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Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:29 AM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says Trump must be impeached

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-says-trump-072713650.html

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says Trump must be impeached over Mueller report obstruction of justice findings

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Reply Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says Trump must be impeached (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 OP
femmocrat Apr 2019 #1
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #6
dalton99a Apr 2019 #2
jcgoldie Apr 2019 #3
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #7
asiliveandbreathe Apr 2019 #26
Post removed Apr 2019 #27
KPN Apr 2019 #29
AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #52
KPN Apr 2019 #55
AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #56
KPN Apr 2019 #58
DallasNE Apr 2019 #49
LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #4
brooklynite Apr 2019 #5
George II Apr 2019 #8
watoos Apr 2019 #12
FoxNewsSucks Apr 2019 #9
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #16
Larrybanal Apr 2019 #28
pazzyanne Apr 2019 #33
Yavin4 Apr 2019 #35
comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #10
watoos Apr 2019 #13
comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #15
George II Apr 2019 #22
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #42
George II Apr 2019 #47
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #53
DallasNE Apr 2019 #11
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #43
Chakaconcarne Apr 2019 #14
Generic Other Apr 2019 #19
Anon-C Apr 2019 #17
Generic Other Apr 2019 #18
INdemo Apr 2019 #20
ElementaryPenguin Apr 2019 #21
honest.abe Apr 2019 #23
artislife Apr 2019 #24
yaesu Apr 2019 #25
RVN VET71 Apr 2019 #30
Baltimike Apr 2019 #31
triron Apr 2019 #32
KPN Apr 2019 #34
murielm99 Apr 2019 #36
lsewpershad Apr 2019 #37
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #44
FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #57
Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #38
iluvtennis Apr 2019 #39
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #45
The Liberal Lion Apr 2019 #40
KPN Apr 2019 #41
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #46
malaise Apr 2019 #48
WyattKansas Apr 2019 #50
Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2019 #54
jrthin Apr 2019 #51
Solomon Apr 2019 #59
live love laugh Apr 2019 #60
Paladin Apr 2019 #61

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:31 AM

1. I agree with AOC.

I think more democrats are coming to that realization. The upcoming hearings will be a treasure trove.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:47 AM

6. AOC leading the way... AGAIN!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:32 AM

2. Absolutely.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:35 AM

3. I trust Pelosi

But I also think that Democrats in safe blue districts like AOC have a role to play here and they should definitely be screaming for impeachment whether thats the actual plan or not.

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:48 AM

7. I trust AOC!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:06 AM

26. Exactly...n/t

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:16 AM

29. We need to do what is right here and stop playing 3-dimensional chess around "politics".

They fucking impeached Clinton for lying about having a sexual encounter. This fucker lies about everything, is driven by and makes personal profit every day he is in office at enormous costs to you and I, breaks laws every single day he is in office, and intentionally undermined the integrity of our electoral system in cahoots with our arch enemy -- all in the name of personal enrichment --- AND WE SHOULDN'T IMPEACH HIM?!

Look where Clinton's impeachment got the Rs! Eight years of GW! Look where blatant obstruction of Obama got the Rs -- the frigging nightmare we have in the WH now! Let alone decades of a majority in the SCOTUS.

Wake up intelligent, thoughtful people! It's time for us to stop trying to finess and start playing tough!

ITMF Now!

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Response to KPN (Reply #29)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:50 PM

52. to my knowledge trump never testified under oath? has he?

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #52)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 03:17 PM

55. Nope. Hasn't testified in any setting whatsoever,

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Response to KPN (Reply #55)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:23 PM

56. like kellyann famously said

lying is not a crime unless itís under oath

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:39 PM

58. Yup. There's no way he can ever testify under oath.

Is that a person who should be the President of the USA?

Iíll answer that ó No way in hell!

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:36 AM

49. Agree Completely

Good cop, bad cop. What a concept.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:41 AM

4. THIS RIGHT HERE....

Period!!!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:41 AM

5. ...from the safety and security of her D+29 district.

we didn't win the House because of candidates like AOC. We won based on moderate Democrats focusing on kitchen table economic issues that voters in marginal districts cared about.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:03 AM

8. Precisely. We can't rush into anything before everything in the report is fully analyzed....

....and a case is built.

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Response to George II (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:23 AM

12. We aren't going to get the full report unless we impeach.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:09 AM

9. OK, then how about this strategy:

Let those moderate Democrats in gerrymandered districts focus on the issues, infrastructure, eliminating republicon tax scams that take from workers and shower it on billionaires and corporations.

Let AOC and others in "safe" districts lead the impeachment. From what I've seen of the freshmen performance in hearings so far, they'll do a great job.

It's ridiculous to think that the House can't separate their focus, and act on more than one thing at a time. Then, next year, Dems run on "This over here is what we are working on FOR America, and that over there is how we are holding criminals accountable".

Furthermore, we need this all to be made public. Let the Senate trial be as public as Clinton's trial. If republicons don't vote to convict, it will be crystal clear to everyone how corrupt they also are. Republicon voters who don't care aren't going to vote D anyway.

Also, we need to give the Senate something to do besides spending all their time packing the courts with crazy rightwing judges.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:34 AM

16. Like it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:16 AM

28. fuck moderate

 

we need to become the opposite of the repugs..not 30 more years of repug light

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Response to Larrybanal (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:31 AM

33. Thank you for "fucking" your moderate DU members -NOT!

Your comment only divides Democrates. Are you sure you want to do that? I believe that we are stronger together and flaming is not going to help that happen. You may want to rethink your post IMHO.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:37 AM

35. Oh please stop with the "safe district" nonsense.

If we operated solely on the basis of how many "safe districts" we have, we would have never made any progress on anything.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:19 AM

10. Does she have any ideas on how to get a conviction in the Senate or will

she be content with tilting at windmills?

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:26 AM

13. That's not her job.

 

It is her Constitutional duty to impeach a president who is unfit to carry out his duties. If the Senate fails to convict, they need to be chastised over it.

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Response to watoos (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:32 AM

15. Sometimes it's important to let reality intrude...

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Response to watoos (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:52 AM

22. It's not her job to unilaterally call for impeachment, either.

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Response to George II (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:14 AM

42. Yes it is. It's each Democrat's job!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:25 AM

47. I trust our Democratic leaders to do the right thing. They call the shots in the House.

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Response to George II (Reply #47)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:52 PM

53. Alrighty then

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:20 AM

11. Not Yet Ready To Go There

The process is necessarily sequential and impeachment is not the next step so we need to stay focused on the next step and Nancy Pelosi seems to me to be on top of things. We may be at the crossroads in 4-6 months when the decision will likely be the choice between impeachment and the 2020 election with or without some sort of censure.

One thing does seem pretty sure. Our Constitution needs some serious upgrades because it no longer provides for a form of checks and balances. Several factors have brought this about but none is bigger than Citizens United and the money corruption that this unleashed.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:16 AM

43. WTH 4 to 6 months? Write up articles this weekend.

Point to Mueller report. Announce vote to impeach. Now!!! Each moment separates us from the momentous moment yesterday.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:31 AM

14. This is okay.... even if you don't believe it's time....

We have a dual message.... We believe impeachment is necessary, but leadership says now is not the time.....

Plant the seed of impeachment possibility in the minds of Americans... get THEM thinking about it, even if it's not yet a serious discussion...

The GOP does this all the time.... Have your cake and eat it to.

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Response to Chakaconcarne (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:39 AM

19. I think if Americans rise up and demand impeachment

Democrats will follow.

We need to start screaming!!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:34 AM

17. Fly her apart then!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:38 AM

18. She is not afraid to speak her mind

The GOP will destroy her if they can. Makes her a hero to me. A woman with spine.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:41 AM

20. Impeach now is correct and put the impeachment issue on

McConnell and the rest of the Repukes and that will show they are also corrupt..going into 2020 which could/will lead to the Senate takeover

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:43 AM

21. IT MUST BE DONE! IT IS TIME!!!

AOC is correct - and not afraid to speak the truth.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:54 AM

23. I finally agree with Alexandria on something!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:58 AM

24. I think congress is obligated

 

I mean, they have to work sometime, don't they?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:59 AM

25. The talking heads on MSM are saying we must wait, the election will fix it, not enough evidence so

that means impeachment is the best & right thing to do, shut everything down, no more passing budgets, no more anything until tRump is out.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:17 AM

30. You know AOC is striking a nerve when the Trump-Right responds:

Just checked out a RW site (so y'all don't have to) and the comments on her call for impeachment include "she should be lobotomized" "she ought to be put in a mental asylum," and, one I favor because of its implicit ignorance "has she even read the American constitution?" -- with an odd emphasis on "American" -- as if the RW has a secret "American" constitution that permits the lobotomizing and institutionalizing of non-Republicans. Ya see? All very cogent, thoughtful and well informed responses! The poor things are panicking so publicly it's almost painful to see.

Republican legislators have already issued warnings to stay away from this intelligent woman with the fiery wit, with the idiot from KY -- who invited her to speak to coal miners in his district even though his district has no coal mines - prompting another fascist-manquee gopper to warn that "we must avoid debating this issue [of coal vs the green new deal] with her and, instead, debate only people we can handle." (Find me a dumb democrat to debate!)

The view among Republicans -- especially gratis AOC -- is "Dems be smart, we be not-smart. Dems know stuff and stuff ain't on our side."

If only we could depend on the intelligence of the electorate to vote its self-interests, the GOP would be such a teeny-tiny party that even the Flat Earthers would have more gravitas and followers, and the Dems would rule the land.

(Admittedly, the Dems' ruling would come with its own set of caveats, but the vote wouldn't be restricted, immigrants wouldn't be caged, the climate would stand a chance of repair, and the opioid crisis would be solved not by jailing addicts but, rather, the billionaires (like the Sackler family) who have gotten fat and rich by creating those addicts.)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:26 AM

31. well, she's in a position to do it and we're not, so....

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:29 AM

32. A thousand times!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:37 AM

34. We don't have a defensible choice other than to impeach that doesn't just smack of "politics" ...

the stuff that most Americans despise about Washington. Strategery is irresponsible in the face of the past and on-going onslaught against democracy, the Constitution and"rule of law" by tRump and his GOP enablers.

ITMF!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:45 AM

36. So do many other people.

This does not make her a leader.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:46 AM

37. And establishment dems

say "not worth it".

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Response to lsewpershad (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:18 AM

44. Hmm. THEY may not be worth it come reelection either.

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Response to lsewpershad (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 04:28 PM

57. To establishment ... anything ... only campaign contributions are worth it

Most don't really have any beliefs to fight for

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:49 AM

38. The Intercept is going to turn on her now...

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 10:55 AM

39. Agree with AOC/others to impeach on obstruction of justice. I know it'll never get the majority

vote in the Senate, but I want Dems on the record of doing the right thing.

And I'm tired of the media argument that Dems need to be focused on other things for the 2020 election. Dems can walk and chew gum at the same time, so they can do both.

And most important, we lose the process of democracy by letting trump and his cronies think they can do whatever the f they want and get away with it.

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #39)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:21 AM

45. What happens when Pelosi says no? No vote? Or

A failed outcome? We've been worrying about Senate. What about House after Nancy says no? I will be so pissed.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:01 AM

40. And she is right

The House should do it's job and not worry about the politics. They have a job given to them by the constitution. We have a criminal and a traitor in the White House. He may not be removed by the Senate, but that will be their decision. The House must do it's duty. Period!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:02 AM

41. I called my Congressman's office in DC as well as Pelosi's and Nadler's to express my support

for holding this kleptomaniac occupying our WH accountable for his criminal actions and intent now as a Congressional priority by initiating impeachment.

The only way we will see anything meaningful happen is to keep the pressure on our legislators. There are too many talking heads saying one of two things: that most Americans want Congress to move on from investigating to doing the work of legislating; and/or Dems will lose in 2020 if they impeach because most Americans accept the findings of the Mueller Report as laid out by Barr. Both of them are GOP spin! Don't buy it!

Clinton was impeached by the rogue GOP for lying about a sexual encounter. What did that get the GOP? GW Bush in the WH for two terms. They played hardball. Yeah, they stole 2000, but they played hardball and got away with it.

The GOP obstructed Obama for 8 straight years. Hardball again. What did they get for that? A majority in the SCOTUS that could last for decades, not to mention the illegitimate POS in the WH now.

Are we going to let them get away with it again?

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Response to KPN (Reply #41)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:22 AM

46. Love "kleptomaniac"

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 11:26 AM

48. I am pleased to see subpoenas sent out today

Lots of hearings coming up in two weeks and then decisions will be made.

Go Dems!!

ITTMF!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

50. The ONLY message Democrats need to be repeating after being asked about impeachment...

The Republican controlled Senate will never allow it. When you give the Republican Party any control in Congress, they keep corrupting and covering it up to harm United States.

Democrats need to keep repeating simple messages everywhere that the Republicans are hiding the truth and hurting everyone in the country. Keep pointing out all of the Republican failures, lies, tricks, games, and deeds instead of treating any of them as though they are honorable and respectable. They are all frauds!

Is the problem coming from some sitting on the same boards, belonging to the same clubs, or being in the same social groups outside of government???

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 02:40 PM

54. We have no unified messaging. Sad but true. Weve

Got the mist vile and evil crook in charge and we still don't have a unified message. No ads. Silence

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 12:42 PM

51. I am with her!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:46 PM

59. Release the Kracken!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:49 AM

60. PLEASE nt

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Apr 20, 2019, 07:51 AM

61. I'm with AOC.

Enough of all this wallowing around in trump's shit. Time to take decisive action.

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