What is Plan B if tRump isn't impeached and we don't "beat him at the ballot box" in 2020?

[stopbush]

I’m hearing D pols saying that impeachment won’t lead to a conviction, and that the best course of action is to beat tRump in 2020 and replace him with a D.

OK.

And if he wins, what then? And if he has coattails and the Rs keep the Senate and take back the House, what then? And if the reason they take back the Congress is because D voters stayed home and didn’t vote because they were disgusted by the lack of spine exhibited by Ds who let a criminal get away with his crimes, what then?

We cannot assume that tRump will be defeated in 2020. Seems to me that is the riskiest plan we could have, especially when the Russians will no doubt be aiding tRump once again.

[riversedge]

1. Plan B?? really give up on saving MotherEarth

[honest.abe]

2. Move to Canada.

We are fucked.

[Historic NY]

3. Send him buckets of KFC & McDonalds

[suegeo]

4. He gets a Reichstag Fire and game over.

[abqtommy]

5. Can Democrats multitask?

Can we work toward impeachment AND winning the Senate/holding the House in 2020? I'm all in favor of going for the whole enchilada! Boy could we make tRump wish he'd never been born!

[Poiuyt]

6. I don't believe Dems will try to impeach before 2020

but if Trump wins, then they will move to impeach.

[moonscape]

19. If he wins, then it will be due to

enough voter suppression and cheating that could also flip the House.

[TwilightZone]

7. Take another route. He's impeached, he's acquitted, he gets a bounce and he wins in 2020.

At that point, he's basically bulletproof and can do anything he wants.

Unless, of course, we impeach him again post-election, which someone actually suggested in another thread.

Most of the things you're arguing are equally valid in my scenario, if not more so. No one really has any idea how impeachment would play out politically, but we all know it will fail at removal.

[Va Lefty]

8. I don't believe there are many constructive alternatives if we don't win in '20

It may well be "game over".

[GulfCoast66]

9. What if an impeachment with no conviction make a win for him in 2020 more likely?

Those of us who do not favor impeachment do not the he does not deserve it. Of course he does.

But we have to think strategically.

[stopbush]

11. So you think strategically, don't impeach him NOW while Ds hold the House

and risk losing the House in 2020 with tRump reelected.

Sounds like a plan.

[GulfCoast66]

12. how exactly does an impeachment with no conviction,

Which means he is still in office, make it more likely we lose the house?

You do understand, the Senate will never convict him. He will be the president in 20 regardless.

If the House Impeaches him the next 18 month will be all about impeachment.

Our plans for Healthcare, workers rights, minimum wage increase and all the things that won us the House in 18 will get no oxygen. And he will still be president.

We need to keep the information about him coming out but focus on passing population legislation to watch the republicans kill it.

Then we keep the house and win the Senate and Presidency in 20

If we impeach and he wins on conviction, which he will, then most Americans will see more partisan shit in Washington and vote for the status quo.

My opinion. Others is good meaning may disagree.

[ecstatic]

15. Do you think healthcare and workers rights bills will get through the

Senate and trump? Dream on! More lame excuses. If they fail to hold trump accountable, they will be indistinguishable from the GOP. We can no longer say the GOP did nothing. Democrats will be blamed as well.

[radius777]

13. Impeachment is a constrained process

that could backfire on us, whereas investigations are not, and can take us to places outside of the Mueller focus, into Trump's family and criminalistic background - where Trump is far more vulnerable and could face state charges.

Impeachment also would put Dems in swing states/districts at risk by forcing them to take a position on it. Investigations don't do this and offer House Dems a way to weaken Trump as much as possible for 2020.

[eleny]

10. Be prepared for Trump to get away with everything

Rachel Maddow listed his transgressions and the expiration date for going after him for each. They all expire in 2022.

So if Russia gets him elected again, Dems don't impeach now and also lose the House majority in 2020 then Plan B is to accept pounding sand.

[ooky]

14. Move. Or learn how to ride this poop wave.

[Crunchy Frog]

16. Basically game-over for this country.

[aikoaiko]

17. Take more of the Senate and House.

[struggle4progress]

18. Get up! Stand up!