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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have NO reason at this point to NOT believe Mueller if he testifies in the House, BUT
How does everyone else feel? If he is asked this question, Did BARR fire you? Also will Mueller testify, if tRUMP and or Barr asked him NOT TOO?
kentuck
(111,056 posts)It was dangerous and reckless.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)kentuck
(111,056 posts)Most people operate in their own interest. I'm sure Mueller does not wish to be seen as a patsy for Trump or Barr.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)by the executive branch of government and therefore shouldn't be able to claim executive privilege if he were given a subpoena to testify?
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,779 posts)Refusal to testify would be contempt of Congress.
I also see no reason for him to lie about anything.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)Hell i'm thinking he would want to testify. Also i feel NO ONE should stop him!
lark
(23,066 posts)I'd love to hear what he has to say, but truly, I won't believe it if he says drumpf did not conspire with Russia, we saw & heard it and tons of proof. It will just mean that the radical racists russian repugs have stolen our government and we are fucked. If he says that he was not allowed to complete his investigation, well, that's a totally different story and his honor will be retained.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)If he was told that he CANNOT finish his investigation!! WHOLE NEW BALLGAME then!!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and in public.
If he doesn't, it means he's being blocked by Barr, or Barr on orders of Trump.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)First it was Iran-Contra White Washing,now it is Russia-Gate .
Irony is,MSM is doing the PR in the Coverup. Sorry to say,same shit by the Rethugs only Twenty plus years later.
This is what happens to Democracy when Complacency rules the day.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)They just can't get the RIGHT message out! It IS so depressing listening to them! I just disregard them, BUT somehow someone has to set the record straight!!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)As a Bloomberg watcher,especially the Eourpe Edition which ends for us at 9 AM Pacific,then becomes USA 10 PM. Today at 9 it was all Rethug Guests pounding Right Wing Talking Points about how Great Trump and the Economy is and all those Jobs that are returning.
Yah right,then why is US Consumer Confidence in the dumpster since October.
Try our darnest to watch ABC nightly News last night,talk about Disney going all in with Trump,hope folks who watched that Infomercial for Trump hit the twitter and e-mail responses. We did.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)NO fucking body corrects any of them lying fuckers! Hard on people with Blood Pressure problems!!
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)are top down News Operations work. And,they are all Corporate owned by extremely for Profit Billionaire Conservatives. And those conservative ideals are hammered home to the Production Staffs as well as the script Writers. It is not a friendly environment for a Liberal thinking Reporter or on air Talent. Known several who just simply had to walk away before they were shown the door knowing full well that their Contracts were not being renewed.
rockfordfile
(8,699 posts)Always be skeptical of a Republican.
Like I said white washed. Even if I give any credit to Mueller is to say he half-ass it. Why didn't he have Trump face to face over this attack on our elections by the Russians and others? But the realist in me from the beginning and Republican history could see miles back the bs again.
I think from the start to have a true investigation would have been for Clinton to have won or Democrats having control of the House/Senate. I think the DOJ policy not to indict a sitting President is un-American. It's like saying we live in a dictatorship. A American having done the same crime gets indicted, but another American doesn't get indicted.
The propped up Mueller being such a stand up guy, to the Trumpf pretend to really dislike Mueller. The American people are the ones getting ripped off in all of this.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)DOJ policy to NOT indict a sitting president sucks for sure!! My question does this change with different administrations? I'm not to up on this stuff!
allgood33
(1,584 posts)our candidate should be asking "How is the economy doing for your household?" "How is the job market for your household?"
One thing the furlough demonstrated is that there are a lot of working families out there who are living pay check to pay check and finding it more and more difficult to make ends meet. These are the people we need to speak to in large and small gatherings. They need to know about all the retails stores closing and taking community jobs away. They need to know about how the new tax law is robbing them of working family deductions while allowing the big CEOs and the uber wealthy to get away with paying little or nothing in taxes.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)HEADS in the SAND!
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)This is no different than the entire process. Everyone keeps expecting seismic shifts based on some revelation or development. It's not going to happen and was never going to happen. There won't be a Perry Mason moment or Alexander Butterfield moment if Mueller testifies. It will be tentative and legalistic and hardly earth shattering. It certainly won't be enough to deflect from the publicly accepted theme that Mueller cleared Trump.
No matter what any of our House members ask Robert Mueller, just imagine a succession of Republican panelists asking essentially the same question over and again, "Mr. Mueller, you didn't find enough evidence to conclude that Donald Trump colluded with Russians to manipulate the 2016 election, did you?"
Mueller is not going to answer emotionally or in great detail or in any manner significantly helpful to our side. He's going to default to legal definition of that question and answer, "No, we did not."
And that's it. That is the clip that will dominate every newscast. Some version very close to that. We'll scramble for the peripheral details while the nation absorbs a few simple words. I'm sorry to inject reality but it is simple to evaluate as a handicapper. I've had to deal with variables and outcomes for 35 years. Rachel Maddow and Seth Abramson can compete nightly with their lists of 22 or 15 bullet points regarding the Mueller probe but none of that is applicable in real world 2019.