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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:17 AM Apr 2019

This is a blatant, in our face, kiss my ass American people, cover up by Barr.

No wonder I got so angry. It would have been helpful for my sanity if Mueller had not waited ten fucking days to say something. What the fuck is Mueller doing?

This whole process has failed. It's completely corrupt.

After Barr releases his redacted report the Democrats should go after him with everything they got. Put him and Mueller under oath. They have to do this because the process has been corrupted.

We may learn the Mueller report was meant to go to Congress for impeachment consideration. That would make sense.

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This is a blatant, in our face, kiss my ass American people, cover up by Barr. (Original Post) shockey80 Apr 2019 OP
It will all come out. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #1
Lock 'em up Botany Apr 2019 #2
Yes. I just don't understand Barr's end game. Is it to be AG until 2024? Buckeyeblue Apr 2019 #3
He protects Republicans. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #19
But trump isn't a Republican Buckeyeblue Apr 2019 #20
He is. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #23
Trump thinks Barr is HIS personal lawyer??????? ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #4
The next step is to declare "executive privilege" for Barr and Mueller.... kentuck Apr 2019 #5
We're dealing with traitors and sociopaths. dalton99a Apr 2019 #6
Yup. And pathological liars. It runs bone deep. Guilded Lilly Apr 2019 #7
I think it also 2naSalit Apr 2019 #8
"I think it also implicates(sic) that many of our Congresscritters are also implicated." pangaia Apr 2019 #18
I think this is 2naSalit Apr 2019 #25
Everyone, incl. Mueller, knew that his report would not to Congress. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #9
Except what Barr wrote is not a summary. raging moderate Apr 2019 #13
Book Him, Dano Dirty Socialist Apr 2019 #10
What we are hearing strongly suggests impeachment evidence (Trump & Barr). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #11
It is a specious whitewash. raging moderate Apr 2019 #12
Like I said yesterday, they could have shredded it and gave us the finger directly. Initech Apr 2019 #14
It's also a stall as Mitch McConnell packs the courts with pro-corporate judges Auggie Apr 2019 #15
Its a stall to let it fade from the public's mind. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #24
Maybe. They want the judges. I don't think they give a fuck about Trump ... Auggie Apr 2019 #28
I'd enjoy seeing that. maxsolomon Apr 2019 #29
Did we expect anything less volstork Apr 2019 #16
Barr is this generation's John Mitchell. muntrv Apr 2019 #17
And we know what happened to John Mitchell. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #27
It is self-immolation on his part Mr Tibbs Apr 2019 #21
Today we were treated to an outright lie by Barr. He said that what he was given had Karadeniz Apr 2019 #22
in ben stein voice: mueller...mueller... mueller? Kurt V. Apr 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #30
They waited for Congress' April 2nd deadline green917 Apr 2019 #31
+100 Duppers Apr 2019 #32
What makes me really angry Aussie105 Apr 2019 #33
You are correct. spanone Apr 2019 #34
I was wondering myself the last time I got this angry. airplaneman Apr 2019 #35
This is what it looks like when the full weight and power of the white house and senate are wiggs Apr 2019 #36

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
1. It will all come out.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:19 AM
Apr 2019

Barr is turning out to be an even worse toady than I expected but I was heartened to see that the leaking has already started.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
2. Lock 'em up
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:21 AM
Apr 2019



The report was prepared “so that the front matter from each section could have been released immediately — or very quickly,” the official said. “It was done in a way that minimum redactions, if any, would have been necessary, and the work would have spoken for itself.”

Mueller’s team assumed the information was going to be made available to the public, the official said, “and so they prepared their summaries to be shared in their own words — and not in the attorney general’s summary of their work, as turned out to be the case.”

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
3. Yes. I just don't understand Barr's end game. Is it to be AG until 2024?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:23 AM
Apr 2019

Is it that simple? Because protecting 45 seems to fly in the face of his loyalty to the Bush family.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
19. He protects Republicans.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:09 PM
Apr 2019

The unvarnished truth will damage the party for a generation (I don't think that, but he apparently does).

Party over Country.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
20. But trump isn't a Republican
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:21 PM
Apr 2019

It's like they are all afraid to cross him. He must have some primo dirt on the establishment.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
4. Trump thinks Barr is HIS personal lawyer???????
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:57 AM
Apr 2019

Trump is going to find out the hard way once Barr is compelled to testify before the Judiciary Committee, come subpoena, or be held in contempt of Congress.

kentuck

(111,074 posts)
5. The next step is to declare "executive privilege" for Barr and Mueller....
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019

to keep either one from answering questions from Congress.

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
8. I think it also
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:33 AM
Apr 2019

implicates that many of our Congresscritters are also implicated and that could put mitch right out of power in a day, along with others like lindsey g. that would change the landscape at an inopportune time for them.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. "I think it also implicates(sic) that many of our Congresscritters are also implicated."
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:48 AM
Apr 2019

DUH! Ya think?





Come on folks, they've been implicated since Reagan....

2naSalit

(86,508 posts)
25. I think this is
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 02:16 PM
Apr 2019

definitive and will certainly end their careers and they know it.

But, yeah, not like they haven't been blatantly obvious for a long time.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Everyone, incl. Mueller, knew that his report would not to Congress.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:37 AM
Apr 2019

The law requires only that the AG issue a summary of the Special Counsel report. This was covered extensively in Barr's hearing for confirmation before the Senate. He flatly refused to say he'd release the report in full, only repeating over and over that he would comply with the law, and the law requires that he issue a summary of the report.

Mueller has already been asked to testify in front of Congress; it was reported that Mueller agreed. I don't know if a date has been set.

I'm suspicious of "the Mueller team" leaking that they are disappointed at Barr's summary misrepresenting the Mueller Report. Since Mueller is going to testify, that would be where he would say that. The Mueller Team has never leaked, that I know of. So although I want to believe this, I am suspicious that the team would leak at this time. Unless they're that ticked off.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
13. Except what Barr wrote is not a summary.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:03 AM
Apr 2019

Barr's four-page cover-up essay contradicts Mueller's description of his report. Barr only reinforced Trump's claim of total exoneration. So, if the law requires a summary, then Barr has not complied with the law.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
12. It is a specious whitewash.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:57 AM
Apr 2019

I doubt that Barr had read Meuller's report when he wrote his four-page fantasy.

Initech

(100,059 posts)
14. Like I said yesterday, they could have shredded it and gave us the finger directly.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:06 AM
Apr 2019

It would save the trouble over all this side-stepping and white washing they're doing to try to bury the report now.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
24. Its a stall to let it fade from the public's mind.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:49 PM
Apr 2019

Delay, delay, delay. Eventually we give up and move on.

The public has the attention span of a gnat.

Auggie

(31,156 posts)
28. Maybe. They want the judges. I don't think they give a fuck about Trump ...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 04:44 PM
Apr 2019

once McConnell, Koch, Putin, etc. are done with Trump they'll will throw him under the bus.

maxsolomon

(33,281 posts)
29. I'd enjoy seeing that.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 04:47 PM
Apr 2019

But he's too useful to them right now - drawing attention away from their machinations.

volstork

(5,399 posts)
16. Did we expect anything less
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:28 AM
Apr 2019

from this asshole? He was specifically chosen in order to throw up any possible roadblock to the full report getting out.

There's a precedent fo this, however.

Two words: Pentagon Papers

 

Mr Tibbs

(539 posts)
21. It is self-immolation on his part
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:36 PM
Apr 2019

He obviously lied to Congress, thinking that would be enough and that he could just bury it. But this is about the president, and things like this don't get buried they come out. He sacrificed himself for nothing

Karadeniz

(22,490 posts)
22. Today we were treated to an outright lie by Barr. He said that what he was given had
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:46 PM
Apr 2019

material that needed to be edited. That contradicts the Mueller leakers who said they'd provided summaries to be passed on, as the special counsel's instructions dictate. I'm sure the high quality investigators Mueller hired knew how to handle classified material, duh. Barr didn't have to do anything except basically rubber stamp it. He's been way out of line.

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

green917

(442 posts)
31. They waited for Congress' April 2nd deadline
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:01 PM
Apr 2019

The reason they waited to say anything was because the Congress gave their boss (AG Barr) until April 2nd to produce the report. That is why they waited until April 3rd to come forward, after he didn't produce it. It has been my thought that Barr wrote his 2nd letter to Congress, walking back his earlier declaration that the 4 pages he submitted to Congress 48 hours after the Mueller report was initially given to him, was due to either Mueller himself or members of his team speaking to Barr and telling him that he either needed to walk back the "total exoneration" finding from his "summary" (which he then stated was not a summary) or they would begin leaking their own summaries which have now been reported to exist. This is HUGE news for a number of reasons. First of all, Mueller's team has been the most tight-lipped investigation in modern history so, for these members of the investigation to come forward and make the statements they now have, is earth shattering for the President (and probably for AG Barr as well). Second of all, they state in no uncertain terms that Barr's initial "summary" of the report (as most of us here at DU suspected) whitewashed the President's exposure and malfeasance to a great degree. This is devastating for the President because now, I believe that, even if Barr attempts to continue to hold back the pertinent parts of the report (the Grand Jury information for instance), it will be leaked because the members of Mueller's team wont stand for the cover up, nor should they!

Aussie105

(5,366 posts)
33. What makes me really angry
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 08:33 AM
Apr 2019

is how Trump has managed, over the last 50 or 60 years, to corrupt so many people.

Mueller picked out a few, but the scant regard for the welfare of the common people, the respect and observance of the values in the Constitution as well as the lip service paid to religious values, amongst so many, beggars belief.

Is enriching and advancing yourself so important to some people that standards of civilized behaviour are simply discarded?

Is Trump the product of a corrupt society, or has his excesses in corruption simply brought it all to light?

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
36. This is what it looks like when the full weight and power of the white house and senate are
Sun Apr 7, 2019, 02:17 AM
Apr 2019

used for corrupt purposes. Along with the awesome power of many of the world's oligarchs.

We've never seen this before, and it seems to me that it's a close call as to who is going to win...

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