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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:48 AM

Ran into a Notre Dame Conspiracy Nut on line

Convinced the fire was set by Muslims and that this was France's 9/11.
He mentioned those lunatics Pam Gellar and Richard Spencer as sources
I told that person "I find it quite convenient that they tweeted so quickly after the fire. It was almost as if they knew the fire was going to happen."
That person told me I was irresponsible for making that kind of accusation
I told that person "Right back at you."

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Reply Ran into a Notre Dame Conspiracy Nut on line (Original post)
rpannier Apr 2019 OP
Archae Apr 2019 #1
Mr. Evil Apr 2019 #22
ck4829 Apr 2019 #2
forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #3
Tipperary Apr 2019 #6
cojoel Apr 2019 #7
TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #11
lisby Apr 2019 #12
forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #25
mn9driver Apr 2019 #4
zipplewrath Apr 2019 #5
marble falls Apr 2019 #8
Jim__ Apr 2019 #9
maryellen99 Apr 2019 #10
Moostache Apr 2019 #13
NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #15
Jim_Pridx Apr 2019 #14
murielm99 Apr 2019 #18
Jim_Pridx Apr 2019 #20
okaawhatever Apr 2019 #28
PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #16
certainot Apr 2019 #17
Ilsa Apr 2019 #19
47of74 Apr 2019 #21
irisblue Apr 2019 #23
progressoid Apr 2019 #24
ThoughtCriminal Apr 2019 #26
sellitman Apr 2019 #27

Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:53 AM

1. It's not just Gellar and Spencer...

Mark Steyn on Tucker Carlson blamed "godless" French people, and claimed Notre Dame is surrounded by Muslims.

Breitbart is swamped with Muslim-blamers.

Yesterday Hannity on his radio show blamed "terrorists."

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Response to Archae (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:57 AM

22. Right-wing extremists never waste an opportunity to blame and attack the 'others.'

Anger and fear is their daily mantra. When they find out it was something like a worker helping with the renovations that dropped a cigarette into a can of paint thinner or something of that nature, you will never hear a retraction or an admission of error. They just wait for the next opportunity to espouse more anger and fear.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:03 AM

2. K&R, it was kinda quick

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:10 AM

3. An old building caught fire. Nobody died.

Sad that it was a nearly-century-old historic monument that means a lot to people, but this is nowhere near the tragic scale of 9/11.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:35 AM

6. I know, people here comparing it to 9/11 diminishes what happened that horrific day.

Nowhere near 9/11 by any measure.

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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:46 AM

7. and there was construction work in progress

nothing ever goes wrong with that, though

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Response to cojoel (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:14 AM

11. Yeah, not that a careless construction worker's torch could destroy the US Pavilion of Expo 67.

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Montreal Biodome








Once the acrylic shell started to ignite, it went up like the Hindenburg.



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Response to forgotmylogin (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:20 AM

12. You mean nearly a millenium

Notre Dome is going on 900 years old.

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Response to lisby (Reply #12)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:55 PM

25. My bad! Yes, I wrote that before coffee! (n/t)

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:25 AM

4. The brainwashed have already decided it was Islamic terrorism.

I visited a chat room this morning that often has information useful to me for my job. There were multiple threads ranting about how this was obviously terrorism, and anyone who replied that there was no indication of anything like that got shouted down by the crazies.

Very depressing and disturbing.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:32 AM

5. Ignorance is literally killing people.

I was thinking about this the other day. The whole measles outbreak is basically people dying because of sheer ignorance.
That a person could have the cognitive dissonance to accuse YOU of being irresponsible, IMMEDIATELY after making unfounded accusations is just hard to wrap ones head around.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:53 AM

8. Nice job!

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:05 AM

9. I was listening to RW radio in Denver this morning.

They've already decided that the French government and media will suppress the fact that it was Islamic terrorism. So, the lack of news backing up their conspiracies will confirm that they're right.

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:08 AM

10. Yeah they claim that the fire was deliberately set so a Mosque could be built in its place nt

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:21 AM

13. A "victory" Mosque no doubt... (n/t)

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:27 AM

15. typical

no matter what happens, it will confirm their suspicions.

Even if they find out it was a group of Neo Nazis, they'll claim it was a government-created false flag

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:26 AM

14. I read some of the comments on the Fox News coverage.......

from the fire yesterday, and I swear that about 75 percent of those commenting were already blaming liberals and/or Muslims for setting the fire to the cathedral. Once I pointed out that the French authorities were suspecting a construction-caused fire due to the extensive renovation going on, they blasted me even further with cheap shots and name-calling. The majority of those RW folks certainly don't have any sympathy or compassion for what may have actually occurred in this incident. Pretty pathetic bunch!

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Response to Jim_Pridx (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:31 AM

18. If they are old enough,

they are probably the same people who yelled about freedom fries and called the French people cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:38 AM

20. Probably so....

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Response to Jim_Pridx (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:50 PM

28. Please remember that while the right wingers are hateful idiots in their own right, a lot of the

early posts after a tragedy come from trolls whose job it is to:
1. Stir up $hit
2. Make voters afraid
3. Target that fear towards a group of individuals who don't support the republicans.
4. Republicans then campaign on how they can keep you safe from X, but if Dems are elected X will happen all the time.


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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:28 AM

16. Yesterday there was at least one thread here

comparing the Notre Dame fire to 9/11. Not that anyone was saying it was actual terrorism, but the comparison was made. Some of us, myself included, said there was zero comparison.

And even if this fire were the work of terrorists, it's only a cultural landmark that's been destroyed, not several thousand lives.

Plus, while I'm no expert on terrorism, my guess is that terrorists would have put bombs in place and set them off when it was full of tourists. Not start a fire on the roof when there was almost no one inside.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:29 AM

17. the talk radio shits can speculate all day long about 'mooslims', how ilhan omar

just got back from a secret trip to paris, and suggest all sorts of shit o n public airwaves on stations licensed to operate in the public interest

it'll keep going until ebola starts coming across the border

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:34 AM

19. I knew this would happen,

blaming both Muslims and "Godless" French folk. I figured it would only take one day. I guess it was not even that long

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:51 AM

21. Twitter and Facebook need to lock this shit down.

Hard and fast.

Of course Fuckerburg and Jack are such goddamn cowards that it won't happen.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 10:57 AM

23. It was on twitter while the fire was burning yesterday. White Nationalism & Supremacy

And Islamophobia are powerful drugs.
I was seeing tweets about a Muslim woman trying to burn down the cathedral, so misogyny is in the mix too.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:01 AM

24. If you really want to poke the conspiracy bee hive...

Jerusalem's Al-Aqsa Mosque Fire Burns at the Same Time As Flames Engulf Notre Dame Cathedral

https://www.newsweek.com/notre-dame-fire-aqsa-mosque-1397259

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:09 PM

26. Next, they will be claiming

fire is not hot enough to burn wood.

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Response to rpannier (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:48 PM

27. I've learned to stay away from RW sink holes.

Better things to do online. I don't care what they think.

Same with acquaintances. I won't discuss politics with a Trumper. My blood pressure thanks me.

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