Nadler: 4 charges against Bill Barr

[Miles Archer]

House Judiciary Chair Jerry Nadler blasted Attorney General Bill Barr at a hastily-called Wednesday evening press conference.

“One, he summarized the report and cherry-picked findings in his March 24th letter to Congress,” he charged.

“Two, he withheld summaries written by the special counsel that were intended for public consumption,” he continued.

“Three he briefed the white house before providing Congress a copy that helped them prepare a rebuttal response for the president,” he said.

“And now, the evening before the report’s scheduled release, the Department of Justice has informed the committee that it will receive a copy between 11:00 and noon — well after the Attorney General’s 9:30 a.m. press conference,” Nadler said. “This is wrong.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/judiciary-chair-lays-4-charges-bill-barr-sound-like-articles-impeachment/

[uponit7771]

1. Barr can be impeached and should, screw this crap ... not holding firm encourages despots like Barr

[cstanleytech]

7. Agreed and even if the Senate votes not to convict him each Senator that does so

puts themselves on the record as supporting corruption and the Democrats could and should use it against them in the upcoming election.

[uponit7771]

9. THIS !!!! The people will hold Senate KKKons to account

[RainCaster]

13. Yes!

This is how we need to act - weaponize the treasonous actions of the GOP.

[pangaia]

16. I'll drink to that !!!

[at140]

51. Now if you can convince Nancy P & Steny H,

impeachment will happen pronto. Both have come out against impeachment before 2020 election.

[bdamomma]

19. They can all be impeached

add Stephen Miller to that list.

[Chin music]

29. Omg...

THAT effin guy. Oh man. We have a special cell for that one. Dead eyed. Souless seemingly.

[calimary]

25. Sure seems to be looking like the poster child for obstruction of justice.

Actually one of two. The other one is The Asset.

[appal_jack]

32. Yes, exactly. k&r, nt

[LiberalLovinLug]

41. Nadler is all bark

Frustratingly, like a lot of Democrats in Washington. Nadler also promised to immediately start impeachment hearings on Kavanaugh if they took the House.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/05/us/politics/kavanaugh-house-investigation.html

[ehrnst]

45. Um... it's been less than 4 months since we've had the House.

Do you think that Nadler waves a wand, and suddenly investigations are completed, and hearings held?

[LiberalLovinLug]

46. Um....the idea has already been quashed

Top Judiciary Dem: No plans to investigate or impeach Kavanaugh

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/416119-top-judiciary-dem-no-plans-to-investigate-or-impeach-kavanaugh

I get tired of the Democrats promising concrete action and it ending up a strongly worded letter.

[ehrnst]

47. Yes, armchair quarterbacking makes one feel so much SMARTER than anyone who is actually

on the field or the court, in the game itself.

The great thing for armchair quarterbacks is that they can always insist that they could have totally turned that game around and own, because there's no way they are ever going to actually have to prove it.

Also known as "flying the plane looks very different in the cockpit than it does from coach."

Complying with sheer number of demands of them to "do this right now!! what the hell are they waiting for???" would prevent them from prioritizing things like... well, the Cohen hearings.

[LiberalLovinLug]

48. That's not armchair quarterbacking

It's the quarterback on Tv telling the audience what he's going to do, and then not following through. Or him not checking with team management first before getting everyone's hopes up.
It ain't gonna happen.

I didn't make him promise to impeach K, jeez

[ehrnst]

49. No, you aren't clear on what I was referring to:

Armchair quarterbacking is thinking you know more than the people on the field, who sometimes change their minds with new information. I'm sure you wouldn't insist that a coach or quarterback should refrain from shifting strategy until announcing it to the fans when the situation changes on the field... after all, if you said to the press you were going to start player 4, and player 4 turns out to have a bum knee, they should totally be hamstrung by what they told the teevee audience they who they were planning to start. Yes? Does that make more sense to you?

Some people think that learning from new information, and making decisions based on that new information, even if some are put out by the shift in strategy, is actually a good trait in a leader. Weird, I know, but go figure.

If you feel that a breach of promise action against Nadler is warranted, by all means let us know how that goes.

Also consider this: removing Kavanaugh from SCOTUS within the next 18 months simply leaves another opening for DT to replace him with a clone, perhaps one less vulnerable to impeachment, and since the GOP still has the Senate, that nominee will be confirmed....

Read further...

Nadler added that, while the committee won't investigate or seek to impeach Kavanaugh, it will look into whether the FBI investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against the justice was adequate.

That investigation was launched following multiple allegations of sexual misconduct against the then-Supreme Court nominee. Democrats have criticized the White House for instructing the FBI to limit the scope of that investigation.

"One of the things the committee has to do is investigate the question of the FBI not doing a proper investigation because of White House interference so that we can do whatever’s necessary to make sure that investigations in the future are adequate," Nadler said Sunday.

Perhaps that the investigation into the FBI would yield low hanging fruit that could be used more effectively? Perhaps someone posited that an starting investigation into the background check that ends just after a Dem president is elected that shows Kavanaugh is disqualified for the seat based on what was not revealed in the faulty background check, THEN impeaching him would be a MUCH BETTER OUTCOME?

Did you read my post far enough into the post to get to this part? Did you understand that?

Also known as "flying the plane looks very different in the cockpit than it does from coach.

Let me know if you have questions on that.

[LiberalLovinLug]

50. What "new information" would negate the testimony of Blasey Ford?

Or any other of the women that never did get to testify? Was there some "new information" that K. was actually quite an outstanding citizen? Maybe those were only Near Beers he was drinking.

And I don't buy the argument that Democrats can't handle more than one thing at once. My gawd, learn at least from your enemy. That its actually more effective to have the other side always on the defensive on multiple fronts.

Look, fine, if they were too "busy" to go down that route, although I suspect it was more of the same old, don't want to be accused of not being "moderate" (even thought the nation has moved way past that). all I'm saying is I'm up to here with them promising one thing, this from a senior Democrat, and falling flat. When the article first came out that Nadler and others were going to start a hearing IF they took the House, I and many others in that thread were stoked. After the quarterback set us up, we ran back to get a good run at the ball for the winning field goal, only to have the usual suspects pull the ball away at the last second.......again. Just don't promise and then wimp out. Better not to promise anything.

[ehrnst]

52. Why would you want Kavanaugh impeached in a time frame when DT could replace him?

Perhaps with a less vulnerable, but even worse clone?

As long as DT has the Senate, they will rubber stamp any nominee.

However, if as Nadler states, they first investigate if the process by which the FBI did the background check was interfered with by Trump, and that investigation concludes in November 2020.

Impeachment of Kavanaugh could happen when there is a Democratic Congress and Senate, with a Democratic President to replace him.

But by all means, please keep demanding that it happen now, despite that possible outcome that you didn't seem to consider before. Why not Clarence Thomas, too, while we're at it, so DT can replace him with a younger version of himself? The GOP might even fast track that for Nadler.

[LiberalLovinLug]

54. That's a good point

About them just replacing him.
It just seemed to be yet another all bark no bite moment. It gets frustrating. I do think the longer they wait though the harder it will be. ie. Thomas. And I have doubts now they will ever tackle that. Only if they ever got all three branches, and the way the electoral college is structured I don't know if that will ever be possible.

That would be a dream if they ever had any decent length of time with all three. Just start reversing every damn GOP bill and start the process towards real universal healthcare

[ehrnst]

55. Reversing every bill would take a Dem president signing off, or a veto-proof majority.

Even though it would pad the voting records of newbies, it would be as productive as when the GOP voted to "repeal and replace Obamacare" dozens of times when that wasn't possible.

It is frustrating. In many ways, I wish I didn't know the little that I do about the legislative process, having worked in a couple of progressive national orgs, because I would be able to get behind and derive hope from "simple solutions" that are promised to complex problems.

Repairing the ACA is the most likely path towards getting back on the road to UHC. There are parts of it that are very popular, even to people who don't know those parts are because of the ACA. Focusing on protecting and expanding on those popular part, will be the best way not to trigger a backlash.

I'm really hoping that "MFA or bust" message will not pushed by Democrats in 2020 because right now there are GOP social media and chain email campaigns directed to seniors that Medicare For All is "diluting the Medicare that you paid into for years before earning it with people who haven't paid in at all - it's going to turn your hard earned healthcare into 'Medicaid for All.'

That's going to be the GOP message to the "Silver Wave" of boomers aging into Medicare for the 2020 election.

[bahrbearian]

2. 4 Charges or 4 Finger Wags ?

[superpatriotman]

3. Four strongly-worded letters

Strongly worded.

[uponit7771]

10. whoa whoa whoa !!! He threw in a tweet ... come on now /sarcasm

[superpatriotman]

21. Did it express concern?

Extreme concern?

[JHB]

34. It kept our powder dry.

Must always conserve that sacred, sacred powder.

[GulfCoast66]

11. Your suggestion?

[TxVietVet]

18. Boy, I bet that really hurts the conservanazis.

The conservanazis and tRump violate laws and ignore the rule of law. Someone in the Democratic Party do SOMETHING to hold the treasonous bastards accountable.

I’m losing faith in my government and the Constitution I served to defend.

Where is the OUTRAGE?!!!!!!

[Chin music]

28. Maybe this was putting them on notice for tomorrow?

I hope so.
Prelude to a Prosecution.

[UniteFightBack]

4. Wait a minute..."he briefed the white trash house and HELPED them prepare a lie for the fake prez"??

Whaaaaaat????

[2naSalit]

20. Apparently...nt

[Chin music]

27. "White Trash House"

Heh heh.

[sarcasmo]

5. Subpoena the Mueller report, what is Nadler waiting for? The GOP will Never do the right thing.

[Scarsdale]

35. Mueller and everyone

who worked so diligently putting this report together, should appear as a group and hand over copies of their report to the democratic committees. Taxpayers PAID for this report. Manafort's assets more than repaid the Treasury. Time for the TRUTH to be laid out in the open, for everyone to see. What Barr and the tRump administration is doing is downgrading all the hard work these lawyers under R. Mueller did. This is NOT Russia - YET. We do not have a supreme leader who crushes all dissent.

[Perseus]

6. Fine, then start the subponeas, get the law after the criminal

Talk is cheap, action is what works, please start the proceedings, everyone Bar is a crook, then get the law after him.

[Perseus]

8. I did not live it directly, but family and friends did and I kept informed every day

And it is like I am living the Venezuela thing again, and this time I am where its happening. Because I have close friends and family who live in Venezuela, every day I read the news, saw videos of what was happening when the Chavez experiment began. Every day the opposition was on TV complaining about the extreme behaviour Chavez and his crooks were doing on a daily basis to the constitution, to the rule of law, to Venezuela's democracy, but that was it, complain, complain, complain, no action...sound familiar?

With crooks like that, and the ones here at home, you cannot do that, they don't care, they don't ignore it because they love to hear it and laugh, they know its all talk and no action, and the more dangerous part is that it allows them to come up with addendums to the constitution that will allow them to be crooks legally, and when that happens it is very difficult to go back.

THIS IS SERIOUS...Democrats need to get the law behind them, begin issuing subpoenas, indictments, etc...ACTION, ACTION!!!

If they don't bring action into the fight it is going to get very ugly and to reverse the damage it will be very, very difficult.

[stillcool]

12. We need our own..

Lindsay Graham. Someone bombastic, bordering on full meltdown.

[Scarsdale]

37. Where IS that

little weasel Graham? He stomps around like a little runt with his Foghorn Leghorn accent, spewing garbage. No TV appearances lately.

[scarletwoman]

14. "This is wrong." - So, what are you going to about it?

This is ridiculous! Barr and Trump are basically flipping the bird to the Democrats - and the best they can come up with in response is "tut, tut"?

[zentrum]

15. Do Something Nadler. Act.

Don't just scold and grab your pearls!

[orangecrush]

17. NOT EVEN PRETENDING TO BE IMPARTIAL ANYMORE

Fuck this.

Time for Dems to act.

[Beartracks]

22. These aren't charges, just observations.

[Ferrets are Cool]

23. "This is wrong" And?

[Hassler]

24. Again: It's a criminal cover-up to obstruct justice. SAY IT, goddamn it! The memes

Don't announce themselves.

[Chin music]

26. BAM!!

It's a step in the right direction. Nadler has all night to evolve and find some stones, and do whatever everyone thinks is right.
Hakeem Jeffries sounded real cogent on TRMS tonight and he summed all this shit show up. I'm hoping it's the beginning of the end of the trump presidency if Judge Walton can check Bob Barr and give Mueller some cover and motivation to go public with what he knows. Tomorrow will be a big day. Hopefully the D's have thought this out, and are ready to start this round-up.

[mucifer]

30. so much worse than Fitzmas

[Initech]

31. This is completely corrupt, out of control, unacceptable and dare I say treasonous.

Or as the Trump administration calls it, Tuesday.

[duforsure]

33. I think before its all over with

barr will face charges for not recusing himself , conspiracy , and obstruction of justice, and maybe lying to Congress.

[TryLogic]

39. That is what SHOULD happen.

[BSdetect]

36. Arrest the fucker

[calimary]

42. We could call that "Barr Behind Bars".

[blueinredohio]

38. I'm sure Mueller kept copies of his summaries plus copies of his report

subpoena him alone with his copies. NOW! Stop screwing around, we have to get rid of all these assholes.

[yaesu]

40. Barr is tRumps attorney, is only Attorney General by name nt

[OnDoutside]

43. #ETTD

[Honeycombe8]

44. There have been no charges filed, that I know of. What's Nadler talking about?

Either charges have been filed, or they haven't, seems to me.

[uponit7771]

53. +1