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Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:15 AM

Impeachment is for UNACCEPTABLE WRONGDOING by a President - NOT limited to technical crimes.

It's up to Congress to fully expose the wrongdoing - with impeachment investigations, proceedings - perhaps an impeachment trial...

And ultimately up to the public as to whether these fully exposed wrongdoings are deemed acceptable.


Presidential abuses of power are not usually crimes technically - but are considered "high crimes and misdemeanors" as referred to in the Impeachment Clause.

We never needed Mueller to find crimes - (though he obviously feels he found them as far as obstruction of justice).

Nothing Nixon did unto itself would constitute a specific technical crime.


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Reply Impeachment is for UNACCEPTABLE WRONGDOING by a President - NOT limited to technical crimes. (Original post)
ElementaryPenguin Apr 2019 OP
NeoGreen Apr 2019 #1
ElementaryPenguin Apr 2019 #2
rampartc Apr 2019 #3
ElementaryPenguin Apr 2019 #4
rampartc Apr 2019 #5

Response to ElementaryPenguin (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:22 AM

1. "Conduct Unbecoming" (nt)

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Response to NeoGreen (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:25 AM

2. Yes. Thanks.

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Response to ElementaryPenguin (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:39 AM

3. "high crimes and misdemeanors"

seem to be "technical crimes" to many people.

pres clinton was guilty of "perjury." certainly a crime.

nixon was not impeached, but the watergate operation was technically a "second rate burglary," with nixon as a conspirator.

i think we need to name a crime. maybe "fraud" on the trump university or or one of his condo scams? it doesn't matter. his supporters would not recognize "murder" as serious enough, so we need to find a clear cut crime.

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Response to rampartc (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:51 AM

4. Michael Cohen going to jail, in part

for committing a felony in violating Campaign Financing law. Trump, of course, was named as a co-conspirator. There's one crime he's already been accused of. So that one will do for a start. We have physical evidence - he signed 8 checks.

We can't worry about his hardcore supporters - they are Nazi lunatic fringe. (albeit a rather large "fringe"

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Response to ElementaryPenguin (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:08 PM

5. if campaign financing law is to mean anything, it must be enforced,

i think that is a great place to start.

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