Finally! Nadler did it.

[triron]

Link to tweet

[lindysalsagal]

1. May 1st. Always another delay. I see no reason for it. WALK DOWN THE DAMN HALL AND DROP IT!

I swear! Does the rest of the world allow 10 days between demands and replies??? Can I wait 10 days to pay my restaurant bill? Rent? Mortgage? If my boss says there's a meeting, can I delay it 10 days?

[FakeNoose]

3. The House is on break next week

Well it's called "District Work Period" but I think means they're out of Washington and in their home districts for the week. Conveniently it coincides with Easter week and Passover.

[lindysalsagal]

5. That only means they're not expected in dc offices or floor votes: It doesn't stop someone from

sending an intern with a thumb drive to a congress person's location.

[jmowreader]

7. The government DOES have secure FTP

I want the file to come from Mueller’s own computer. That way we know it’s accurate.

[Perseus]

10. Agreed...what is the need to give them so much time

Always a risk they will tamper with the information.

[ehrnst]

19. Because there are procedures that have to be followed.

https://www.weil.com/~/media/files/pdfs/subpoenas-responding-to-a-subpoena.pdf

[Sherman A1]

22. Precisely

Things are happening rather quickly in this entire process. That we have become so accustomed to instant gratification makes that difficult for many to accept that procedures and process require these time frames.

[ehrnst]

15. So, you're familiar with these procedures?

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Are you a lawyer?

Can you tell me what is wrong in this document?

https://www.weil.com/~/media/files/pdfs/subpoenas-responding-to-a-subpoena.pdf

[jayschool2013]

17. If you're a journalist

and you've ever filed a Freedom of Information Act or state open-records-law request, you know that simply forwarding a file to someone takes much more time and money than you might imagine.

It's frustrating.

[HuskyOffset]

21. Isn't that over 1 million pages?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that all the "underlying materials" comprises around 1 million pages. If that has to be physically duplicated (I admit, I have no idea if stuff like this is done electronically or duplicated physically), how long would it take you to photocopy and organize 1 million pages?

[George II]

25. Most representatives are currently in their home districts. Nadler's two press conferences...

....were conducted from Manhattan. The House is in recess and won't be in session until April 29. May 1 is two days later.

[druidity33]

34. If my boss says I need to be in a meeting

for disciplinary reasons and I don't have a steward available or other factors involved make the scheduling complicated... it can sometimes take 2 weeks to have that meeting. As a shop steward I have intentionally slow-walked meetings. 10 days is the outside edge of that window though...

[Blecht]

2. Yes - this is action!

Much better than just a tweet burn or a strongly worded letter.

Nadler really did have to wait to see what bullshit Barr would pull first.

He didn't waste any time getting that subpoena out -- less than 24 hours after getting the redacted report. Good on him.

[triron]

4. Why did he 'have to wait'?

[Blecht]

8. I'm not a lawyer

But I think it is analogous to any legal process -- you need to show that you tried all possible means to get what you are entitled to before you resort to strong legal action.

Issuing a subpoena before he saw what Barr was going to give him would be like filing a suit over a dispute before you received the response to a request you made to resolve it. Any legal action I've been involved in has worked that way.

Nadler, along with the rest of us, has received his response, and it has been confirmed that Barr is the scumbag he has always been.

Now is the time to subpoena every one of these fuckers.

[ehrnst]

16. Because that's the way it works.

You say, "We are going to be reasonable. You release the full report, by the day we agreed on. If you don't then we subpoena Mueller."

Then you wait for them to fuck up. You point out publicly that they didn't hold up their part of the deal, so you are completely justified in carrying out the consequence.

Who take someone seriously who moved the goalposts? If someone said, If you pay the money you owe by Friday, I won't report it to the credit bureau - then on Wednesday, they reported you to the credit bureau, what do you have to gain by paying them back at all?

[Raven123]

20. My bet is that no judge would rule until the redacted veesion was released

They just don’t like to step in until they absolutely have to.

[malaise]

6. How do you mean finally?

The report came out yesterday. Dems took the steps to organize the subpoena in advance because they knew ReTHUGs would release a redacted version the day before the recess.

Bravo Dems!!

[pdsimdars]

9. Yes, but why do they give them WEEKS to do it? They don't have to ship it, they can walk it over.

[BSdetect]

11. Yest another chunk of time wasted

[roamer65]

12. They're trying to stall until the November 2020 election.

They want the people to remove him from office.

Just IMO.

[watoos]

18. Bingo

[liberalnarb]

13. Good move.

Kudos to Rep Nadler.

[msongs]

14. did what? nt

[Nitram]

23. "Finally?" He couldn't very well subpoena the report before it was released.

[George II]

24. Right. The subpoena was issued about 19 hours after the report was released. He had to see....

....what was actually released to demand what was wasn't.

[DownriverDem]

26. Exactly

There seems to be a lot of folks who don't know how it all works.

[Honeycombe8]

28. True. nt

[Honeycombe8]

27. BOOM! Fingers crossed. Hope they get it. God, I hope they get it.

The ones with security clearances are ENTITLED to see the entire thing, except maybe Grand Jury testimony.

Then they can release to the public the parts that aren't classified. If anything.

[DownriverDem]

30. It will

end up before the Supreme Court. This is beginning to look so much like the fight Nixon had too.

[Honeycombe8]

32. So far, Nixon would be winning. :( nt

[doc03]

29. They will ignore it and apparently there is nothing

to enforce it. Like they had to give up Trump's tax returns they just say no.

[DownriverDem]

31. Yes there is

Supreme Court will rule. Google the fight Nixon had with requests. He finally lost.

[doc03]

33. The supreme court is a joke, owned by the Republicans nt

[triron]

35. Have the democrats given up?