Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

TygrBright

(20,749 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 04:47 PM Apr 2019

Teh stoopid..!! It BUUUURRNNZZZZ!!!

Is This the Dumbest Moment in Congressional History?

At a House committee hearing Tuesday on “The Need for Leadership to Combat Climate Change and Protect National Security,” the Kentucky Republican thought he could pwn former secretary of state John Kerry. Kerry is an expert on climate change who helped broker the Paris climate accord and recently criticized president Trump for proposing to set up a task force that seeks to counter the scientific consensus on climate change. Massie calls advocates of climate action “alarmists” and believes that the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide is “plant food.”

The transcript of the literally unbelievable exchange follows:

Massie: Sec. Kerry, I want to read part of your statement back to you: “Instead of convening a kangaroo court, the president might want to talk with the educated adults he once trusted his top national security positions.” It sounds like you’re questioning the credentials of the president’s advisers, currently. But I think we should question your credentials today. Isn’t it true you have a science degree from Yale?
Kerry: Bachelor of arts degree.
Massie: Is it a political science degree?
Kerry: Yes, political science.
Massie: So how do you get a bachelor of arts, in a science?
Kerry: Well it’s a liberal arts education and degree. It’s a bachelor…
Massie: OK. So it’s not really science. So I think it’s somewhat appropriate that someone with a pseudo-science degree is here pushing pseudo-science in front of our committee today.
Kerry: Are you serious?! I mean this is really a serious happening here?
Massie: You know what? It is serious. You’re calling the president’s Cabinet a “kangaroo court.” Is that serious?
Kerry: I’m not calling his Cabinet a kangaroo court, I’m calling this committee that he’s putting together a kangaroo committee.
Massie: Are you saying it doesn’t have educated adults now?
Kerry: I don’t know who it has yet because it’s secret.
Massie: Well you said it in your testimony.
Kerry: Why would he have to have a secret analysis of climate change?
Massie: Let’s get back to the science of it.
Kerry: But it’s not science, you’re not quoting science!
Massie: Well, You’re the science expert. You have the political science degree.


Someone's angling after Louie Gohmert's long-held "dumbest mouthbreather in Congress" plaque on the GOP Wall of Shame...

astoundedly,
Bright
42 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Teh stoopid..!! It BUUUURRNNZZZZ!!! (Original Post) TygrBright Apr 2019 OP
Secretary Kerry is basically the Luke Wilson character here. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #1
Exactly... ::weeps:: We are SOOOoooo screwn.... n/t TygrBright Apr 2019 #2
+1000 ... exactly! mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #6
Sadly, Trump is a venal idiot compared to Camacho. hunter Apr 2019 #9
The acting job is all the more admirable when you read about what a brilliant guy Terry Crewes is. Aristus Apr 2019 #37
President Camacho loved and cared about the American people. Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #42
Exactly!!! n/t ewagner Apr 2019 #35
I can't process this nonsense. Glimmer of Hope Apr 2019 #3
OMG. mercuryblues Apr 2019 #4
Who got Massie into MIT? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #5
I Just Sent Massie a Tweet Saying That As An Engineer Myself, I Had Looked Up to MIT--Until Him! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #10
He actually invented some tech, built a company and exited zaj Apr 2019 #12
Worked with an MIT grad and PaulRevere08 Apr 2019 #19
ha ha ha ha ha KayF Apr 2019 #23
Holy jumping Jayzus! mcar Apr 2019 #7
Barney Frank dealt with abject stupidity this way: early in President Obama's first term, Atticus Apr 2019 #8
here's the video in all it's glory. progressoid Apr 2019 #11
What a fucking idiot! smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #16
Mein gott, how does Massie put his pants on every morning without drowning? DRoseDARs Apr 2019 #13
If the secret committee on climate change is paid with tax dollars... Delmette2.0 Apr 2019 #14
He's a f'ing engineer.... paleotn Apr 2019 #15
He doesn't even know the difference between a B.A. and a B.S. smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #17
Playing to his base. yardwork Apr 2019 #38
Oh, don't worry, Tygr, kag Apr 2019 #18
Mocking jerks. Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #20
it's mocking the system KayF Apr 2019 #24
F'ing painful to watch. Kerry did well. And would make a great President. Evolve Dammit Apr 2019 #21
Following the trump model road to the WH. utter lunacy passes as a bludgeon Kurt V. Apr 2019 #22
Massie. Remember that name. babylonsister Apr 2019 #25
What is it with Kentucky?? shanti Apr 2019 #41
When you ask a Repulican, "How stupid can you get?" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2019 #26
"Hold my beer." nt tblue37 Apr 2019 #27
+1 KentuckyWoman Apr 2019 #30
i'm surprised he didn't call out Kerry for having a "bachelor" degree when he is married LOL Takket Apr 2019 #28
Watching his body language is even worse... 2naSalit Apr 2019 #29
It is just staged stupidity. Pablum for the base. applegrove Apr 2019 #31
I'm going to have to go and hide until the election. Stonepounder Apr 2019 #32
In defense of engineers,.... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2019 #33
A woman cannot get a bachelor's degree... it's called a spinster's degree. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #34
Yeah Science! Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #36
If you take someone with an IQ of 88 Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #39
I am in awe at the restraint of John Kerry. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #40

hunter

(38,300 posts)
9. Sadly, Trump is a venal idiot compared to Camacho.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:35 PM
Apr 2019

Does anyone think Trump could do this without blowing his own head off?

Would Trump ever seek out the smartest guy in the world?


Aristus

(66,257 posts)
37. The acting job is all the more admirable when you read about what a brilliant guy Terry Crewes is.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 11:17 AM
Apr 2019

I'd love to have him on that committee.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
42. President Camacho loved and cared about the American people.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:00 PM
Apr 2019

He literally sought out the smartest person he could find to solve the country's hunger problem. It didn't matter if the person he found was smarter than he was. He WANTED that. His massive ego was unbruised by bringing in someone he thought could get that particular job done.

I would take a President Camacho ANY day over Trump.

mercuryblues

(14,519 posts)
4. OMG.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:02 PM
Apr 2019

That has to be the dumbest thing I read in 5 minutes. Massachusetts Institute of Technology needs to revoke his degree for that.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
19. Worked with an MIT grad and
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:57 PM
Apr 2019

While at times he came across rational, he lost me when he said that citizens should be heavily armed to protect them from the government. He stated this as if was obvious as the sky is blue.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
8. Barney Frank dealt with abject stupidity this way: early in President Obama's first term,
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:21 PM
Apr 2019

some ignoramus showed up with a poster depicting the President as Hitler. Barney spotted it and called him out.

"On what planet do you spend most of your time? Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table.--- I have no interest in doing it!"

The only problem was that it likely took several hours and explanations before the bagger "got it".

progressoid

(49,917 posts)
11. here's the video in all it's glory.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 05:36 PM
Apr 2019

By the way, Massie is bragging about this on twitter. He thinks he's brilliant.



 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
13. Mein gott, how does Massie put his pants on every morning without drowning?
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:10 PM
Apr 2019

I'm not saying he's stupid, but there appears to be a non-zero chance of him finding dumb and inexplicable ways of killing himself while doing benign tasks.

Shorter Massie: Bless his heart... *sips tea*

Delmette2.0

(4,156 posts)
14. If the secret committee on climate change is paid with tax dollars...
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:16 PM
Apr 2019

Then the tax payers need to know what they are discussing. Can we have the minutes of their meetings?

paleotn

(17,870 posts)
15. He's a f'ing engineer....
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:22 PM
Apr 2019

No offense to engineers, but they're not climate scientists. It drives me insane when engineers or anyone else who's out of their depth starts stomping their muddy feet all over a discipline they know little about. More often than not it's engineers, but in fairness I heard some quite uninformed statements by Neil deGrasse Tyson about topics in genetics.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. He doesn't even know the difference between a B.A. and a B.S.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019

That is just basic knowledge for most people who have been to college. Is he really this stupid or is he playing to his base?

kag

(4,078 posts)
18. Oh, don't worry, Tygr,
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 06:35 PM
Apr 2019

Louie'll up his game, I'm sure. Fun fact, I grew up in the district that Knuckledragger Gohmert represents. Believe me, he's had plenty of practice conversing with moh-rons where he's from!

Baitball Blogger

(46,658 posts)
20. Mocking jerks.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 07:13 PM
Apr 2019

It's a strategy to mock you, hence your reasoning. God I've seen it done so often. Probably a form of gaslighting.

2naSalit

(86,289 posts)
29. Watching his body language is even worse...
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 10:36 PM
Apr 2019

he's like a bad acting imitation of some Richard Dreyfuss character while spewing his particular brand of ignorance and lack of decorum.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
32. I'm going to have to go and hide until the election.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:29 AM
Apr 2019

This dumb-ass is (theoretically) MY Representative! I'd send him a letter, but I'm afraid he wouldn't understand words like 'dumbshit' and 'shit for brains' and 'you don't have the brains of a Zabrinskian Fotema (sp?)'

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
33. In defense of engineers,....
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019

the best and the brightest can be brainwashed by right-wing politics and/or religious dogma. As an engineer, I've seen it happen a number of times to some brilliant people. Like many so-called Republicans, it begins with a resentment toward taxation.

Engineers are taught relentlessly in school to follow logic and reason and to use scientific thinking in analysis. That training should stay with you for life. No matter whether one is an EE or ME or ChemE for example, engineers will normally use reason and thorough analysis in reaching any conclusion, and they will defer to and reference experts outside their area of science.

That's why a normal engineer would not question climate change research because of it's pedigree and history, and considering its conclusions are backed by thousands of the top experts in that field. The main point to make in discussions is that neither Sec. Kerry or Rep. Massie need to be experts in climate science to respect those conclusions.

Therefore, this hearing strongly suggests Massie has totally drank the GOP Kool-Aid and is simply power hungry like most Repugs. He's shoving aside his good education for the thrill and money of power.

Unfortunately, a sizable percentage of humanity is vulnerable to those evils...... ........

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
34. A woman cannot get a bachelor's degree... it's called a spinster's degree.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:17 AM
Apr 2019

And a PhD can practice medicine.

A woman cannot get a bachelor's degree... it's called a spinster's degree.

A married person cannot get a bachelor's degree.

Mr.Bill

(24,214 posts)
39. If you take someone with an IQ of 88
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:35 PM
Apr 2019

and send them to MIT for four years you will then have someone with a degree from MIT and an IQ of 88.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Teh stoopid..!! It BUUUU...