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llmart

(15,534 posts)
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:47 PM Apr 2019

I don't know about the rest of you, but I think a President who says "I'm f***ed" is guilty.

I don't care if legally they can't prove "intent" (whatever), our country is worse off for having this criminal in our White House and running our nation. What will the history books say about him?

We've gone from "I cannot tell a lie" about chopping down a cherry tree to the supposed leader of our nation saying "I'm f***ed."

Never thought I'd see the day. Oh, and I highly doubt you'd read something like this about President Obama.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I think a President who says "I'm f***ed" is guilty. (Original Post) llmart Apr 2019 OP
HELL YES! elleng Apr 2019 #1
Not only is he guilty - he also KNOWS it! FakeNoose Apr 2019 #2
Want some cheese with that whine Donnie? TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #9
You know, that statement he made to Sessions "how could you let this happen"... llmart Apr 2019 #15
And Trump said it was Session's job to protect him TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #19
that screen shot and quote need to be posted and front page news everywhere! - n/t Locrian Apr 2019 #35
Tweety was on MSNBC earlier and he made a good analogy. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #3
That's awesome! N/t TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #11
He left out the dozen empty beer cans at your feet jayschool2013 Apr 2019 #21
The only truthful statement he has shanti Apr 2019 #4
We don't know that yet FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #36
Sounds like confession to me. Of course, he might be talking about matters outside Mueller's purview Hoyt Apr 2019 #5
He's been guilty for 50+ years Awsi Dooger Apr 2019 #6
And it sounds like he couldn't use a mental capacity defense ;) nt woodsprite Apr 2019 #7
Of course he is. And he got away with it all. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #8
K&R UTUSN Apr 2019 #10
As do I. Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2019 #12
It's what the books will say about us ... ananda Apr 2019 #13
Shh! watoos Apr 2019 #14
The cherry tree thing is a myth, just so you know. BlueStater Apr 2019 #16
"What will the history books say about him?" Depends who's writing them. VOX Apr 2019 #17
History?? Traildogbob Apr 2019 #18
"Cute"? Trump and the specter of totalitarianism go hand-in-hand. VOX Apr 2019 #20
I am with ya. Traildogbob Apr 2019 #24
🎶 "If you're guilty an' you know it, flap your gums!" 🎶 n/t sprinkleeninow Apr 2019 #22
Yet he had very little to say, nothing actually, on his way off to Mara Loco with his plastic wife. llmart Apr 2019 #25
When * let slip "I'm forked!!1!1" He kinda shutty now is right. eom sprinkleeninow Apr 2019 #30
Perhaps he, like SFuckabeeS, will claim... 3catwoman3 Apr 2019 #23
I can't think of better evidence of consciousness of guilt than "I'm fucked." The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #26
Very well said. Your statement needs to be our meme. llmart Apr 2019 #28
This. Altho' * could've added 'well and truly' but alas, he has no class. n/t sprinkleeninow Apr 2019 #29
Yep. In a just world he's fucked. hunter Apr 2019 #31
Not the reaction of a normal, innocent person. Kath2 Apr 2019 #27
I think no matter WHAT the conclusions of the report, he should be impeached. forgotmylogin Apr 2019 #32
What a righteous and spot on rant! And you only covered a small portion of the crap he's pulled. llmart Apr 2019 #34
The point was just made on MSNBC that Trump expected to be treated... displacedtexan Apr 2019 #33
Guilty as all getout. marble falls Apr 2019 #37
he missed a word. bdamomma Apr 2019 #38
An innocent man Aussie105 Apr 2019 #39
To me Rebl2 Apr 2019 #40
No, I disagree. Saying "I'm fucked" is not in itself evidence of guilt. Towlie Apr 2019 #41
I disagree. llmart Apr 2019 #42

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
2. Not only is he guilty - he also KNOWS it!
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 03:58 PM
Apr 2019


Thanks to Jody Hunt, former Chief of Staff for Jeff Sessions. Mr. Hunt was present when Sessions told Chump he was recusing himself, and a special investigator (Mueller) had been hired. Jody Hunt was questioned by Mueller and gave this testimony, among other stories that are included in the report.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
15. You know, that statement he made to Sessions "how could you let this happen"...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:39 PM
Apr 2019

is classic narcissistic personality disorder. Nothing is ever his fault. The bad things that happen to him have nothing to do with his behavior. It's Sessions' fault that the investigation happened, not the fact that Trump did anything wrong.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. Tweety was on MSNBC earlier and he made a good analogy.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:04 PM
Apr 2019

He said the cops pull you over for speeding, you realize you have a gun and pot in the glovebox. You know you are guilty of a lot more than speeding so you are terrified. Trump doesn't want anyone in his glovebox because it is full of sh.t.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Sounds like confession to me. Of course, he might be talking about matters outside Mueller's purview
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:08 PM
Apr 2019
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
6. He's been guilty for 50+ years
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 04:15 PM
Apr 2019

Financial lies and theft of scope we'll never begin to approximate. The mistake was not understanding that the presidency is actually more friendly to a liar and crook than the business world is. The system simply isn't designed to deal with an atrocity like this, not when he can hire and fire his own checks and balances, and with Mitch McConnell willing to rationalize anything.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,546 posts)
12. As do I.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:36 PM
Apr 2019

However, good gaslighter that he is and good enablers that they (his staff and the R's in Congress), the remark will be spun as if to say, 'Mueller was out to get me'...………..

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. "What will the history books say about him?" Depends who's writing them.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:40 PM
Apr 2019

If Trumpists, backed by a 24-hour state messaging “news” network, and the propaganda-infused Sinclair Broadcasting, and with the deep pockets of billionaires, prevail in 2020 (by hook or by crook), the history books could very well paint Trump as some sort of hero, who “saved the country from deranged leftists,” etc.

It’s our job to make sure that possibility NEVER happens.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
18. History??
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 05:53 PM
Apr 2019

It's cute you guys think that even though we are on a dead end road of society with these fucks that there will be a future to report history. If we survive, the Betsey Devos History books will speak of God sending trump to save the world. Bein Best!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
20. "Cute"? Trump and the specter of totalitarianism go hand-in-hand.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:00 PM
Apr 2019

I’ve said this more times than I can bear. The U.S. is being pushed headlong into fascism. Who even knows if there will be a free and fair election in 2020?

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
24. I am with ya.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:12 PM
Apr 2019

Cute was an ultimate sarcasm statement. I really believe a future is in question. Be it Mother Nature or trump's nuclear pals, Saudi, Puty, or Kim we may not be here much longer. We are under attack, in our face.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
25. Yet he had very little to say, nothing actually, on his way off to Mara Loco with his plastic wife.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

That, in and of itself, also speaks to his guilt. Most of the time he's more than happy to get in front of the microphones and cameras to proclaim his innocence.

forgotmylogin

(7,521 posts)
32. I think no matter WHAT the conclusions of the report, he should be impeached.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:35 PM
Apr 2019

He's done numerous things unbecoming of elected officials: He's compromised our security, he's tried an end-run around Congressional oversight with his border wall funding. He overruled experts and demanded security clearances for his kids who use unsecured apps to discuss issues of national security. He's undone decades of safety and conservation measures. He's refused to show his tax returns. He's been a general asshole to prominent people in his rallies and online. He's ignored and undone Russian sanctions that were passed. He unilaterally and unexpectedly tried to ban Muslims from flying to the US and transgender people from serving the military. He wastes millions of dollars flying to his private hotel. He's making or attempting to make money using his political status. He refuses to follow protocol and has private meetings with Putin and Kim that nobody - even officials - is allowed to be privy to on the official record. He has said things that put people in serious danger - IC assets, a WaPo reporter, Ilhan Omar... And he calls our Free Press "the enemy of the people." He's lost hundreds of staffers due to his incompetence and/or crooked dealings. He's vindictive, petty, and does not in any way represent the leader we'd like to present as our figurehead to the rest of the world.

On top of all that, his behavior prompted an entire Special Counsel investigation that lasted two years and convicted numerous people he associated with during the election campaign. No matter what the findings, this is the kind of stuff that gets you fired from a job during your probationary period.

Just that whole fucking GoT "Game Over" tweet is just maddening. President Clinton was impeached and let things take their course. He never issued a press release after the impeachment saying "Ha ha, I'm exonerated, No Blowjob, you lunatic righties!" Our president is an asshole and an embarrassment who has no qualms about wrecking things to suit his whims. He can't even close his own fucking umbrella.

We need to investigate this stuff. Impeachment isn't conviction; Impeachment is drawing aside the flag-printed curtain that President Donald J. "I'm fucked" Trump likes to wrap himself in and scream that it's a bulletproof shield and insist nobody can touch him.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
34. What a righteous and spot on rant! And you only covered a small portion of the crap he's pulled.
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 07:09 PM
Apr 2019

Most of our government positions haven't even been filled and most of the others are filled with "acting" heads of their departments. We won't know until after the fact just how much cleaning up will have to be done after he's gone. We also don't know what would happen in a national crisis due to the total incompetence of him and most of his cohorts.

Yes, we need to investigate it all. Our founding fathers never envisioned a situation like we're in now, so we have to take this all apart, examine it and make sure we put new laws in place to prevent this ever happening again. Of course it goes without saying that we need to gain back the Senate, and win in 2020.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
33. The point was just made on MSNBC that Trump expected to be treated...
Thu Apr 18, 2019, 06:41 PM
Apr 2019

...as if the law would be followed. So, when he said that, he knew he was guilty & would be prosecuted. Then, when he started seeing that republicans were protecting him, he started attacking/obstructing all over again.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
39. An innocent man
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:21 AM
Apr 2019

is more likely to say 'Oh, really? You think that? Interesting, do you have any evidence?'

But, Donny, time to put plan 'B' in action. Fuel up the jet, and fly to somewhere that has no extradition treaty with the US.
(No, Mar-a-Lago doesn't qualify.)

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
41. No, I disagree. Saying "I'm fucked" is not in itself evidence of guilt.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 11:33 AM
Apr 2019

Trump is, of course, guilty of multiple crimes and manifestly unfit for his office, but even an innocent person framed for a crime might say the same thing. Beside that, this one quote people are focusing upon runs contrary to a thousand quotes from Trump claiming the opposite. In short, it's too weak to mix with the hard evidence that already exists and only serves to dilute the sum in the eyes of his supporters. ("Did you hear the latest? Dems are claiming that because Trump said 'I'm fucked' that means he must be guilty.&quot

It's heartening to hear of this evidence that the worm is privately squirming and suffering the distress that he so richly deserves, but there's no point in characterizing it as further evidence of facts that are hardly in need of further evidence.



llmart

(15,534 posts)
42. I disagree.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 12:42 PM
Apr 2019

A. I don't give two whits what Trump supporters are saying about the matter. Nothing gets through to them anyway.

B. Trump is without a doubt a malignant narcissist and sociopath and for a narcissist to say, "I'm f***ed" when told he's going to be investigated is quite different than if a regular person said it. Malignant narcissists truly believe they are smarter than anyone else, so with a mindset like that it takes a bombshell to get through to them that their "cleverness" may not have protected them this time.

C. I never said this one quote is "hard evidence" in a court of law. My post was about how, taken with everything else we know and the personality disorder(s) he has, it's a damning statement.

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