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Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:32 AM

Worse than Fitzmas?

what do you all think 🤔 Its how I am feeling

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Reply Worse than Fitzmas? (Original post)
joet67 Mar 2019 OP
UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #1
uponit7771 Mar 2019 #7
StarryNite Mar 2019 #2
LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #3
RANDYWILDMAN Mar 2019 #4
Still In Wisconsin Mar 2019 #5
zipplewrath Mar 2019 #11
Calista241 Mar 2019 #12
uponit7771 Mar 2019 #6
FBaggins Mar 2019 #8
anarch Mar 2019 #9
LanternWaste Mar 2019 #10
Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 #13

Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:35 AM

1. I'll let you know after the report is out. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:23 AM

7. THIS !!!! Please keep pushing this here and elsewhere. The KGOP in the next weeks are going to be

... screaming no full report dems should just move on.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211953199

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:35 AM

2. Worse

But not unexpected. They get away with everything and everything they get away with makes it easier for them to get away with the next bigger thing. We're on a slippery slope.

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:08 AM

3. This....

n/t..

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Response to StarryNite (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:20 AM

4. Damn...

You said it !

Fitzmas was a sham because we knew they did it and they could really only pin on Libby, the scapgoat.

This one is wrapped up with a friggin bow on it, He did it, we know he did it and NOW they can't prove it.....Fudge

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:21 AM

5. For Fitzmas we got, what, Scooter Libby (who Trump later pardoned, I think)

 

For Fitzmas 2.0 we got Manafort and Cohen, and a couple little stocking stuffers (but all before Fitzmas Day 2.0

I guess about the same, for me.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:26 AM

11. Alot of similarities

One can spend a lot of time discussing both the differences and similarities. I was becoming suspicious early on that Mueller wouldn't find anything. Mostly because the Russians were smart enough to actually personally involve Trump directly in the activities. They probably figured he was too stupid to actually be of help.

I will say though, all those people were lying for a reason.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:31 AM

12. Trump pardoned him after Bush commuted his sentence.

Libby is still probably the only person that has had his criminal status reviewed and acted upon by two separate Presidents.

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:22 AM

6. Not without the full report

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:10 AM

8. Sure... almost by definition

The greatest gift anticipated for Fitzmas was the possibility that Cheyney would end up resigning.

This holiday season the hope was for Trump to be taken down with proof that the election was stolen - resulting not only in his impeachment and removal but in the largest wave election ever seen washing republicans from office all around the country.

Last Fitzmas we asked for the toy fire engine and got coal... this Fitzmas we still get coal, but expected a pony.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:42 AM

9. well..."proof that the election was stolen...."

I got the impression that this was basically assumed to be the case, and even the Barr press release sounds like that's just taken as a matter of course--but the bigger issue is that the Republicans who hold the key positions of actual power to do anything about it, just won't...

"Yep, sure enough the Russians ratf*cked the election, but there's no clear evidence that Bonespurs himself was directly involved in working out the specific details of the deal to make that happen (and they were going to hack the election to install him in office anyway, with or without his direct assistance), so really you've got nothing you can convict him on, so what can you do? Oh, well...let's go investigate the Clintons again..."

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:05 AM

10. indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies

To date: indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies during their investigation. That group is composed of six former Trump advisers, five of which pleaded guilty.

будь лучше

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Response to joet67 (Original post)

Mon Mar 25, 2019, 08:37 AM

13. Fitzmas would have never given us Bush. If lucky, it would have given us Cheney and Rove.

So in that sense, this is worse.

However, I feel Mueller was far more thorough in a scandal that was far, far, far more extensive, and the problem here is that whatever efforts he made were essentially buried.

So worse than Fitzmas, but so different it's hard to compare the two.

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