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nvme

(860 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:05 PM Apr 2019

Why haven't we heard from Mueller himself?

I am not that savvy, I am busy trying to write a dessertation. So, can anyone 'splain to me why he has not said a word. It has been a weak since Barr Farted out the 4 paige piece of shit that he was hired for. I really would like to hear from Mueller.
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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
1. Because he is subject to the Special Counsel law, which requires him to report directly to the
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:08 PM
Apr 2019

Attorney General, not to the House, the Senate, or the people of the United States.

Unfortunately, the law was written by people who assumed that the AG would not be corrupt. Big mistake.

nvme

(860 posts)
3. I get that but......
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:17 PM
Apr 2019

He delivered the report. So he is forever forbidden from commenting on his work?

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
9. Which imo is an invitation to please, please subpoena him so he can do so.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:33 PM
Apr 2019

I look forward to it.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
7. But, the alternative is an Independent Counsel which is how we got Ken Starr
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:26 PM
Apr 2019

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

machoneman

(3,997 posts)
2. He is wisely awaiting his public Congressional testimony in front of the Democratic majority and...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:10 PM
Apr 2019

...the press. Speaking now could easily lead to misinterpretation or worse, Republiscums twisting his words. Also, he may be awaiting at least the Gang of Eight and/or the relevant committees getting the report and preparing relevant questions.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
13. To leak the entire thing is to invite a world of hurt.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:26 PM
Apr 2019

It would violate rules on classified material; it would violate rules promulgated by the federal judicial branch to safeguard all kinds of grand jury and other confidential information; it would violate DOJ rules. And many of those are either under authority given the those two branches by the Constitution, or authority granted by the other branch, the legislature. In other words, it should invite all three branches to say, "You just screwed with us and showed us some serious contempt because, well, you just think you're all that."

It's nice to say, "Oooh, Trump hasn't followed the rules." It's another thing to turn around and say, "Well, when we do it, of course it's not just okay, but a great and glorious thing." Even if it is politically the smart thing to do, in the end it treats all three branches like cheap whores for personal political profit.

Yes, when Nadler and Pelosi say otherwise, they know this. They also know that they can posture and be as authoritative and authoritarian as they want because that's free political rhetoric that plays well. Nobody's going to go to jail to comply with their threats, and they're perfectly fine with catch-22s. You get punished for contempt of Congress or, if you avoid that, you get punished for contempt of court, and if you avoid that, you violate the law so that you are now completely impeachable if not subject to mandatory investigation and dismissal. Either way, Barr gets punished, which is a good outcome. It's not a reasonable one, but for some it's completely fair.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
14. So we play by the rules and the report never sees the light of day.
Tue Apr 2, 2019, 11:51 AM
Apr 2019

What is wrong with that picture?

I also am heartily sick of the "That's classified material!" rationale for keeping information from people.

I'm of the opinion that more knowledge is better than less knowledge. Heck, on a very mundane level, the reason people fall for conspiracy theories and anti-vaccination nonsense is because they haven't learned enough history or science or geography or math or whatever to look at the theories and nonsense with a critical eye.

The patting me on the head and saying, "Now, now, little lady. Daddy knows best, and don't bother your pretty little head about these things" is infuriating. Especially when being done to the country as a whole.

nvme

(860 posts)
16. I am foggy on the history
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:48 PM
Apr 2019

But didnt someone leak the white paper about Vietnam? and it damaged our reputation but exposed the wrong-headedness of our continuation of the Vietnam War.

Takket

(21,528 posts)
6. Once the people rescue the report from Barr
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:22 PM
Apr 2019

Mueller will be summoned. Until then what do you ask him if you don’t even know what is in the report?

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
10. Maybe writing it is a sweeter process than the one I experienced...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:40 PM
Apr 2019

...writing my own dissertation.

Anyhow I have become more forgiving of random mispellings by others in the year-plus I have been using an iPad Mini. Only obsessive proofreading saves me from the vagaries of its little keyboard. Plus I had to turn off Spell Check early on because it would crap all over my vocabulary choices.

The wonders and joys of technology never cease.

nvme

(860 posts)
17. So sorry Stinky The Clown
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:53 PM
Apr 2019

I am glad you noted my ob ve us speellin errurs. My dissertation is on the benefits of humor in therapy for oncology patients. So any empirical data you kan provide wood bee welcomed. ;/

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