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What if all the female members of congress stood in solidarity with Ilhan Omar by wearing (Original Post) cornball 24 Apr 2019 OP
I think that would be great. I was originally against the change in rules bitterross Apr 2019 #1
No, no, no, no, NO! Brainstormy Apr 2019 #4
I get your opposition on the basis of religion and oppression. bitterross Apr 2019 #7
Then men should wear it. athena Apr 2019 #19
I think Muslim men wear beanies, don't they? Orth. Jewish men cover their heads. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #24
I wear a scarf wrapped around my head and neck when it's cold. roody Apr 2019 #31
I've had conversations about this with women who wear hijabs loyalsister Apr 2019 #35
No thx Loki Liesmith Apr 2019 #2
I'm afraid I have to agree PatSeg Apr 2019 #5
Hear, hear! Pope George Ringo II Apr 2019 #26
You are most welcome PatSeg Apr 2019 #38
This point is too often overlooked Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #6
I wonder if you are self aware enough to understand the... Humanist_Activist Apr 2019 #10
Not remotely Ron Obvious Apr 2019 #12
You are talking about dictating to people what they are allowed... Humanist_Activist Apr 2019 #23
Exactly, I'm totally opposed! nt Raine Apr 2019 #9
Love that idea!! I stand with Ilhan!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #3
What would the men do? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #8
I don't see how wearing a misogynistic symbol eissa Apr 2019 #11
There are other ways of supporting her that don't involve sky daddies. Coventina Apr 2019 #13
North Carolina's Virginia Foxx in a hijab? SMC22307 Apr 2019 #14
No fucking way would I cover my head because a male dominated religion requires it. Tipperary Apr 2019 #15
Exactly. Merlot Apr 2019 #28
Why don't the male members wear a hijab to show solidarity? athena Apr 2019 #16
Excellent point. I will not be holding my breath lol. Tipperary Apr 2019 #17
Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell say 'Go for it!" Jake Stern Apr 2019 #18
I find it quite insulting that right-wingers attack this woman for no other reason than ForgedCrank Apr 2019 #20
Yes artislife Apr 2019 #21
NO! frogmarch Apr 2019 #22
One does not wear religious garments from another faith, even if the intentions are good. IronLionZion Apr 2019 #25
How about a "I support Ihan Omar" button. Merlot Apr 2019 #27
Lol Lunabell Apr 2019 #29
That would require solidarity. We can dream. roody Apr 2019 #30
how about the Male members of Congress ? JI7 Apr 2019 #32
Regarding my O.P..... cornball 24 Apr 2019 #33
does she deserve support from men also ? JI7 Apr 2019 #37
Hard no. Nobody should be wearing that misogynist scarf Arazi Apr 2019 #34
I would. Most are gorgeous akraven Apr 2019 #36
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
1. I think that would be great. I was originally against the change in rules
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:32 AM
Apr 2019

I was originally against the change in rules for the wearing of headdresses like her hijab because I was ignorant and wrong (I'm a Democrat, not a Republican. So I can admit this). I thought the change was to satisfy only one religion.

The change in rules was far more inclusive of all peoples/religions. It was not made just for her.

I think it would be great for all women to wear a hijab just like they wore white in support of causes.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
4. No, no, no, no, NO!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:51 AM
Apr 2019

The hijab is a religious symbol and, for many, including ex-Muslims, a symbol of female oppression. Would you wear a yamulke to support someone who happened to be Jewish? A habit to support a Catholic woman?

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
7. I get your opposition on the basis of religion and oppression.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:06 AM
Apr 2019

I got my post hidden when she was elected and the rules thing first came up. My post was about not changing the rules because it only supported the oppression of women to allow the hijab in the House. I lost on that front so I'm moving on.

I think we must support rep Omar now. At this point I see a very different issue. Wearing the hijab to support her, personally, and to oppose the personal attacks on HER, is not the same as supporting the wearing of a hijab in general.

Yes, I still believe the wearing of any sort of garb by women that is not required of men is oppression of women. I think it's wrong.

In this special case, though, I think it is proper to do so to show support for her personally and specifically. Not for the custom with which I agree with you is just part of oppression of women.

athena

(4,187 posts)
19. Then men should wear it.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:20 PM
Apr 2019

If you’re so motivated by the idea of showing solidarity by wearing a hijab, why don’t you wear a hijab yourself, rather than telling women how to dress themselves?

There is absolutely no reason why men cannot cover their heads with a headscarf. Indeed, a man doing so would communicate clearly that the hijab does not have to be about female oppression.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
35. I've had conversations about this with women who wear hijabs
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 07:35 PM
Apr 2019

For some it is an empowering act of rebellion.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
2. No thx
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:45 AM
Apr 2019

It’s a symbol of oppression. She wears it willingly, great. But it’s not a practice I’m interested in my party encouraging.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
5. I'm afraid I have to agree
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:57 AM
Apr 2019

As a woman, I find it offensive that a religion requires women to cover their heads. I appreciate that she does it willingly and she looks beautiful in it, but I've seen too many religions that expected certain dress codes for women, but none for the men.

There are Christian sects where the women are expected to dress like it is 1890, bouffant hair, long skirts, and no makeup. It was like a uniform that always set them apart. The men, however, wear contemporary clothes and could fit in anywhere.

No, something that was meant to be oppression for women, should not be imitated or encouraged, though she should be free to wear it if that is what she wants. There certainly are plenty of other ways to show one's support for Omar.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
6. This point is too often overlooked
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 11:01 AM
Apr 2019

Thank you. I'd sooner back a 100% ban on all religious garb for senators and representatives.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
12. Not remotely
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:05 PM
Apr 2019

What I'm referring to applies to both men and women and all religions.

Unlike Islam, I'm not talking about something that applies only to keep women in their place.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
23. You are talking about dictating to people what they are allowed...
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:31 PM
Apr 2019

To wear when it comes to religious headress. Do you not see the irony there. The fact that it wouldnapply to both men and women is irrelevent.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
11. I don't see how wearing a misogynistic symbol
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:05 PM
Apr 2019

of oppression helps anything. Just because Ilhan wears this out of choice/Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t mean the party has to lurch and support this nonsense.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
14. North Carolina's Virginia Foxx in a hijab?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:09 PM
Apr 2019

Good luck with that. Maybe she would, though, one adorned with guns, burning crosses, and Confederate flags.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
15. No fucking way would I cover my head because a male dominated religion requires it.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:11 PM
Apr 2019

Good on her if she wants to willingly do so, but no way no how for any woman who makes her own decisions on how she dresses.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
28. Exactly.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:55 PM
Apr 2019

It's a horrible idea, and not really up for debate. I certainly wouldn't want to see my Dem Congress critters wearing a religious head covering "in solidarity."

athena

(4,187 posts)
16. Why don't the male members wear a hijab to show solidarity?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:16 PM
Apr 2019

Why does it have to be the female members?

As a society, we need to stop thinking it’s shameful for men to dress or act in feminine ways. The whole idea that a man can’t wear a skirt or carry a purse or wear a headscarf goes back to the ancient belief that women are inferior and dirty, and that men must stay away from women and their ways as much as possible to avoid sullying themselves. Even the hijab is designed to hide women’s hair and body from men so they won’t be distracted by women and will be able to think loftier thoughts.

If a man really feels solidarity with Rep Omar, let him wear a hijab. That would be a good way to show respect for Muslim women and reject misogyny at the same time.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
18. Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell say 'Go for it!"
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:19 PM
Apr 2019

Photos of Dem representatives and senators wearing the hijab would be campaign gold for the right.





ForgedCrank

(1,779 posts)
20. I find it quite insulting that right-wingers attack this woman for no other reason than
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:28 PM
Apr 2019

what she wears on her head in support of her ideology. They disgust me and I think your idea would be a great show of solidarity

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
21. Yes
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

Do you know how courageous it is for a woman to dress and go out in America like this? I remember waiting for my bus soon after 9/11 and the young Muslim girl who always got off at that stop, descended the stairs. I felt like the weight of the hate she bore just because her religion has her cover her head. Christians wear crosses, Jews wears Stars of David and they get a pass. Those religions also have places for their women that is in not as high as they regard the men.

I do not follow a religion, but I do feel like those women in New Zealand who wanted to show White Supremacists that we are but one woman.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
25. One does not wear religious garments from another faith, even if the intentions are good.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:49 PM
Apr 2019

Mormons, Jews, Sikhs, and other faiths also have religious garments. I doubt they would appreciate non-members wearing it, even to show solidarity. Mormons have publicly come out against people mocking their clothing.

Plus evangelical fundies have thrown liberals out of the Christian faith anyway, so none of us Dems are considered Christian anymore.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
27. How about a "I support Ihan Omar" button.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 05:53 PM
Apr 2019

Can be worn by either gender and doesn't infringe on religion.

cornball 24

(1,475 posts)
33. Regarding my O.P.....
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

I see Ilhan Omar as a woman of great character and strength who will not be intimidated in her quest to uphold the values of a true democracy. Ilhan is proud of her Muslim faith. My O.P. was certainly not meant to exacerbate the situation but to acknowledge that a visibly proud Muslim woman now serving in Congress is a voice for what is right and good and deserves our support.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
34. Hard no. Nobody should be wearing that misogynist scarf
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 07:03 PM
Apr 2019

I could definitely get behind an effort to wear pins or hold a press conference that's religiously neutral and would show our support

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