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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:51 AM

Republican lawmaker accuses jewish speaker of being Nazi-collaborator for criticizing Israel.


The Orlando Sentinel reports that controversy started when Fine attacked a local organization called the Space Coast Progressive Alliance for sponsoring a panel discussion about the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. Fine particularly drew backlash when he referred to the organization as an “anti-Semitic rally targeting Jews sponsored by a Democrat club,” even though three of the five speakers at the panel were Jewish.


“I was at the event,” Halpern said. “I am Jewish. There was nothing anti-Semitic said. Questioning the policies of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitic. Many people from various organizations were invited to speak and chose not to. Three of the five panelists were Jewish. YOU, Rep. Fine, were not there.”

Fine responded by questioning Halpern’s faith before calling him a “Judenrat,” which is a term used to describe Jews who collaborated with Nazis.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:05 AM

1. Judenrats were mandatory councils created by the Nazis

From Judenrat by Isaiah Trunk (1972)

Decree of the Fuhrer and the governor general, Hans Frank, concerning the establishment of Jewish Councils--October 12, 1939:

Par. 1: In every community a representative body of the Jews is to be formed.
Par. 2: In communities of over 10,000 inhabitants this representative body, the Jewish Council (Judenrat), is to consist of 24 Jews from the local population The Jewish Council is to be elected by the Jews in the community.
Par 3: From among its members, the Jewish Council will elect a chairman and his deputy.
Par 5: The Jewish Council is obliged to receive, through its chairman or his deputy, the orders of German official agencies. Its responsibility will be to see to it that the orders are carried out completely and accurately. The directives whic h the Council may issue in the execution of German orders must be obeyed by all Jews and Jewesses.

There was no way to avoid serving in these councils, and those who served did their utmost to protect as many as they could in whatever ways they could. Using the word as this person does only illustrates his ignorance.

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Tue Apr 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

2. Republicans seem to be pushing the anti-Semitic thing hard.

It is a complicated situation given that Israeli policy is linked to what some consider an Israeli identity which has been stated, is a Jewish identity, however it is obviously not anti-Semitic to criticize the way the Israeli government makes and implements policy so long as the criticism does not contain anti-Semitic tropes.

For Republicans however, nuance doesn't exist. They only see the world in "winning and losing". You are either 100% for their issues or you are against them, and I am not talking about Israel, I am talking about what Republicans say and think is Israel, or any other issue for that matter.

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