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Solomon

(12,310 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:11 PM Apr 2019

Ok I've had enough. Release the Kracken. Impeach the #ucker.

What's "reasonable" is starting to tilt the other way. Let the Senate be the traitors, assholes that they are. We can't give Congress an out and punt to the people. That precedent would be too damned dangerous. Not when they can cheat to win.

Everybody is fucking punting. It's time to run the damn ball.

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Ok I've had enough. Release the Kracken. Impeach the #ucker. (Original Post) Solomon Apr 2019 OP
K&R n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #1
i was on the fence about impeachment until i saw the report.This man has GOT to go.. samnsara Apr 2019 #2
I've been reading it too and I'm fed up. Solomon Apr 2019 #4
+1, I've worked in IT all my life ... I"m gobsmacked at the amount of data Russians had access to uponit7771 Apr 2019 #5
Yeah he's got to go except impeachment won't even do it! Anybody who is too busy to read the report UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #6
But, but, but we might fumble! Then what would happen? ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #3
That's all we do is play defense. Solomon Apr 2019 #8
I was listening to bdamomma Apr 2019 #7
Well one flaw with this is his followers are going to come out and vote for him no matter what. UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #9
They are going to do that anyway. Solomon Apr 2019 #12
I'll give you this too. Mr. Evil Apr 2019 #15
To not impeach given his conduct sets a terrible precedent. Solomon Apr 2019 #10
nt bdamomma Apr 2019 #11
That is like saying, "if we Impeach him, his voters will get mad and beat us up" world wide wally Apr 2019 #19
I'm in. If we don't then we can just call him King Trump. EveHammond13 Apr 2019 #13
K&R UTUSN Apr 2019 #14
If we don't, the historical record will show Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #16
Mythbustrrs world wide wally Apr 2019 #17
The puppet is a national security risk. suegeo Apr 2019 #18
Yes. Force Senate Republicans to go on record voting to protect an obvious criminal. tclambert Apr 2019 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #21
Failure to impeach would be to wallow in apathy Cirque du So-What Apr 2019 #22
I agree. And to wallow in apathy is a certain way to dishearten voters and smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #24
Hold tight..Nancy Pelosi has gotten the message from the majority of Democratic voters INdemo Apr 2019 #23
I'm confident that Pelosi will do the right thing at the right time. Solomon Apr 2019 #25

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
2. i was on the fence about impeachment until i saw the report.This man has GOT to go..
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:19 PM
Apr 2019

...even my dtr who is a dem, but never political, posted on her FB acct the HORROR with which she read the report. One...she READ the report ( a busy mom of two teen girls need i say more)..TWO that she realized the seriousness of it.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
4. I've been reading it too and I'm fed up.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:42 PM
Apr 2019

We can't allow the standard for impeachment to become proof of a crime which is what they are doing. Adam Schiff is right. Unethical conduct which undermines our values and democracy must remain a factor. Besides which. From my reading of the report, crimes were clearly committed even if Mueller didn't want to say so.

And then consider the fact that he's promising pardons to people willing to break the law for him. That right there should have broken the camel's back.

This thing is going way too far.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
5. +1, I've worked in IT all my life ... I"m gobsmacked at the amount of data Russians had access to
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:57 PM
Apr 2019

... and people are intimating that we should not believe they took no benefit from.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
6. Yeah he's got to go except impeachment won't even do it! Anybody who is too busy to read the report
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:03 PM
Apr 2019

well just gaze at the table of contents to get an idea of what the hell.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. But, but, but we might fumble! Then what would happen?
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 06:23 PM
Apr 2019

Better to have a good defense than to win the game. Amirite?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
8. That's all we do is play defense.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:06 PM
Apr 2019

Time to run it right down their throats! Right up the gut!

Let's do some damn offense for a change.

bdamomma

(63,840 posts)
7. I was listening to
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:04 PM
Apr 2019

Randi Rhodes today, She brought the point if impeaching him is on the table his supporters would protect and vote for him again and if the Congress does not do their Constitutional job people will stay home and not vote.

What do you guys think??

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
9. Well one flaw with this is his followers are going to come out and vote for him no matter what.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:08 PM
Apr 2019

The rest of it, Rhodes is too early with that kind of speculation.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
12. They are going to do that anyway.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:17 PM
Apr 2019

"Aw let's not do anything because the deplorables will vote for the bastard". Got news for you. That horse has already left the barn.

They can't win without cheating. Yet this argument is to allow the cheating to continue. Have you heard this administration say one word about stopping Russia from interfering? Of course not! Not one thing has been done to diminish Russian interference. Nothing.

Mr. Evil

(2,841 posts)
15. I'll give you this too.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:28 PM
Apr 2019

If you take electronic voting machines from MI, FL, WI, PA or GA I'd be willing to bet that if you vote 100% D out of 100 test votes it wouldn't come out 100-0. More like 94-6 or 95-5. They are either compromised from within or the Russians hacked the results.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
10. To not impeach given his conduct sets a terrible precedent.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 07:11 PM
Apr 2019

It's time for that old typing learning tool phrase: "Now is the time for all good men (and women) to come to the aid of their country".

I can't think of anything more patriotic at the moment than to put your career on the line for your country. Damn the torpedoes!

world wide wally

(21,741 posts)
19. That is like saying, "if we Impeach him, his voters will get mad and beat us up"
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:37 PM
Apr 2019

On the other hand if we don't impeach him, how many Democratic voters are going to throw their hands up an say, "fuck voting. It doesn't make any difference who wins"

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
16. If we don't, the historical record will show
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:28 PM
Apr 2019

That Bill Clinton was impeached, but a Democratic house did not see fit to impeach Trump. Is that really the legacy the Democratic House wants to leave behind?

world wide wally

(21,741 posts)
17. Mythbustrrs
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:32 PM
Apr 2019

Yes, Clinton's personal approval went up immediately after he was impeached, BUT..
The GOP then won the House, the a Senate, and the WH in the following elections.

People aren't going to like the Democrats for being afraid to do their jobs.

suegeo

(2,573 posts)
18. The puppet is a national security risk.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:35 PM
Apr 2019

Christ on a trailer hitch, fight back. It's urgent.

Get rid of him, before he stages a Reichstag Fire Sept. the 11th moment.

He's a mobbed up goon, he is putin's puppet.

He and his filthy party suck at security, (see Sept. 2001). They let our enemy attack our Democracy in 2016. They purged all the best people at tracking Russians. Because they want to do Putins bidding. MOB.

They looked the other way at "lights blinking red" in 2001. They are horrible at governing, they steal all our money and take away our rights.

They never go away, they just come back more virulent and ugly than ever.
Hold them to account, for once.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
20. Yes. Force Senate Republicans to go on record voting to protect an obvious criminal.
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 08:42 PM
Apr 2019

The furious backlash will make 2020 an even bigger blue wave than 2018.

Response to Solomon (Original post)

Cirque du So-What

(25,932 posts)
22. Failure to impeach would be to wallow in apathy
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019

The people deserve hearings on this existential threat to democracy.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. I agree. And to wallow in apathy is a certain way to dishearten voters and
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:18 PM
Apr 2019

would be voters. We have to put politics aside and do the right thing for our country and our party.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
23. Hold tight..Nancy Pelosi has gotten the message from the majority of Democratic voters
Fri Apr 19, 2019, 09:14 PM
Apr 2019

and when the evidence is ready fro presentation then....Trump is fucked.
We wont have to go through the total impeachment process because voters will demand the Senate impeach and Trump like Nixon will resign,.

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