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Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:45 PM

The end of normalizing. This gentleman makes an important point re: impeachment


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Reply The end of normalizing. This gentleman makes an important point re: impeachment (Original post)
swag Apr 2019 OP
BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #1
llmart Apr 2019 #8
BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #12
llmart Apr 2019 #14
BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #15
Eyeball_Kid Apr 2019 #2
YOHABLO Apr 2019 #3
meadowlander Apr 2019 #4
Mister Ed Apr 2019 #6
dalton99a Apr 2019 #9
TwilightZone Apr 2019 #17
meadowlander Apr 2019 #19
UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #21
llmart Apr 2019 #7
YOHABLO Apr 2019 #16
meadowlander Apr 2019 #18
llmart Apr 2019 #20
smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #23
DLevine Apr 2019 #5
Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #10
UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #22
Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #24
dalton99a Apr 2019 #11
anarch Apr 2019 #13

Response to swag (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2019, 11:49 PM

1. Call your reps tomorrow!

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/mueller-report-call-impeach/

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE:
DEMAND THEY BEGIN IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS NOW

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report proves that Donald Trump obstructed justice and tried to influence trials.

This is one of 10 impeachable offenses Trump has committed. Mueller left the decision of obstruction up to Congress, so we need to make sure they move on impeachment to get the complete truth.

Call your representative now and demand they launch impeachment hearings immediately.

* GO to the link and it connects you to the number for your rep.and provides a script.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:52 AM

8. Thank you for the link.

I was just going to post asking a question from DU'ers as to what is the most effective way to have our voices heard re: impeachment. I'm always skeptical of the online petitions, etc. I'm reliving the massive protests during trump's first months in office all over this country and the world of the women's marches. Do emails even help? Are handwritten letters/postcards more effective?

We need to have our voices heard, because I'm getting the feeling that the majority of Dems want to impeach.

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Response to llmart (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:40 PM

12. My niece was a staffer for my Dem rep in DC.

She said that they DO keep track of what people are interested in and it does matter (at least in the offices she is familiar with). Emails and calls work. I am calling Senator Burr today (pretending I am a GOP NC voter...his state) and tell him that all my GOP friends are mad and will never vote for him again since he broke the rules and went to inform tRump about the FBI gang of eight like Nunez did and he is a traitor to the country and a liar.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:05 PM

14. Thanks.

I already emailed my (R) rep this morning. Didn't mention my party affiliation because it shouldn't matter to him.

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Response to llmart (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:12 PM

15. Exactly...this is the law

and one party does not get a free pass (even the hypocritical "law and order party".

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:01 AM

2. All of those active investigations...

Are the veritable wild cards for the coming weeks. Any of the prosecutors from those investigations may have wanted to wait until after the release of the Mueller report before going public with indictments. Now the report is out. We’ll see what happens. I suspect that each investigation will sting Trumpy’s approval ratings. Those predicting that Trump will walk may not have been aware that those investigations add more jokers to the deck.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:24 AM

3. Okay, so we impeach, then what? You think the Republican held Senate will follow through?

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:09 AM

4. We make Republicans go on the record for not removing him from office

and then we spend the next two years letting them try to campaign on their reasons for it in the face of overwhelming evidence that he has committed multiple felonies both before and after taking office.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:11 AM

6. +1 n/t

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:54 AM

9. +1. Let them defend the traitor.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:14 PM

17. Everyone already knows that they won't vote to convict.

And most people already know he's committed crimes. Polling numbers are in the 65% range, and that was before the report.

Neither is going to be much of a shock to anyone. People know who Trump is and what he's done. Some care, some don't, some know and support him anyway.

The jury on Trump was out a long, long time ago.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:32 PM

19. Well, if nothing we do is going to get good results, let's at least do the right thing.

You know, the thing that doesn't establish a historical precedent that you can steal an election, use your office to enrich yourself, ignore requests from law enforcement, abuse your power to attack your enemies in the press and in Congress, put kids in cages, threaten to withhold disaster relief funds from parts of the country that don't vote for you and everyone will sit around on their ass doing nothing because 40% of the population is too stupid, greedy or self-absorbed to understand the threat that you pose to democracy and to world peace.

Fuck that. And every single Democrat should be out on every single media outlet hammering that point every single hour between now and the election.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:59 PM

21. They are already on the record. nt

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:49 AM

7. I think that's no longer something we should be concerned with.

We don't have any choice but to impeach if we want to hold the moral high ground. If we're going to talk about the rule of law and abiding it, we cannot base our decision to impeach on whether or not the Republicans in the Senate will do the right thing.

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Response to llmart (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:56 PM

16. We'd be handing the Presidency to Mike Pence.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:26 PM

18. Pence is unelectable on the national stage

and with a Democratic majority in Congress, there's not much he can get up to. Or at least, any threat that Pence poses, Trump also poses x1000.

I'll take a year of Pence to get rid of Trump.

That also assumes that Pence isn't up to his neck in it as well. He was the head of the transition while all these illegal meetings (Flynn, Sessions, etc.) were going on with the Russians. And Rachel Maddow has pointed out several obvious lies he has told about them.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:57 PM

20. Thank you for posting what I was going to say.

They don't even like Pence in Indiana. Plus, I agree with you that he'd be sort of a lame duck. Besides, impeaching Trump doesn't mean he'll be removed. My point is that the process of impeachment is there for just this kind of behavior.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:03 PM

23. +1000

Pence is the least of my worries. He's impotent.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:47 AM

5. K&R

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:55 AM

10. I'm pleased to see a whole lot more people

are discussing impeachment than I ever would have dared to dream... This will save me SO much internet arguing...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:00 PM

22. This is the internet where this talk goes on. It's certainly not going on in real life. As a

matter of fact not one person I know anywhere has even brought up the Mueller report.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #22)

Sat Apr 20, 2019, 11:40 AM

24. That's you...

Quite a few of my friends and co-workers have been discussing it this week

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:55 AM

11. It is a very important point.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:49 PM

13. we either impeach, or we tacitly admit that the rule of law means nothing

Pick your poison, since you know the fucking GOP senate won't convict.

Putin really fucked this country over but good. It's really something.

Then again, all it really took was exploiting the nastiness and rot that was already there.

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