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Cary

(11,746 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:42 AM Apr 2019

I don't get, why would Barr cover up?

He is so stupid to think he has a chance of keeping the report under wraps? How arrogant is this man? One way or another it will all come out and Barr is disgraced. The audacity and stupidity of Republicans takes my breath away.

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I don't get, why would Barr cover up? (Original Post) Cary Apr 2019 OP
Because they are Republicans. Shell_Seas Apr 2019 #1
And he's a very conservative Catholic I think. Fascist friendly SharonAnn Apr 2019 #46
Arrogance and the most partisan ideology. He got by with doing similar during Iran Contra so... hlthe2b Apr 2019 #2
Bingo. (nt) JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #16
Must have burned through all that ca$h 2naSalit Apr 2019 #35
+1 Docreed2003 Apr 2019 #62
why would Barr cover up? He is a RWNJ . stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #3
Either someone has something on him or they've promised him something. Hugin Apr 2019 #4
Barr's son works in the White House NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #12
Interesting line of thought, NewJeffCT. Hugin Apr 2019 #31
+1000 Pachamama Apr 2019 #15
+1 Follow the money and power.... mitch96 Apr 2019 #38
rethugs think they are untouchable. democratisphere Apr 2019 #5
Sure seems like it Cary Apr 2019 #49
Yes Hugin pdxflyboy Apr 2019 #6
Barr still MyOwnPeace Apr 2019 #7
Because that is what Trump hired him to do Freethinker65 Apr 2019 #8
How do you think he got the job as AG? MiniMe Apr 2019 #9
They will probably succeed at keeping the report under wraps Recursion Apr 2019 #10
He's a lawyer. Jarqui Apr 2019 #11
I'm hoping the investigators expose the investigation. TxVietVet Apr 2019 #19
I think it's a long shot but I was hoping for that very thing ... Jarqui Apr 2019 #27
He's ideological... kentuck Apr 2019 #13
I think they were betting on a pretty big bounce... jcgoldie Apr 2019 #14
Conservanazis believe that they have the right to rule over the US. TxVietVet Apr 2019 #17
Especially true of very conservative Catholic men. And some women. SharonAnn Apr 2019 #47
Saw reference to Barr's wife and bible study [you tube] empedocles Apr 2019 #60
There is an old saying in the Army... berni_mccoy Apr 2019 #18
Why risk it on this moron? Cary Apr 2019 #50
A less evil but still terrible possibility ChicagoRonin Apr 2019 #20
This. marylandblue Apr 2019 #23
"Though they don't realize their concept of the 'greater good' is entirely subjective...." doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #41
Ironically when Trump picks himself up and dusts DeminPennswoods Apr 2019 #21
your question presumes his goal was to keep it all a secret. that's not his goal. unblock Apr 2019 #22
"Brazen it out" has been a winning strategy for a couple of decades now JHB Apr 2019 #24
Its because the goal is to protect the GOP ScratchCat Apr 2019 #25
I'm confused about that too Buckeyeblue Apr 2019 #26
Never overestimate a trump employee. (nt) Paladin Apr 2019 #28
I think the goal was to discredit the actual findings, so if and when the full report is catbyte Apr 2019 #29
Would Barr be guilty of conspiracy in a coverup of vital facts from the Mueller report? Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #30
What he did in Iran Contragate worked janterry Apr 2019 #32
They got away with cheating Gore in 2000. Yavin4 Apr 2019 #33
And Barr got away with the Iran-Contra coverup. nt tblue37 Apr 2019 #37
I tried to limit the cheating to this century Yavin4 Apr 2019 #43
Getting the political win was a big deal... zaj Apr 2019 #34
IOKIYAR, so no lasting harm will come to him. nt tblue37 Apr 2019 #36
He knows he can get away with it dustyscamp Apr 2019 #39
He and Mueller are besties. GeorgeGist Apr 2019 #40
Some compelling reasons: COLGATE4 Apr 2019 #42
Barr ... COULD... be a True Believer like Hitlers homey Himmler uponit7771 Apr 2019 #44
so far he's doing what Trump appointed him to do. librechik Apr 2019 #45
It is just cheesy theater to pacify the nut while the paddy wagons are circled. WyattKansas Apr 2019 #48
That is his job. n/t mia Apr 2019 #51
You seem to think they have some great master plan Downtown Hound Apr 2019 #52
Supreme court offer dangled in front of him? mercuryblues Apr 2019 #53
The only thing I can really think of he is trying to protect the RepubliCON establishment, not UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #54
Some of these RW yahoos are so dedicated to Ilsa Apr 2019 #55
He thought it would fly...just turning in his summary, which is all that's required by law. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #56
Republicans whores going to whore. dem4decades Apr 2019 #57
Because it's worked so well for them in the past--Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dubya... Hassler Apr 2019 #58
He's a party loyalist. He's 70 years old and he knows toddwv Apr 2019 #59
Google "Barr Time-Warner merger", and it will tell you all you need to know. GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #61
Thanks, good info Cary Apr 2019 #68
He's an autocrat. They think their word must be accepted as gospel. Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #63
And his cult leader is a moron Cary Apr 2019 #66
That too. Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #67
I think he's doing it because it's about much more than Trump. It involves others in the Republican jalan48 Apr 2019 #64
It isn't going to work Cary Apr 2019 #65

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
46. And he's a very conservative Catholic I think. Fascist friendly
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 01:36 PM
Apr 2019

Very conservative Catholic men seem to be so drunk on authoritarianism and their God-given "rights" that they're extremely Fascist friendly. It's a special kind of sickness.
Spain under Gen. Franco
Peru under Fujimori
Chile under Pinochet

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
35. Must have burned through all that ca$h
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:23 AM
Apr 2019

and needs to get some more dirty money for retirement and just to be in the game.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
4. Either someone has something on him or they've promised him something.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:44 AM
Apr 2019

Nobody does something like that out of pure ideology.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. Barr's son works in the White House
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:51 AM
Apr 2019

and his daughter works for Treasury.

Maybe one, or both, had their jobs/reputations threatened? Or, maybe they were promised promotions?

Also possible Barr thought he could tie up the full release in the courts until after the 2020 election and he can quietly resign not long afterwards.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
31. Interesting line of thought, NewJeffCT.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:12 AM
Apr 2019

Things to ponder...

Especially, given the the Trump/Kennedy/Kennedy's son as Trump's "Personal Banker" @ Deutche Bank conjunction.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
15. +1000
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

My thoughts too - why would a man his age come out of retirement so suddenly and to place himself in this position?

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
38. +1 Follow the money and power....
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:38 AM
Apr 2019

Either he and his got a big payoff or someone in his family/friends got a cush position..
It would be interesting to see his or his families bank accounts for a influx of $$$..
Then again Kompromat could be a reason also... Lindsay are you listening???
m

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
7. Barr still
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019

drinks the Kool-Aid. He "knows" his boss will cover for him when the pressure is on!
(Ask Sessions how that worked out for him...........)

Freethinker65

(10,012 posts)
8. Because that is what Trump hired him to do
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019

He got the job nomination by pledging loyalty to Trump, not by pledging to be an independent national AG.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
9. How do you think he got the job as AG?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:49 AM
Apr 2019

He wrote something that said the Mueller probe should be stopped. tRump seems to only do things that benefit himself

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
11. He's a lawyer.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:49 AM
Apr 2019

He knows he can appeal legal action right up to the Supreme Court.

He's probably trying to run out the clock before 2020 - throwing all kinds of "legal questions" at the judges along the way to the conservative SCOTUS.

He should fail. I hope he fails.
But they have quite a few cards yet to play to drag this out.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
14. I think they were betting on a pretty big bounce...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

They did get really favorable coverage in the media for a week and ran around doing victory laps to influence the narrative. Usually when details trickle out in the aftermath of a big story like this their impact pales in comparison to the effect of the initial story. They are probably correct in that assumption unfortunately, but on the bright side the fake summary doesn't seem to have moved the needle much for him in the polls. They have definitely been successful in muddying the waters so that instead of shocking headlines over Trump's crimes uncovered by the vaunted Mueller investigation we are more likely to get trickles and a bunch of he said she said that dulls the impact.

TxVietVet

(1,905 posts)
17. Conservanazis believe that they have the right to rule over the US.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:56 AM
Apr 2019

They believe that they are above the law. They are granted these rights under their god and conservanazism. When they are exposed for their hypocrisy and immorality, they believe that their party will save them.

Conservanazis cannot live under the same rules that they want to be applied to other citizens.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
60. Saw reference to Barr's wife and bible study [you tube]
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:58 PM
Apr 2019

Bible study may be fairly 'serious' stuff - not common among Catholics I don't think.

Abortions? 'Ends justify the means'?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
18. There is an old saying in the Army...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:56 AM
Apr 2019

"If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying."

That's the reality of it. These people will lie, cheat and steal to get their way. Why would Barr make any exception to that rule?

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
20. A less evil but still terrible possibility
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019

I think a large number of people in any community, in any peer group, in any profession has a reflexible need to maintain and protect the status quo. And I'm not just talking about those receiving an outsized amount of privilege and benefits. There are those who truly believe that established order and structure must be maintained at all costs for the greater good (Though they don't realize their concept of "the greater good" is entirely subjective and possibly selfish). They don't like things being ruffled by challenges to their idea of authority (even if corrupt in practice), the disruptive nature of scientific discoveries or technical innovation, or radical attempts to redress long-standing inequities.

And so, it is in their nature, to delete, deny, subtract, redact, suppress and inhibit anything they deem discomforting. Every inconvenient truth, every fact that doesn't support their worldview or policymaking, every contrary opinion.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
23. This.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:02 AM
Apr 2019

Especially when it comes to leadership. People will follow a bad leader to the death simply because he is the leader and they are the followers.

And sometimes, they don"t even die. So don't assume this strategy is a failure just because it seems so strange.

 

doompatrol39

(428 posts)
41. "Though they don't realize their concept of the 'greater good' is entirely subjective...."
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:50 AM
Apr 2019

"...and possibly selfish."

We're seeing that in real time, right here on DU.

DeminPennswoods

(15,284 posts)
21. Ironically when Trump picks himself up and dusts
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:01 AM
Apr 2019

himself off like nothing happened, whatever good part of Barr's reputation there is will be in tatters, never to be regained. He wull live out his life in infamy, like Robert McNamara.

unblock

(52,204 posts)
22. your question presumes his goal was to keep it all a secret. that's not his goal.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:01 AM
Apr 2019

he knows it will come out, just as the iran-contra story eventually came out.

his goal is to get away with it.

all he's trying to do is set the stage for barely politically viable pardons and contain the electoral damage for republicans.

he'd keep it secret if he could, but he's ok with it coming out if it has to.

he can still help the criminals get away with it, and that's what he aims to do.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
24. "Brazen it out" has been a winning strategy for a couple of decades now
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:03 AM
Apr 2019

Those decades happen to span Barr's entire career.

Time for it to end. Long past time.

ScratchCat

(1,988 posts)
25. Its because the goal is to protect the GOP
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:07 AM
Apr 2019

They allowed Trump to get the nomination, and its all about protecting their brand. The last POTUS to face impeachment had a (D) next to his name, and they want to keep it that way. Keep in mind that their fervor for the Clinton impeachment was influenced by Nixon(R) being the last to face it. Its all a "game" to them where "their side" has to be portrayed as "the good guys". Everything else be damned, "we are the good guys, you are the bad guys". Its not just "political differences" with most of them - they have framed the conversation with the terms that everybody who doesn't agree with them are "bad people". So here you have a report which will show that the GOP should have never allowed Trump to even be the nominee, and therefore.... "protect the brand, Billy, protect the brand".

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
26. I'm confused about that too
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:07 AM
Apr 2019

It would make sense if 45 was an establishment candidate. But he continually insults the establishment. I would think Barr has deep loyalties to the Bush family. But maybe he doesn't. Maybe this is all hubris on his part to see if he can make it go away. Never discount the influence of the ego....

catbyte

(34,375 posts)
29. I think the goal was to discredit the actual findings, so if and when the full report is
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:10 AM
Apr 2019

released, people who don't pay attention won't notice or won't care.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
32. What he did in Iran Contragate worked
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:12 AM
Apr 2019

I have no doubt that every word that he is writing is true. Sure, he's manipulative. But he's also smart -

I really hope he fails this time around.....but I'm just going to wait and watch, for now.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
33. They got away with cheating Gore in 2000.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:16 AM
Apr 2019

They got away with being asleep at the wheel before 9/11.

They got away with starting a war in Iraq on bald face lies.

They got away with the financial crisis and bank bailouts.

They got away with not working with Obama on addressing the fiscal crisis of 2008 and the healthcare crisis.

They got away with Trump working with the Russians.

They got away with the worst president in the modern era.


What on earth makes you think that they won't get away with suppressing this repot?

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
43. I tried to limit the cheating to this century
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 12:06 PM
Apr 2019

Otherwise, I could back to Nixon, and I would still be writing the post.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
34. Getting the political win was a big deal...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:16 AM
Apr 2019

... because most Americans only get the first pass at a story. So for make Americans now, Trump was vindicated by Mueller. And for many Trump supporters, T they believe deeply and n passionately that Trump is a victim.

That last part is always they key to hearing the meaning of Trump taking points.

If he ever loses his base he's a goner. And he knows that

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
42. Some compelling reasons:
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:19 AM
Apr 2019

1- He's an old (30 years +) friend of Mueller
2- He (Barr) has done it before. See Iran-Contra re George Bush Sr.
3- He got his job by showing Trump he could (and would) do it
4- He's a Republican

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
48. It is just cheesy theater to pacify the nut while the paddy wagons are circled.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 01:51 PM
Apr 2019

Instead of ripping the band aid off with the report, the Republicans that control the report at the moment know the truth will have to come out. So, a lot of maneuvering is going on behind the scenes by Republicans to reduce their political damage and to give them a red meat screech that the Democrats attacked and got rid of another Republican President to prevent the right things being done in this country.

Why do you think Turtle is going nuclear to get as many republicans appointed as quickly as possible?... To fuck over the 99% as much as possible before the crash.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
52. You seem to think they have some great master plan
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:26 PM
Apr 2019

They do not. They are reacting to fires as they pop up, and they continue to pop up. Barr covered it up because it's what trump put him there to do. That it's a pathetic cover up doesn't change the fact that it's still better for them then actually releasing the report.

Basically they're doing whatever they can at this point trying to stay above water. Because they've got nothing left.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
54. The only thing I can really think of he is trying to protect the RepubliCON establishment, not
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:27 PM
Apr 2019

so much rump himself, that's a byproduct. I mean all this rump scandal is bad for the party. The head of the scum party is a Russian ass-hat? I mean WTF...something must be done. Who knows maybe old mitch gave him a call and said listen apply for this job and we all know how easy we can hook this orange whale with just a little worm.

I can't imagine why else he would want to be doing all this. IT'S NOT EVEN A GOOD COVER UP FOR FUCKS SAKE.
I don't think the Mueller report can be covered up...it would have to redacted to within an inch of it's life.

Rump and corrupt co are in big fucking trouble...in super slow motion.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
55. Some of these RW yahoos are so dedicated to
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:30 PM
Apr 2019

their ugly, inhumane agendas, they would gladly die upon the sword of temporary ignominy if their plan wins out in the end. 

If someone like Barr can lie, cheat, and steal to accomplish drowning govt in a bathtub, they will gladly say the end justifies the means, and believe they will eventually be revered.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
56. He thought it would fly...just turning in his summary, which is all that's required by law.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019

But oops....the Democrats and even a lot of Republicans and the public made a stink about not seeing the report itself.

It's obvious why he portrayed the report like he did: to exonerate Trump from the stain of collusion and obstruction.

Hassler

(3,376 posts)
58. Because it's worked so well for them in the past--Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Dubya...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:37 PM
Apr 2019

And Barr was there for all of it.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
59. He's a party loyalist. He's 70 years old and he knows
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:57 PM
Apr 2019

that the worst think that will happen to him is that he takes a PR hit for the team and then gets a regular speaking gig on Fox News.

His job was kill the Mueller investigation, get something out in the wild that lets them pretend that Trump is exonerated, and then drag his feet about releasing the rest of the report.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
61. Google "Barr Time-Warner merger", and it will tell you all you need to know.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:59 PM
Apr 2019

That was the main reason he wanted the job, which he wouldn't have gotten, had he not promised Trump that he'd give him whatever else he wanted.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
63. He's an autocrat. They think their word must be accepted as gospel.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:29 PM
Apr 2019

Barr overlooked one important fact: This is not the eighties.

jalan48

(13,860 posts)
64. I think he's doing it because it's about much more than Trump. It involves others in the Republican
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:48 PM
Apr 2019

Party as well. If the real story gets out to the public it could really damage the Republicans and Barr is there to keep this from happening.

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