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Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:36 AM

I'm predicting there are going to be a lot of people who will see this administration in a new light

after that 12am tax deadline passes tomorrow night.

We usually get a modest refund between state and federal, but instead are having to pay just over $2K to federal. Looks like we may still get something back from the state, maybe enough to offset the bill by about $300 but hubby is still at the dining room table figuring that out.

He's always poo-poo'd my political talk and opinions, not paying a lot of attention figuring it didn't really affect him. Tonight he's not feeling that way. I told him "Well, you knew a lot of people were having to pay, some even paying large sums, when they had received refunds in the past." He said "Yeah, but I didn't know how much we were going to get screwed over." (yes, he's a Republican that votes Democratic).

I would think a lot of Trumpers will be experiencing the same over the next 24 hrs, but they'll probably place the blame on Pres. Obama.

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Reply I'm predicting there are going to be a lot of people who will see this administration in a new light (Original post)
woodsprite Apr 2019 OP
rusty quoin Apr 2019 #1
Dan Apr 2019 #18
displacedtexan Apr 2019 #2
TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #21
magicarpet Apr 2019 #3
rufus dog Apr 2019 #4
BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #9
scarytomcat Apr 2019 #11
oldtime dfl_er Apr 2019 #5
woodsprite Apr 2019 #12
durablend Apr 2019 #13
gratuitous Apr 2019 #14
CrispyQ Apr 2019 #15
Historic NY Apr 2019 #19
James48 Apr 2019 #6
TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #20
Rhiannon12866 Apr 2019 #7
uponit7771 Apr 2019 #8
smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #10
DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #16
benld74 Apr 2019 #17
greymattermom Apr 2019 #22

Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:49 AM

1. Yeah, I don't know if higher taxes will move Republicans. They have been fixed for a long time.

Hell, the crash of 2008 only took a black president to forget it.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:09 PM

18. Well, I think

Financial pain freshens your mind... especially if you are not part of the top percent.

Even for the upper middle class financial pain freshens your mind and clears your thinking.

Some, not all, will wake up with a fresh new outlook and have to ask themselves the question, how much hate can I afford.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:52 AM

2. Paying $3600 to Uncle Sam but getting back $500 from state of California.

We normally get back $500-700 from Uncle Sam. Surprise! Not this year.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:17 AM

21. That asshole Grover Norquist is quiet on this, trying to distract with federal gas taxes lately.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:58 AM

3. Oh,.. what is the big deal,... ?

Just look upon it as the little guy fueling up a 150 foot yacht owned by the 1% so the big shot can cruise up and down the coast while drinking champagne.

You paid for it with your tax increase,... they enjoy it with their lower tax bill,.. you pick up the tab.

It is called trickle up,.. where the rich get more,.. and the not so rich get substantially less.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:15 AM

4. I actually got a fed refund this year (Californian)

To do that I had to do the following:

1. My wife had an extra $200 per paycheck withheld. ($5,200)
2. I funded a 401k through my business that took out 30k of income on top of what I would normally fund.

So 35k of income was pulled out of circulation so as NOT to owe taxes.

That being said, my deductions decreased by 15k.

To put this in perspective, 35k was witheld from the economy because I planned on being FUCKED by tRump. My net return, was 2k, (owed state of CA 4k, got 2k back from Fed)

Not a sustainable plan, I am waiting for the Blue States to revolt.



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Response to rufus dog (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:34 AM

9. That is similar to what my husband

and I did. We are fortunate to be able to do that.

Not too many can afford to have the extra amounts withheld as they depend on every dollar from paycheck to paycheck.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:03 AM

11. we did something similar

and got a small refund but paid more taxes

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:16 AM

5. Many of them are happy to pony up

the extra $3000 if it means sticking it to the libs.

Somehow, in their minds, that's how they justify it, and are OK with it.

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:12 AM

12. Unfortunately, my relatives (or rather my hubby's) are like that. n/t

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:32 AM

13. Yup

And when they're broke and living in a cardboard box it'll all be that damn Obama's fault

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

14. Or they'll justify it by saying that Trump didn't mean to hurt them personally

Oddly, though, they will fly-speck any comment by a Democrat to ferret out some personal insult to be outraged about. This is so even (and perhaps especially) when they're not the ones being talked about.

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Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:45 PM

15. "Stick it to the libs" comes from almost four decades of unchallenged hate radio.

The dems/left have ignored this scourge for decades & still do.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:57 AM

19. Right now is the time one of these pacs or whatever should be hammering Trump

and the GOP tax cuts.....but we play nice and then get kicked in the ass. Radio-Tv short little 30 sec ads.
People have short memories so you have to strike them when its hot.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:42 AM

6. Paid $4,356 this year.

That included an $80 penalty because I didnít have enough taken out.

I didnít touch a thing. Last year I got $200 back, but this years shift to the standard deductions, and no exemptions, just killed me.

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Response to James48 (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:13 AM

20. According to my accountant: My deductions were reduced to give impression of tax savings for 2018.

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This appears to have been planned to give a 2018 election cycle illusion of a GOP tax savings for everyone.

When the real effect of the change would hit when taxes are due in April 2019.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:03 AM

7. I have to pay too, quite a bit (to me) for the first time

I usually get a refund which I use to pay my tax preparer fee.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:23 AM

8. "...come on man it wasn't the democrats !! Democrats didn't raise your taxes !! I know, I know ..."

... and that's when it hit me that some people just want to be correct about Red Don, they have too much vested in being correct to say they're wrong now.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:30 AM

10. K&R

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:17 PM

16. "If only the fuhrer knew!"

 

"If only the fuhrer knew!" was the cry of Germans during hitler's third reich. They believed that it was hitler's underlings instigating all the policies that were hurting them and they believed the facts were somehow being hidden from hitler. If only the fuhrer knew he would certainly fix these problems and hold those rogue underlings accountable.

How fucking stupid can people be? Exactly that fucking stupid just like Germans were with hitler and we Americans are with trump.

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:10 PM

17. GOP knew exactly what they were doing

They dont care
They dont represent anyone living or breathing
They have NO SOUL

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Response to woodsprite (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:37 AM

22. I actually benefited

I live in a red state, my house is paid off, my property taxes are low, and I overpaid estimated taxes last year. I got a big refund.

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