Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:17 AM
watoos (7,142 posts)
Are Wisconsin's voting machines rigged?
I mean we all knew that Scott Walker was going to get recalled, until he didn't.
Now we all know that the liberal candidate for SC justice is going to beat out the conservative candidate, until it didn't happen. This election was a big deal and will affect politics in Wisconsin for a very long time. Looking for someone from Wisconsin to explain to me what the hell is going on?
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watoos | Apr 2019 | OP |
htuttle | Apr 2019 | #1 | |
Bettie | Apr 2019 | #2 | |
Ellipsis | Apr 2019 | #3 | |
watoos | Apr 2019 | #4 | |
Ellipsis | Apr 2019 | #5 | |
Joe941 | Apr 2019 | #14 | |
Celerity | Apr 2019 | #10 | |
Greybnk48 | Apr 2019 | #11 | |
BlueWI | Apr 2019 | #6 | |
Joe941 | Apr 2019 | #15 | |
BlueWI | Apr 2019 | #16 | |
Joe941 | Apr 2019 | #17 | |
BlueWI | Apr 2019 | #18 | |
Joe941 | Apr 2019 | #19 | |
Poiuyt | Apr 2019 | #7 | |
Hoyt | Apr 2019 | #8 | |
lkinwi | Apr 2019 | #9 | |
Luciferous | Apr 2019 | #12 | |
BSdetect | Apr 2019 | #13 |
Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:20 AM
htuttle (23,738 posts)
1. My wife has thought so for the last 15 years, at least
Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:24 AM
Bettie (15,293 posts)
2. How many are still prevented from voting?
We've seen irregularities over and over.
I doubt everything these days. |
Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:26 AM
Ellipsis (9,074 posts)
3. Shitty fucking turnout.
...and just because Walkers out of office doesn't mean his machine has disappeared.
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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #3)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:30 AM
watoos (7,142 posts)
4. I don't buy it.
Democrats are winning in other states. One just won in a Republican district in Pa.
We need paper ballots. |
Response to watoos (Reply #4)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:34 AM
Ellipsis (9,074 posts)
5. Well I don't really care what you're buying...
If you're asking you don't know.
Spend some time looking at the demographics before you make a statement based off emotion. |
Response to watoos (Reply #4)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:36 AM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
14. I voted in WI - it was a paper ballot and scan machine for me.
I don't know if that is uniform throughout the state or not.
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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #3)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:16 AM
Celerity (39,181 posts)
10. Scott Walker, Finally a Former Governor, Is Still Causing Trouble for Democracy
He has dedicated himself to protecting gerrymandering and voter-suppression schemes.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a26907820/scott-walker-gerrymandering-wisconsin-eric-holder/ |
Response to Ellipsis (Reply #3)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:18 AM
Greybnk48 (10,026 posts)
11. Not in my area!
Our turnout was good (Outagamie county).
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Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:48 AM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
6. There are several factors I think.
The Republican base is motivated nationally. Communication strategies for Democratic candidates have to modernize to motivate a higher percentage of the base.
Spring, off-year election. No coattails from a Senate or presidential race. Rural areas in the Upper Midwest are leaning very strongly towards the GOP. This is a critical fact to keep in mind as we approach 2020. Ohio, Minnesota, Michigan, and WI are all affected by this. Overconfidence. Yes, looking at the qualifications, it should be an easy Democratic win. But IMO, as a whole we as Dems assume too much and don't put enough of the work in to win 50/50 races. Whoever is able to volunteer, work with the county parties, host events, etc. should double up these efforts. Vote suppression. We all have to know the relevant calendar and restrictions on voter registration and make sure our base knows these details. In our blue island county (Eau Claire) the vote was 58% for our candidate. This used to be a more purple county, but an extremely active base keeps it leaning blue. Without sustaining and improving on organizing efforts we could backslide. This is a bellweather for 2020! Time to put the work in!! |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #6)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:38 AM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
15. 58% isn't enough it should be 65%+
Response to Joe941 (Reply #15)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 11:06 AM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
16. Clearly it isn't enough.
But as I mentioned, the GOP has extremely strong support in the rural parts of the county. That's not just a Wisconsin problem, it's a national problem.
In the city elections, we knocked on 12,000 doors in a city of 65,000. Progressive candidates won 4 of 5 city council seats, including the first openly trans woman elected to office in WI history. So I am proud of these efforts, but it isn't enough. What if in every race, we knocked on 1 of 5 doors in the entire city, focusing on potential Democratic voters? It would make a difference. What are you doing or plan to do to maximize your turnout and expand the local base, given the realities of GOP current support in rural areas? |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #16)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:02 PM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
17. I voted in WI, but I did not volunteer...
The election results were disappointing of course. Maybe I should be doing more...
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Response to Joe941 (Reply #17)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:42 PM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
18. I need to do more also.
For the spring election, I helped host two parties for City Council candidates, donated, and did some door knocking, for one weekend. Now we all have to help them maintain the support they received during the election.
This is more than I normally do. But given the legislative map in Wisconsin, we need to make some hay in 2020 of any year. I am tired of Republicans winning too many of the statewide races, and the stakes are getting higher. |
Response to BlueWI (Reply #18)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:18 PM
Joe941 (2,848 posts)
19. You are doing more than your share I think.
Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:56 AM
Poiuyt (17,860 posts)
7. There have been questions about voting irregularities in Waukesha County for years
Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:12 AM
Hoyt (54,770 posts)
8. Not a Wisconsin expert, but Democrats did relatively well in 2018.
Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:15 AM
lkinwi (1,476 posts)
9. Dane county came through as usual, but we needed more from Bayfield, LaCrosse and Milwaukee.
Crappy turnout.😢
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Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:21 AM
Luciferous (5,933 posts)
12. When I went to vote yesterday I was number 120 and this was in the afternoon. I think
turnout was low in our area, but I also live in a very red county so I'm not surprised this area went for the nutjob.
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Response to watoos (Original post)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 10:25 AM
BSdetect (8,962 posts)
13. Every state should have the same policies re voting.
Auto enrollments at 18
Paper ballots Early voting. Postal voting. Same registration requirements. No gerrymandering. Sufficient polling booths. Same voting hours on polling days. Etc |