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Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:59 PM Mar 2019

The Mueller Report is BAD for Trump. It's the only explanation for his silence this weekend - and -

I defy anyone to tell me with a straight face that Trump's hand-picked AG did not speak with him the entire weekend to map out a spin strategy. It had to be just bad enough to be plausible. That probably required more work than anything. We can be sure Trump wanted the full Ronnie Jackson "medical report" treatment, but Barr and advisors knew full well that wouldn't be believable to anyone, and would backfire.

It took them a weekend to manage the cherry-picking and concoct the proper spin.The reason why they took so little time?

a) The truth was neither important, nor an objective.
b) They needed to get control of the narrative FIRST.

How does that saying go? A lie can run around the globe a dozen times while the truth is still putting on its shoes?

The full report will be seen. It is not going to be good for him. One possible upside to all this is that we will be deeper into election season when the inevitable, actual truth is revealed. In the meantime - our Democratic candidate will present the country with a vision of sanity, restored self-respect and hope.

Take heart y'all; we got this one! And politely tell those who feel they simply must engage in defeatism to keep that shit to themselves. We've got a job to do. Let's get on with it.







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The Mueller Report is BAD for Trump. It's the only explanation for his silence this weekend - and - (Original Post) Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 OP
I agree manor321 Mar 2019 #1
I don't but any stock in the whole affair. Republicans appointed by Republicans to judge Repubs. olegramps Mar 2019 #25
Barr knew three weeks ago that Mueller was unable to reach a conclusion. gldstwmn Mar 2019 #2
Say "sources" lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #3
Oh I think the report is bad. I don't buy gldstwmn Mar 2019 #5
He probably typed it up when he wrote that sales pitch claiming Royal powers for Trump. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #7
True. Several weeks ago it was reported that Barr had not spoken w/Mueller. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #16
"unable" can be used in many contexts here, many of them detrimental for Trump Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #4
Maybe Kellyanne Conway's husband will leak it. n/t gldstwmn Mar 2019 #6
+1 We must stop thinking "Mueller said this or that" just because Barr spins it that way. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #8
Precisely. We have precious few and incomplete quotes from Mueller himself. All else is spin. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #10
Russian government uponit7771 Mar 2019 #9
If Trump gets a second term Russia will go in for the kill by turning on him - think of it - Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #11
I'm glad someone agrees with me on that ScratchCat Mar 2019 #13
Putin Just Sent Military Forces To Venezuela DallasNE Mar 2019 #22
thank you Maru JustAnotherGen Mar 2019 #12
subpoena Mueller? Chakaconcarne Mar 2019 #14
I think a review of On The Media's "Consumer's Handbook" . . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2019 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #17
That's right... Callmecrazy Mar 2019 #18
If it exonerated him, BadgerMom Mar 2019 #19
NYT headline VS WaPo Headline Cha Mar 2019 #20
I think you are absolutely correct. Silver Gaia Mar 2019 #21
Control Of The Narrative DallasNE Mar 2019 #23
I really don't believe that most of us are feeling defeated about this..... Jim_Pridx Mar 2019 #24
Whining sure won't defeat them! lunatica Mar 2019 #26
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. I agree
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:02 PM
Mar 2019

Marcy Wheeler

In other words, what seems like a formal referral to HJC [House Judiciary Committee], as the constitutionally proper body to determine whether Trump obstructed justice, was instead not referred, but instead short-circuited by a guy who reversed what he said in his confirmation hearing.



olegramps

(8,200 posts)
25. I don't but any stock in the whole affair. Republicans appointed by Republicans to judge Repubs.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:26 PM
Mar 2019

Viola! Not guilty. Like I am supposed to be surprised. I guess they think I just fell off the turnip truck.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
2. Barr knew three weeks ago that Mueller was unable to reach a conclusion.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:02 PM
Mar 2019

It's the lead story on CNN now.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. Say "sources"
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:12 PM
Mar 2019

I wanna hear it from Mueller.

Also ask Mueller whether Barr or Trump is threatening his pension.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
5. Oh I think the report is bad. I don't buy
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:25 PM
Mar 2019

Barr's summary for one minute. He probably typed that up three weeks ago.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. True. Several weeks ago it was reported that Barr had not spoken w/Mueller.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:14 PM
Mar 2019

At around the time that Barr said a report is coming soon.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
4. "unable" can be used in many contexts here, many of them detrimental for Trump
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:22 PM
Mar 2019

We must hear from Mueller, and we must have the full report. Everything else is spin and bullshit from camp orange.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. +1 We must stop thinking "Mueller said this or that" just because Barr spins it that way.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:31 PM
Mar 2019

None of it means anything at all without Mueller's report and his evidence.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
11. If Trump gets a second term Russia will go in for the kill by turning on him - think of it -
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:37 PM
Mar 2019

what could possibly make the country weaker?

ScratchCat

(1,981 posts)
13. I'm glad someone agrees with me on that
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:50 PM
Mar 2019

I've been telling everyone who will listen that if Russia has something on Trump, they will eventually release it simply for the reason you say. They don't "win" by keeping it a secret. And by the look on Trump's face after the private meeting with Putin at Helsinki, its 100% that he has something.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
22. Putin Just Sent Military Forces To Venezuela
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:00 PM
Mar 2019

And Trump hasn't said a word - so much for the Monroe Doctrine. How soon before he parks nukes down there and has a military base. (And why isn't the media all over this.)

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
12. thank you Maru
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:48 PM
Mar 2019

All I saw yesterday was doom and gloom. I look at this as a tool to use not only in 2020 - but this year in NJ (our state elections). Forgive me- but if we could let get the details to ooze out slowly - it can be just enough to suppress and demoralize the Trump voter in 2020.

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
15. I think a review of On The Media's "Consumer's Handbook" . . .
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 02:57 PM
Mar 2019

. . .on this subject matter is in order:

https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/breaking-news-consumers-handbook-mueller-edition

Personally, I think this shit will explode in Trump & Co.'s faces when they least expect it.
At least that's my hope.

Meanwhile, Thanks, Maru.

Response to Maru Kitteh (Original post)

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
18. That's right...
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:09 PM
Mar 2019

It's over. And I say thank God we caught all the con men and hucksters that were surrounding Trump.
Now maybe we can all take a few deep knee bends and get back to our lives.
All the stuff going on in NY will probably produce nothing as well.
I'm glad to hear the POTUS is not a spy, just a moron. And there's no law against that.

Silver Gaia

(4,542 posts)
21. I think you are absolutely correct.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 04:49 PM
Mar 2019

This is why Barr's son became one of Trump's attorneys. Phone calls between Barr and any other of Trump's attorneys over this past weekend would have raised a red flag, but calls between a father and son can more easily be explained if questioned. This is why he was put there, IMO. Just part of the plan.

And I agree with the rest of your post as well. Let's pull it together and get to work! Remember THIS: "Yes, we CAN!"

Jim_Pridx

(72 posts)
24. I really don't believe that most of us are feeling defeated about this.....
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:22 PM
Mar 2019

....quite the contrary, really. Disappointed? Absolutely! However, even with the right's spin on things as we're witnessing at the moment, this can and should be considered as a fairly major setback, one that has clearly resulted in some consequences that the Dems will need to deal with. The right-wing propaganda machine will not stop here, either, for they will attempt to degrade us again and again if we continue to allow them to. If anything, this has bolstered my enthusiasm more than ever.

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