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The Mueller reports collusion section is much worse than you think
The contacts with Russians documented in the report amount to a devastating indictment of Trumps approach to politics.
By Zack Beauchamp@zackbeauchampzack@vox.com Apr 18, 2019, 2:50pm EDT
Special counsel Robert Muellers report on Donald Trump and Russia establishes a damning series of facts about the Trump campaigns connections to the Kremlin.
We learned that two Trump campaign officials, campaign manager Paul Manafort and Manaforts deputy Rick Gates, were regularly providing polling information to a Russian national whom Gates believed to be a spy.
We learned that, after Trump publicly called on Russia to find Hillary Clintons emails, he privately ordered future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn to find them. Flynn reached out to a man named Peter Smith who (apparently falsely) told a number of people that he was in contact with Russian agents.
We learned that Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos attempted to arrange meetings between Trump and Putin, and that Trump personally approved Papadopouloss work on this front.
The report is very clear that Muellers investigation did not establish that the Trump campaign criminally conspired on illegal Russian election interference, or that it coordinated with Russia through either an active or tacit agreement.
But the report, combined with other publicly known facts that Donald Trump Jr. arranged a meeting with the express purpose of obtaining Russian dirt on Clinton, and that Papadopoulos was offered similar dirt from a Russian agent, among others paints a damning picture of the campaign. It was both actively seeking to cultivate a relationship with the Russian government and willing to work with it to acquire damaging information about its political opponents. That willingness included explicitly sharing information with or soliciting information from Russian operatives.
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https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484965/mueller-report-trump-no-collusion
triron
(21,988 posts)Seems pretty blatant.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)Which to me is a cowardly cop out.
paleotn
(17,901 posts)Unless the side investigations bring forth fruit, I cannot think of Mueller except as inept, complicit, a coward, or any combination of the 3. It's like there's smoke billowing thousands of feet in the air and Mueller and company write...well, I didn't see any flames.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)but a behavior. They made every effort to collude. What he supposedly couldn't figure out on collusion was if campaign finance laws had been violated by Jr. et al.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)And Mueller claimed he could not establish scienter, despite a mountain of evidence. Seemed like a cop out to me.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Junior et al knew it was a crime to violate campaign finance laws. Yes it sounds like bullshit.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)His ass is grass. Stupid, stupid man!
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)and you have what actually happened.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and a crime.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)we all knew how bad it was. The meetings, the secret communications, the repeated lies, the false reports on their security clearance forms, and all the rest.
They got away with it all.
Well, there's the election. We need to win. NEED.
malaise
(268,846 posts)which is why the assholes can scream no collusion - there is clear conspiracy and obstruction of justice
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)... them then?!!?
No understanding how the can lie and delete emails etc and not be charged !!!
malaise
(268,846 posts)Justice better be coming
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)This is very important. Russia offered more damaging info on Hillary and then all of this part of the report is redacted. What did tRump and his pals do this time around? Why is it redacted?
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)maxsolomon
(33,265 posts)Collusion is not a thing; that's why Asshole kept saying it.