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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:07 AM

Tucker Carlson guest, Mark Steyn, says Notre Dame fire due to "godlessness" in France

Tucker Carlson guest Mark Steyn reacts to Notre Dame fire by calling the French "Godless" and portraying France as overrun by Muslims

MARK STEYN (GUEST: Christendom is in retreat in Europe, and in France particularly - France has actually quite an aggressive belief in secularism and according to some polls, the French are even by the standards of the modern Western world among the most Godless people in that sense. Three years ago, in that terrible summer that began with the Nice truck killings, when it seemed as if the entire French state was unraveling, I went to Rouen cathedral for the funeral of Hamel, the French priest who had his throat cut at mass. And I went to the basilica of Saint-Denis, which is in the north of Paris where the French kings are buried.

And basically is a Christian museum in the heart of what is now a Muslim suburb in effect. There is no sense of Christianity outside of the walls of that cathedral. And it was after that that I went to then Notre Dame because you do have the sense that a living, breathing faith is just becoming actually a museum. An art gallery. A storage facility. And the French who were on the streets in tears this evening, on the streets of Paris - I don't think they're mourning just history or architecture or art or culture. They are mourning something else. But what that something else post-Christian France can't quite identify it. That's really the conundrum. When Monsieur Macron says we're going to rebuild it - rebuild it for what? When people talk about oh the heart of France has died - what is in the soul of France? What is this? Is it just the building or something more?

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2019/04/15/tucker-carlson-guest-mark-steyn-reacts-notre-dame-fire-calling-french-godless-and-portraying-france/223453


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Reply Tucker Carlson guest, Mark Steyn, says Notre Dame fire due to "godlessness" in France (Original post)
Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 OP
ExciteBike66 Apr 2019 #1
Initech Apr 2019 #21
el_bryanto Apr 2019 #2
Maeve Apr 2019 #3
riverine Apr 2019 #4
Javaman Apr 2019 #5
malaise Apr 2019 #7
Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #8
Javaman Apr 2019 #9
bobbieinok Apr 2019 #6
CanonRay Apr 2019 #10
Johonny Apr 2019 #11
dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #12
Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #13
Initech Apr 2019 #14
Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #15
snort Apr 2019 #16
Aristus Apr 2019 #17
Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #18
jayfish Apr 2019 #19
struggle4progress Apr 2019 #20
lpbk2713 Apr 2019 #22

Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:09 AM

1. Odd that a god would respond to "godlessness" by punishing a church building...

If He is smiting churches, that doesn't seem like a good way to get people to go to church...

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 01:54 PM

21. That does seem strange doesn't it?

Maybe god is a closet self loather? Or maybe he's disgusted with his fans?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:10 AM

2. Steyn is a monster more or less

He wants a theocracy.

Bryant

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:14 AM

3. And did he opine on the recent storms in the USA southern states?

Just askin'....their god only seems to smite the people they already hate. (and for what it is worth, that god bears no resemblance to the one Jesus talked about who 'sends rain on the just and the unjust')

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:17 AM

4. I recall the disdain the religious like Steyn have always expressed for us secular humanists.

 

As such I agree with Steyn in one aspect - the cathedral functioned as a gorgeous old museum to most of us. I think of Christopher Hitchens today - Religion Poisons Everything.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:20 AM

5. I am of the belief that the fire started via a welding spark...

perhaps we should ban fire due its "godlessness".

fucker carlson is, as always, a sanctimonious idiot.

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Response to Javaman (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:39 AM

7. Makes sense

I wondered about a cigarette but a welding spark makes more sense

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Response to Javaman (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:40 AM

8. I saw some speculation that the fire was related to the renovations, possibly welding.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:42 AM

9. in old buildings, the wood is so incredibly dry.

it doesn't take much.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:37 AM

6. Didn't France become officially completely secular after the French Revolution?

IIRC their laws and public policy are much more strictly secular/separation of church and state than anything US ever even contemplated.

I believe that's why Muslims have dress code problems there--it's not anti-Islam attitude, it's anti wearing any religious symbol.

The extreme secularism of the French Revolution was 1 of the many reasons the Christian nations were so angered by the Revolution.

I think Hal Lindsey blames the Revolution and the Enlightenment about equally for 'The Late Great Planet Earth'

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:49 AM

10. You'd think he/she would burn down the National Assembly instead?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:06 AM

11. Given fire is one of the manifestations of God, for instance the burning bush

I'm gonna say Tucker's guest is an idiot that understands nothing about anything.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:37 AM

12. I'm not sure who is dumber?

Is it Tucker Carlson or the brainwashed morons that are his loyal followers?

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:41 AM

13. Ooh, that sounds like one of those angels and pin head kind of questions.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:43 AM

14. Where do we find these people???

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:46 AM

15. Under rocks?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

16. Stain?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:47 AM

17. So when does the White House catch fire?

And when the British burned it the first time in 1814, was it because of our 'godlessness'?

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Response to Aristus (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:53 AM

18. You are attempting to use logic. You know by now that it won't work with right wingers.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:01 AM

19. I don't like what my neighbors are doing so...

I'm going to burn my own house down in protest. God job Jesus!

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:19 AM

20. "Dear friends! Welcome back to Tucker's Bible Hour! We have a wonderful message

for you today! Remember that whenever everything is going well for you, it shows you are a good person who God loves. And whenever anything goes badly for you, it shows you are an evil loser and God hates you! Some communists nowadays think rich people should sell everything they have to help the poor. But here at Tucker's Bible Hour, we say that would be wrong: why should a good person (who God loves) help an evil loser (who God hates)? Rich people can't help poor people! And the rich people might become poor just by trying to help! That would defeat the will of God! Here at Tucker's Bible Hour, we're spreading the good news of Palm Sunday: bad things never happen to good people! Yes, friends! If you're good like Jesus, people will cheer you wherever you go! And when bad things happen to you, it's your own fault! And that is the good message from Tucker's Bible Hour! As it says in the Book of Job, the Lord helps those who help themselves and punishes those who help their neighbors!"

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 02:04 PM

22. He beat Pat Robertson to it.



That sounds like something Pat would say.

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