:15 PM
Mar 2019

Tweet?? That was completely out of character especially if this was the conclusion.

Something going on here. I'm guessing the full report is horrible for Trump and his lawyers are trying to figure out how to keep it hidden from Congress citing Executive privilege. The only way this goes poorly for Trump os of Congress and the American public see the full report.

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
14. Not Sure Why
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:22 PM
Mar 2019

Maybe as some think he is still concerned about SDNY? I do think it is possible that the best way to hit Trump is to investigate his finances. He has always been a shady businessman. He just has never been under this kind of scrutiny.

They got Capone on Tax Evasion and Financial Crimes. Maybe Trump will be caught the same way. If that happens, I suspect that it will occur after Trump is out of office. So, I think the plan is to beat the Repubs in the 2020 election, and then feed Trump to the sharks in New York. He will retire into ignominy and maybe prison, hopefully along with some of his cohorts.

It might be wishful thinking though. I think the focus on investigating Trump through the Congress (Nadler and others) is the way to go to keep pressure on Trump and his people up through the election in 2020. Then we will knock him out politically and elect a good Democratic President. I look forward to Trump being defeated and whining that the election was rigged. Once out of office, the issue about whether you can indict a sitting President will be moot. He might go to prison the same way Martha Stewart did, only on more serious white collar crimes.

blm

(113,038 posts)
15. They're planning an offensive using the Senate to go after Comey and others
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:23 PM
Mar 2019

To keep the public confused. Barr is setting it up with this bullshit summary.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
16. Because he doesn't need to...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:29 PM
Mar 2019

The press is doing it for him and he's probably been told gloating will only hurt him in this instance as it'll appear as if he's over celebrating.

Trump rarely listens to his handlers but on this they probably have explained why it's important to let the narrative be the report and not his stupid tweets. The report is all the gloating he needs. It's the top story on the news. Everyone who watches the news will hear it perfectly: Mueller finds no evidence Trump colluded with Russia.

The gloating will always be there but right now he's letting things pass.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
20. Maybe he's wondering if Epstein's court documents will be unsealed this wk in Manhattan...
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:41 PM
Mar 2019
Two mystery litigants citing privacy concerns are making a last-ditch bid to keep secret some details in a lawsuit stemming from wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein’s history of paying underage girls for sex.

Just prior to a court-imposed deadline Tuesday, two anonymous individuals surfaced to object to the unsealing of a key lower-court ruling in the case, as well as various submissions by the parties.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/jeffrey-epstein-related-lawsuit-1229908

They were going to be unsealed last Tuesday, but two lawyers repping anonymous people (one possibly one of the victims) filed to halt unsealing.

But maybe they’ll work it all out and documents will be opened for all to see and maybe some names will be in there that dumbfuck45 personally knows. Namely, himself.

hopefully

 

Scotch-Irish

(464 posts)
27. The Epstein/Trump video of how Trump says he likes the same things Epstein likes
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:43 AM
Mar 2019

and then all those little kids going missing at the US/Mexican border has all looked like one big trafficking ring to me. Throw in the Russians and the Ukranians, and you can just see the whole mob selling kids around the world, and laundering money to hide it. I think the tRump crowd is into selling (and buying or stealing) kids for sex

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
24. He's waiting on the demands for the full report
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:18 PM
Mar 2019

or at least as much of it as can legally be released to reach a crescendo, then it will come out, confirming the gist of the summary. Then, he'll gloat his ass off.

Look, his advisers got him to stop tweeting for nearly a whole weekend. They've convinced him that letting Mueller blow up in our faces after we demand it will be much more effective at deflating our anger and throwing us into despair.

A few weeks ago, I compared waiting for the Mueller report to sitting in a pumpkin patch waiting for "The Great Pumpkin" to appear. It seems that I might have been right.

All focus should be on choosing the best candidate to beat Trump next year, and doing it in such a way that will allow us to strongly unite in November. No more Jill Steins or Gary Johnsons!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
25. More benefit in steady acceleration than foot to the floor
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:22 PM
Mar 2019

Trump has superior instincts than I preferred to believe in 2016. A knucklehead would have jumped all over this and spent most of the gain in 50 rapid fire tweets.

Instead he'll probably have rallies that he knows will be extensively covered, and where he'll ramp up the mocking and unveil new phrases

VOX

(22,976 posts)
29. Give him a few hours. You'll soon hear "Complete exoneration!" every fucking day.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 06:21 AM
Mar 2019

Along with “Lock her up!” and “Electoral College landslide!”

Vinca

(50,250 posts)
32. I'm sure he's gearing up for a nationwide tour of why he's the best and Hillary should go to jail.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:43 AM
Mar 2019

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
33. When he does it, it's going to be big.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:55 AM
Mar 2019

I feel for sure he’s going to have a nationally televised press conference. Probably in prime time with everyone carrying it.

ScratchCat

(1,980 posts)
35. There was a theory
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:29 AM
Mar 2019

That once Mueller was "done", then all the other jurisdictions would drop their indictments since they would no longer interfere with his investigation. They kept saying Friday and the weekend "no more indictments FROM MUELLER".

There is clearly something else bothering Trump. The comments up the thread about the Epstein stuff may be what it is.

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