Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:00 AM
babylonsister (169,441 posts)
Adam Schiff Just Shattered Trump's Hope Of Burying The Mueller Report
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/29/adam-schiff-just-shattered-trumps-hope-of-burying-the-mueller-report.html
Posted on Fri, Mar 29th, 2019 by Jason Easley Adam Schiff Just Shattered Trump’s Hope Of Burying The Mueller Report House Intelligence Committee chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) flatly stated that Congress would get the whole Mueller report, even the redacted sections. Schiff said during an interview with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow: We’re going to compel the release of the report. This report is all going to come out and it’s just going to reflect more poorly on the attorney general if when it does come out, and we look at the difference between what he redacted and what was under those redactions it shows an effort to cover up or conceal either evidence of impropriety of evidence of a lack of morals or ethics or judgment and that is shy of criminality or in the case of obstruction of justice is criminality. We’re going to compel this. This is a fight that is worth going to the mat on.
Bill Barr and his confirmation said I’ll be as transparent as possible as much as the law or policy would allow, if he was true to those words, as Jerry Nadler said, he wouldn’t be saying I’m cutting all the grand jury material. He would be saying Congress, I’m going to the court tomorrow to seek their permission to send it all to you. And I’ll tell you this, the other areas he redact about classified information, we get that all the time. Information about pending investigation matters gave hundreds of thousands of pages that were both open investigation and investigation material that reflected on the privacy of third parties and if you don’t think so, ask Peter Strzok or Lisa Page how they feel about that. Link to tweet Trump isn’t going to be able to hide the full Mueller report from the House Intelligence Committee. Trump’s delusions of claiming total exoneration while hiding the evidence have been shattered. Bill Barr has carried Trump’s water, but he can’t keep the report from Congress. When the full report is released, it is going to expose not just Donald Trump, but the stooge behavior of Bill Barr. Donald Trump is starting to understand that he isn’t going to get away with his big Mueller report con.
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babylonsister | Mar 2019 | OP |
gordianot | Mar 2019 | #1 | |
LuvNewcastle | Mar 2019 | #4 | |
onit2day | Mar 2019 | #40 | |
malaise | Mar 2019 | #2 | |
Grammy23 | Mar 2019 | #9 | |
TruckFump | Mar 2019 | #26 | |
LiberalFighter | Mar 2019 | #29 | |
gldstwmn | Mar 2019 | #32 | |
watoos | Mar 2019 | #3 | |
certainot | Mar 2019 | #13 | |
Scarsdale | Mar 2019 | #5 | |
Vdizzle | Mar 2019 | #6 | |
not_the_one | Mar 2019 | #28 | |
Vdizzle | Mar 2019 | #39 | |
onit2day | Mar 2019 | #41 | |
spanone | Mar 2019 | #7 | |
Timmygoat | Mar 2019 | #8 | |
DesertRat | Mar 2019 | #10 | |
OhNo-Really | Mar 2019 | #17 | |
DesertRat | Mar 2019 | #24 | |
c-rational | Mar 2019 | #11 | |
myohmy2 | Mar 2019 | #12 | |
MyOwnPeace | Mar 2019 | #14 | |
cstanleytech | Mar 2019 | #15 | |
Honeycombe8 | Mar 2019 | #18 | |
cstanleytech | Mar 2019 | #20 | |
Honeycombe8 | Mar 2019 | #21 | |
True Blue American | Mar 2019 | #16 | |
smirkymonkey | Mar 2019 | #19 | |
UniteFightBack | Mar 2019 | #22 | |
LibDemAlways | Mar 2019 | #23 | |
corbettkroehler | Mar 2019 | #25 | |
ProudMNDemocrat | Mar 2019 | #27 | |
DirtEdonE | Mar 2019 | #30 | |
gldstwmn | Mar 2019 | #31 | |
Pepsidog | Mar 2019 | #33 | |
dchill | Mar 2019 | #34 | |
BlueJac | Mar 2019 | #35 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Mar 2019 | #36 | |
pdsimdars | Mar 2019 | #37 | |
oldsoftie | Mar 2019 | #38 | |
TomVilmer | Mar 2019 | #42 |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:10 AM
gordianot (14,903 posts)
1. How could obstruction of justice be inconclusive when it is still in progress?
Response to gordianot (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:25 AM
LuvNewcastle (15,363 posts)
4. The executive branch thinks the report belongs to them.
They obviously don't see themselves as working for the people, never mind who paid for the investigation in the first place. That report should have been made public as soon as it was done. I can understand why they might not release certain parts of it if their were matters of national security involved, but too many times government uses national security as a shield to cover asses. I know that Trump and company were compromised, and we deserve to see the proof so we can figure out what to do about it.
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Response to gordianot (Reply #1)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:08 PM
onit2day (1,201 posts)
40. Beware: Trump is delusional and insane sickly.Don't be fearful, just alert
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:13 AM
malaise (245,643 posts)
2. If he had been exonerated free copies of the entire report
would have been everywhere. I have never seen such a sloppy cover-up
Lock them all up! |
Response to malaise (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:10 AM
Grammy23 (5,707 posts)
9. Ya got that right, Malaise.
We’d have already received it and would have finished reading it by now.
tRump is scared sh*tless but he has to put on his big bully act for his base. The rest of us have two brain cells to rub together and have figured out how to interpret BS when we hear it or read it. Barr’s letter raised way more questions than answers. So he better gird his loins. This fight ain’t even half started. Release the full, unredacted report. Pronto. |
Response to malaise (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:46 AM
TruckFump (4,719 posts)
26. Hell, the government printing press would have copied the report, book bound it...
...and every citizen 18 and over would have been Fed-Ex'ed a copy!
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Response to malaise (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:00 AM
LiberalFighter (43,930 posts)
29. Wouldn't he have ordered the report plastered on billboards?
Response to malaise (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:46 AM
gldstwmn (3,916 posts)
32. The fact that the White House in in such disarray
is to our advantage. This week was a complete and utter shit show for them.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:17 AM
watoos (7,142 posts)
3. Rules are different for Democrats.
There is plenty of precedence for the Mueller report to be released to Congress, so what? Republicans will fight releasing it right up to the SC. It may be up to Robert Mueller to do a press conference because Republicans will fight Congress subpoenaing him to testify right up to the SC.
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Response to watoos (Reply #3)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:32 AM
certainot (8,399 posts)
13. yup. rules are different. and denial and projection is so natural to them they can't imagine that
democrats can evaluate it without leaking like the nunes bunch
barr is there to either save trump or to make him think so until it's necessary to dump him (and a bunch of other cons) for short term loss to save the party/institution. or maybe barr just freaks out and gives it up without getting the go ahead. or they stall to the SC after putting someone like trey gowdy doody on and we won't see it unless mueller spills it or some patriot with access to a copy leaks it. good to hear dems saying they will stick to the tuesday deadline. if they don't get it get barr and mueller in front of camera with one day notice every day they stall this is another day of global warming denial |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:28 AM
Scarsdale (9,426 posts)
5. There HAS to be other
copies. What is someone "accidentally" sent a copy to the democratic committee? Someone who is sick and tired of this fiasco with tRump and the traitorous gop. Someone who really does love this country, and is tired of it being dragged into the pits of HELL. People with nothing to hide, hide nothing.
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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #5)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:36 AM
Vdizzle (323 posts)
6. Then the rebubs will claim
that it isn’t the real report and the go about their usual rat-effing and muddy the waters in order to sew doubt when the official copy does come to light.
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Response to Vdizzle (Reply #6)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:56 AM
not_the_one (2,227 posts)
28. You can rest assured that ANYTHING that we get
with the permission of William Barr, will NOT be the real report.
I won't trust it UNLESS it comes from somebody else. We need to understand that this particular crisis, which could very well end the American experiment, is WAY more important that any privacy issues. Period. We need the complete report. Unredacted. All supporting documents. Unredacted. So what if another country finds out how we monitor them, etc. If we don't exist as a country, any issues of privacy are completely irrelevant. |
Response to not_the_one (Reply #28)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:15 PM
onit2day (1,201 posts)
41. We must impeach to get all the Mueller report, tax returns. bank statements etc
Let senate republicans show how corrupt they are by failing to convict. Trump will still be exposed before the public. The name 'Trump' will be a dirty word.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:46 AM
spanone (131,014 posts)
7. K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Amen, Mr. Schiff...ask Peter Strzok or Lisa Page how they feel about that.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 08:47 AM
Timmygoat (779 posts)
8. I just heard
That Trump & Co are already selling T Shirts with Adam Schiff and a yellow pencil neck and other offenses. Could someone print some with orange three chins, and the animal he wears on his head, also his fat rear end. They would look good!
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Response to Timmygoat (Reply #8)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:25 AM
DesertRat (27,992 posts)
10. When they go low, we use facts. nt
Response to DesertRat (Reply #10)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:50 AM
OhNo-Really (3,587 posts)
17. 👏👏👏
Or clips of them telling their bold face lies
When they sell fear, we provide viable fear soothing solutions |
Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #17)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:30 AM
DesertRat (27,992 posts)
24. Well said
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:28 AM
c-rational (2,153 posts)
11. Thank you Adam Schiff. Never let up. Barr should never have been confirmed, and the fix was in
when he was selected. No Democratic Senator should have voted for him. But true to form this is the Dumpsters and reThuglicans playbook tactic.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:31 AM
myohmy2 (2,708 posts)
12. the Gutter in Chief...
...keeps insulting Mr. Schiff and calling him names to the delight and distraction of his followers...but Mr. Schiff seems to be staying the course and remains focused...
...as long as the only narrative out there is trumpian bullshit, MAGA Man has the Dems by the ass... ...but Adam will quickly wipe the pleasure from MAGA Man's face as he uses the whole report to grab the cheeto by the balls... ...and squeeze... ![]() |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:38 AM
MyOwnPeace (14,928 posts)
14. The next time
IQ45 says he's complete exonerated I'd love to hear someone say, "PROVE IT - RELEASE ALL OF THE MUELLER REPORT!!!!!
He's chicken-shit because he knows the truth! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:42 AM
cstanleytech (23,917 posts)
15. I wonder now if Mueller could have ended his investigation on purpose now rather than closer
to the election because to get the report its going to take time and Trump and his people could have buried it pretty easy atleast until after the election had it been released closer to it.
Now though they do not have the luxury of a short time before the election to bury anything. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #15)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:55 AM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
18. I doubt that Mueller took into consideration anything political.
That's just my take on the kind of person he is, from things I've heard and read about him. And one of the reasons a Special Counsel is used is to take the investigation outside of political considerations.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #18)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:05 AM
cstanleytech (23,917 posts)
20. Well it's not exactly political rather it's that if he had done it and released closer to
the election he could be accused of trying to tamper with it like Comey succeeded in doing.
And we all saw how Trump rewarded Comey which was probably the exact opposite of what he was expecting. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #20)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:12 AM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
21. In my view, that would be a political consideration.
Taking into account the timing of his conclusion related to the election. That's precisely what a political consideration is.
What Comey did was not comparable. Comey stepped outside the norm of handling an investigation to announce re-opening the investigation. Comey actually didn't yet know whether the investigation would be re-opened; he hadn't looked at the "new" evidence that had appeared. And second, the FBI didn't, as a matter of policy, make statements to the public about investigations. Totally different situation. I don't think Mueller took anything into consideration other than he had gone as far as he could. The investigation was concluded. His job was over. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:44 AM
True Blue American (15,275 posts)
16. After the clean cut
Way Schiff handled the mealy mouthed Republicans, shamed them publicly,politely
They looked like utter fools. Ambassador McFaul was upset with the way Republicans tried to link him to the corruption,too. He said he had never been asked such questions. You will hear more from him. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 09:55 AM
smirkymonkey (63,221 posts)
19. I am glad that Adam Schiff is leading this investigation.
I trust his judgment.
Barr, Trump and the republicans are being so obvious about having something to hide by not releasing the report, or not releasing it in it's entirety. If Trump was completely exonerated, they would make the report public, or at least release it to congress. It's like Trump's grades or his tax returns, if there is nothing shameful or wrong, then why go through so much trouble to keep them a secret? The fact that he tries to hide and cover up so much tells us that there are a lot of skeletons in Donny's closet that he would rather never saw the light of day. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:16 AM
UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)
22. Someone said this morning (sorry I was in bed dozing) that it may take years or decades to see what
is in the redactions. I think it was that former prosecutor from Georgia or somewhere down south, he's got a little drawl.
That statement annoyed me so much that I woke up. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:20 AM
LibDemAlways (15,139 posts)
23. Trump's "no collusion" drumbeat rings even more
hollow than Nixon's "I'm not a crook." We all know both lines are bullshit. Schiff's not going away, and the Repukes on the committee apparently are too stupid and/or scared to realize the "protect the orange shitstain at all costs" strategy is over.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:42 AM
corbettkroehler (1,898 posts)
25. Resign, Immediately (Everyone Calling For Schiff's Resignation)! (n/t)
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:48 AM
ProudMNDemocrat (11,546 posts)
27. I watched that segment with bated breath and.....
hung on to every word coming from Adam Schiff. He has no intention of letting up until ALL of what is deemed important to the American people about what Mueller found, minus protections for witnesses, etc., are released. Schiff is not playing around.
Needless to say, Adam Schiff has the Republicans on the House Intel Committee squirming. He will admonish them with eloquence as he did the other day. He will make sure that there will be no false assertions of innocence on the part of Trump on this if Trump continues to personally attack him with Tweets. There is a new Sheriff in town and his name is Adam Schiff. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:01 AM
DirtEdonE (1,220 posts)
30. Rec for Adam Schiff
But I'm just not getting into this one way or another anymore until I see it with my own eyes.
Last week they forecast a week of warm, dry weather. This week was mostly cold, cloudy and rainy. I've seen enough weather forecasts to know they're only fifty percent accurate at best. I've seen enough of this "investigation" to come to the same conclusion. I'll wait to see what the weather is before getting all hopeful about the forecast just to find out the weather is going to suck anyway. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:44 AM
gldstwmn (3,916 posts)
31. This is why Trump is hysterically
screaming that he's going to close the southern border again. Fucking loon.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 11:49 AM
Pepsidog (5,447 posts)
33. They should play video of the trucks delivering the Star report every 15 minutes. Hammer it home.
Congress should conduct no business until the entire report is released. Schedule nothing except hearing on why the repost should be released. Call Keb Starr and have him testify about the importance of releasing the Mueller report.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 02:30 PM
dchill (31,877 posts)
34. Adam Schiff. We should keep him around.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 03:44 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (19,729 posts)
36. Schiff acknowledged and appreciated the public support
Rep. Schiff took note of how much public support he received after the Repugs attacked him all week.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:43 PM
pdsimdars (6,007 posts)
37. I am loving this new strength. We want people to fight for us against these evil ones.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2019, 05:52 PM
oldsoftie (9,021 posts)
38. But Trump keeps saying "release the report!" So do the President's bidding!
Whatever is legal, release it.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 07:37 AM
TomVilmer (1,723 posts)
42. History Lesson about a "complete and authentic resume of the report"
Last edited Sun Mar 31, 2019, 08:07 AM - Edit history (1) ... With his modern sense of public relations, he understood brilliantly that what matters, often, is less the substance of a political event than how the public perceives it. He also knew that journalists dread having to digest a long official report when writing against a tight deadline. These slightly truncated words about a corrupt leader of a country misleading the press, is a story from the beginning of the last century, described in the very good book "King Leopold's Ghost": ![]() |