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jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:38 PM Apr 2019

The GOP is headed toward Decree 770

Decree 770 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770) was Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu’s anti abortion law. It required every woman to submit to a gynecological exam every month, tracked all detected pregnancies, banned both contraception and abortion, and forced a police investigation (by a special abortion police force that consumed half the country’s GDP) for miscarriages, which were treated as illegal abortions.

Incidentally, after the Ceausescus were executed (by a firing squad for which over 3000 soldiers volunteered) the first act of the new government was to repeal Decree 770. Its second act was to abolish capital punishment.

With news Texas wants to execute women who receive abortions, we’re headed right back down that road here in America.

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The GOP is headed toward Decree 770 (Original Post) jmowreader Apr 2019 OP
"Small government", huh? Moostache Apr 2019 #1
They do want a government so small mercuryblues Apr 2019 #10
... brer cat Apr 2019 #34
The chances this actually passes into law is extremely slim. bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #2
Agreed Crabby Appleton Apr 2019 #11
The fact that it has even been presented is scary enough. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #12
Yes, and Trump could NEVER be elected. . . hatrack Apr 2019 #18
One insane event occurring doesn't increase the possibility of another. bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #19
When it's part of a general trend of stupidity, magical thinking and rage . . . hatrack Apr 2019 #22
Of course, you're right. mountain grammy Apr 2019 #21
Kickin' with disgust Faux pas Apr 2019 #3
Texas Male lawmakers had best be prepared to EXECUTE their..... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2019 #4
It's hard to believe that I'm living in America. This is scratch your head insane. Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #5
perhaps also, for those women who choose not to have children, anarch Apr 2019 #6
As long as they are white. Ohiogal Apr 2019 #8
Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion CrispyQ Apr 2019 #7
Why aren't more young people Ohiogal Apr 2019 #9
That's what baffles me. They have so much more to lose than those of us who don't have smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #16
Well said. Ohiogal Apr 2019 #25
Well, than women will sterilize themselves. Problem solved. BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #13
And run for office and take over all positions of these misogynist men. notdarkyet Apr 2019 #23
we have been headed down that road since Roe. law by law, drip, drip, drip. niyad Apr 2019 #14
I can just imagine Cheeto yelling "Alo! Alo!" as his crowds dispersed due to gunfire. sandensea Apr 2019 #15
Decree 770 exceptions LiberalArkie Apr 2019 #17
You know how he ended up... eleny Apr 2019 #20
If only... smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #33
Repeat ....A proposed law..is NOT LAW...this is definition of word: proposed.. Stuart G Apr 2019 #24
The fact that it is even PROPOSED is incredibly fucked up. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #32
"Texas" does't want to execute women Wabbajack_ Apr 2019 #26
Thanks! Anyone have a link? nt Duppers Apr 2019 #27
Here u go Wabbajack_ Apr 2019 #30
Thank you! Duppers Apr 2019 #31
And who keeps electing them? hatrack Apr 2019 #35
What's Next? Public Stoning? dlk Apr 2019 #28
Just How many women does the GOP WANT to slaughter? yuiyoshida Apr 2019 #29
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. The fact that it has even been presented is scary enough.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:25 PM
Apr 2019

I put nothing past these people. Nothing. Get enough of them in power and eventually, it will pass.

hatrack

(59,566 posts)
18. Yes, and Trump could NEVER be elected. . .
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:00 PM
Apr 2019

He's so obviously unqualified. American voters know better!!

hatrack

(59,566 posts)
22. When it's part of a general trend of stupidity, magical thinking and rage . . .
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:08 PM
Apr 2019

Let's just say that it fits.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
21. Of course, you're right.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

But the slope is getting pretty slippery. I can only imagine what's at the bottom.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,699 posts)
4. Texas Male lawmakers had best be prepared to EXECUTE their.....
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 12:50 PM
Apr 2019

Wives, Daughters, Granddaughters, and Nieces then. NO exceptions.......

Texas voters need to shout that LOUD and CLEAR.....

anarch

(6,535 posts)
6. perhaps also, for those women who choose not to have children,
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:09 PM
Apr 2019

there will be a special police squad to forcibly impregnate them in the name of the Great Orange One's empire, and the offspring can then be taken and put into one of the work camps, or if they are strong male children, sent off to the legions.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)
7. Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:35 PM
Apr 2019

I will post this in every abortion thread that I come across. I do not understand why this isn't a major argument with the pro-choice groups.


2010
Forced Labor, Revisited: The Thirteenth Amendment and Abortion
Andrew Koppelman
Northwestern University School of Law, akoppelman@law.northwestern.edu

https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1031&context=facultyworkingpapers


I. The basic argument
The Thirteenth Amendment reads as follows:

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


My claim is that the amendment is violated by laws that prohibit abortion. When women are compelled to carry and bear children, they are subjected to "involuntary servitude" in violation of the amendment. Abortion prohibitions violate the Amendment's guarantee of personal liberty, because forced pregnancy and childbirth, by compelling the woman to serve the fetus, creates "that control by which the personal service of one man [sic] is disposed of or coerced for another's benefit which is the essence of involuntary servitude."6

Such laws violate the amendment's guarantee of equality, because forcing women to be mothers makes them into a servant caste, a group which, by virtue of a status of birth, is held subject to a special duty to serve others and not themselves.


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Parents can't be compelled to donate their organs to their child, even to save the child's life. Why does a fetus have more claim on a woman's body & life, than her child who has been born?

Ohiogal

(31,895 posts)
9. Why aren't more young people
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 01:51 PM
Apr 2019

putting up a tsunami of opposition to these cruel, misogynistic proposals?

I have donated to PP myself ... but it’s seems like so many younger folks are apathetic to this issue. Or have I been missing something.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. That's what baffles me. They have so much more to lose than those of us who don't have
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019

to worry about getting pregnant anymore. I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone. There is a fresh new hell every day and nobody seems to be as concerned as they should be. People should be freaking out by this shit-show and I am not seeing an appropriate reaction from politicians or by the sane voting public.

BigmanPigman

(51,560 posts)
13. Well, than women will sterilize themselves. Problem solved.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:29 PM
Apr 2019

Zero population growth should teach men how to respect and value their "female baby making machines".

That's what I would do.

sandensea

(21,595 posts)
15. I can just imagine Cheeto yelling "Alo! Alo!" as his crowds dispersed due to gunfire.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019

Although in the case of a GOPee crowd, it would probably be because some yahoo touched some gun humper's girlfriend on the derrière.



The incident starts at 1:20.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
17. Decree 770 exceptions
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 02:57 PM
Apr 2019

In October 1966,[1] Decree 770 was authorized by Ceaușescu. Abortion and contraception were declared illegal, except for:

women over 45 (later lowered to 40)
women who had already borne four children (later raised to five)
women whose life would be threatened by carrying to term, due to medical complications
women who were pregnant through rape and/or incest

Stuart G

(38,407 posts)
24. Repeat ....A proposed law..is NOT LAW...this is definition of word: proposed..
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 03:15 PM
Apr 2019

definition of proposed, from goggle:

put forward (an idea or plan) for consideration or discussion by others.
"he proposed a new nine-point peace plan"


synonyms: put forward, suggest, advance, offer, present, move, submit, prefer, file, lodge, table, initiate, bring, bring forward, come up with, tender, bid, project, recommend, advocate, propound, proffer, posit
"we could propose a simpler system"

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
32. The fact that it is even PROPOSED is incredibly fucked up.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:00 PM
Apr 2019

And I seriously wonder about anyone who doesn't find that alarming.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
29. Just How many women does the GOP WANT to slaughter?
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:06 PM
Apr 2019

Hundreds? Thousands? Hundreds of Thousands? There are a lot of women who have had abortions. Are they going to go back and look at records from years past to see how many women "deserve the death penalty?"

The GOP are Monsters. They are Nazis... when "Strange fruit" starts to appear in Trees in Texas its time for women to rise up and work for real change.

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