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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOk I've had enough. Release the Kracken. Impeach the #ucker.
What's "reasonable" is starting to tilt the other way. Let the Senate be the traitors, assholes that they are. We can't give Congress an out and punt to the people. That precedent would be too damned dangerous. Not when they can cheat to win.
Everybody is fucking punting. It's time to run the damn ball.
rzemanfl
(29,556 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)...even my dtr who is a dem, but never political, posted on her FB acct the HORROR with which she read the report. One...she READ the report ( a busy mom of two teen girls need i say more)..TWO that she realized the seriousness of it.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)We can't allow the standard for impeachment to become proof of a crime which is what they are doing. Adam Schiff is right. Unethical conduct which undermines our values and democracy must remain a factor. Besides which. From my reading of the report, crimes were clearly committed even if Mueller didn't want to say so.
And then consider the fact that he's promising pardons to people willing to break the law for him. That right there should have broken the camel's back.
This thing is going way too far.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... and people are intimating that we should not believe they took no benefit from.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)well just gaze at the table of contents to get an idea of what the hell.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Better to have a good defense than to win the game. Amirite?
Solomon
(12,310 posts)Time to run it right down their throats! Right up the gut!
Let's do some damn offense for a change.
bdamomma
(63,840 posts)Randi Rhodes today, She brought the point if impeaching him is on the table his supporters would protect and vote for him again and if the Congress does not do their Constitutional job people will stay home and not vote.
What do you guys think??
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)The rest of it, Rhodes is too early with that kind of speculation.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)"Aw let's not do anything because the deplorables will vote for the bastard". Got news for you. That horse has already left the barn.
They can't win without cheating. Yet this argument is to allow the cheating to continue. Have you heard this administration say one word about stopping Russia from interfering? Of course not! Not one thing has been done to diminish Russian interference. Nothing.
Mr. Evil
(2,841 posts)If you take electronic voting machines from MI, FL, WI, PA or GA I'd be willing to bet that if you vote 100% D out of 100 test votes it wouldn't come out 100-0. More like 94-6 or 95-5. They are either compromised from within or the Russians hacked the results.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)It's time for that old typing learning tool phrase: "Now is the time for all good men (and women) to come to the aid of their country".
I can't think of anything more patriotic at the moment than to put your career on the line for your country. Damn the torpedoes!
world wide wally
(21,741 posts)On the other hand if we don't impeach him, how many Democratic voters are going to throw their hands up an say, "fuck voting. It doesn't make any difference who wins"
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)That Bill Clinton was impeached, but a Democratic house did not see fit to impeach Trump. Is that really the legacy the Democratic House wants to leave behind?
world wide wally
(21,741 posts)Yes, Clinton's personal approval went up immediately after he was impeached, BUT..
The GOP then won the House, the a Senate, and the WH in the following elections.
People aren't going to like the Democrats for being afraid to do their jobs.
suegeo
(2,573 posts)Christ on a trailer hitch, fight back. It's urgent.
Get rid of him, before he stages a Reichstag Fire Sept. the 11th moment.
He's a mobbed up goon, he is putin's puppet.
He and his filthy party suck at security, (see Sept. 2001). They let our enemy attack our Democracy in 2016. They purged all the best people at tracking Russians. Because they want to do Putins bidding. MOB.
They looked the other way at "lights blinking red" in 2001. They are horrible at governing, they steal all our money and take away our rights.
They never go away, they just come back more virulent and ugly than ever.
Hold them to account, for once.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)The furious backlash will make 2020 an even bigger blue wave than 2018.
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Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)The people deserve hearings on this existential threat to democracy.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)would be voters. We have to put politics aside and do the right thing for our country and our party.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)and when the evidence is ready fro presentation then....Trump is fucked.
We wont have to go through the total impeachment process because voters will demand the Senate impeach and Trump like Nixon will resign,.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)Very confident.