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NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:06 AM Apr 2019

Mueller footnote - Trump believed there was a tape in 2016

that could destroy his candidacy. Sounds like Donny knew there was a pee pee tape.




Text of tweet - bold added by me:

(THREAD) Mueller's *biggest* revelation is being ignored: the SCO confirms that in the weeks before the 2016 election, Trump believed Kremlin agents held videos of him from a 2013 Moscow trip that could end his candidacy. Please RETWEET this thread widely.

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Mueller footnote - Trump believed there was a tape in 2016 (Original Post) NewJeffCT Apr 2019 OP
I don't even know if he needs to worry about it at this point anarch Apr 2019 #1
If Trump thought it could end his candidacy NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #5
No, it was supposed to have been him watching them pee on the bed where Obama had slept... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #27
This is important -it means he had strong personal motive delisen Apr 2019 #2
Exactly. If he BELIEVED there was a tape, he was compromised. Ramsey Barner Apr 2019 #7
it also means, that tape or no (as you say) HE knows that something dirty enough Volaris Apr 2019 #14
This. calimary Apr 2019 #17
Keith Schiller - Chump's bodyguard - can say for sure FakeNoose Apr 2019 #28
it would not surprise me in the least if there was a pee tape barbtries Apr 2019 #3
The tape that would end his rule is safeinOhio Apr 2019 #4
He's basically called them that NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #6
Maybe that episode needs to be more widely discussed and amplified. blm Apr 2019 #10
Ah, the Lonesome Rhodes gambit! RVN VET71 Apr 2019 #11
A slip on live TV safeinOhio Apr 2019 #15
My money is on Melania RVN VET71 Apr 2019 #36
Sadly, no Cosmocat Apr 2019 #13
He called them "poorly educated" to their faces. Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #20
YYEEPPP Cosmocat Apr 2019 #23
Like Andy Griffith's character in PatSeg Apr 2019 #18
I think there are differences NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #25
Yes, I think you're right PatSeg Apr 2019 #35
no, he has already done that. JI7 Apr 2019 #21
There is a pee pee tape but I think Putin has much more than that jimlup Apr 2019 #8
agreed.n/t MBS Apr 2019 #9
I agree PatSeg Apr 2019 #19
This is alarming genxlib Apr 2019 #12
Trump went to "a golden showers show" in the spring of 2013 in Las Vegas w/Russians* Botany Apr 2019 #16
I'd be shocked NewJeffCT Apr 2019 #22
The show was provided for his entertainment FakeNoose Apr 2019 #30
I remember Trump's answer when asked about "the event" and it was something like, ... Botany Apr 2019 #32
K&R UTUSN Apr 2019 #24
And he couldn't say "That's not me in the tape. That's Hillary!" dalton99a Apr 2019 #26
Whether or not the tape involves pee, there was SOMETHING which Trump thought was on tape RockRaven Apr 2019 #29
Yep. He knew what he did dalton99a Apr 2019 #31
Underage Girls..... Pachamama Apr 2019 #33
Multiple ones, it's said Sparkly Apr 2019 #34

anarch

(6,535 posts)
1. I don't even know if he needs to worry about it at this point
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:13 AM
Apr 2019

I don't think any significant number of his followers would abandon him even if there were an indisputable video recording of him cavorting with a couple of ten year old girls or something (probably sent to his hotel room by Putin). They would just ignore it, call it "fake news," or find some way of excusing that sort of behavior since he is a divine, infallible being and all.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. If Trump thought it could end his candidacy
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:32 AM
Apr 2019

AFTER the "Grab 'em by the pussy" tape came out and he survived, it must be pretty damn bad.

Golden Showers would destroy his image as the Top Dog/Alpha Male

Outright racism towards the Obamas would have turned off moderates who didn't like Clinton and would have driven up African American turnout to record levels even beyond 2008 Obama.



 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
27. No, it was supposed to have been him watching them pee on the bed where Obama had slept...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 12:05 PM
Apr 2019

He would have been an even bigger Alpha. He may have even gotten a medal.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
2. This is important -it means he had strong personal motive
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:29 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:02 AM - Edit history (1)

to do Putin's bidding, and put the interests of Russia ahead of and in place of, that of the United States.

Ramsey Barner

(349 posts)
7. Exactly. If he BELIEVED there was a tape, he was compromised.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:49 AM
Apr 2019

And is therefore a risk to national security.
Whether or not the tape exists is a separate issue.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
14. it also means, that tape or no (as you say) HE knows that something dirty enough
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:30 AM
Apr 2019

to BE compromising IN THE FIRST PLACE, damn-well happened on that trip.
Put him under oath and lets ask him.
Then lets impeach the motherfucker when he lies to Congress about it.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
28. Keith Schiller - Chump's bodyguard - can say for sure
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 12:06 PM
Apr 2019

Keith Schiller needs to be questioned under oath. He knows whether Chump spent time with prostitutes in Moscow, even though he may not have been in the room when it happened. Chump says he didn't even stay overnight, but we know that's not true.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
3. it would not surprise me in the least if there was a pee tape
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:34 AM
Apr 2019

the thing is, so what? he could be jacking off while they're pissing into his mouth and his cult would still worship him. he's bragged about sexual abuse, being a peeping tom, cheating on every single one of his 3 wives, none of it matters. not to them.

he's a disgusting low life. a criminal and a sociopath, and they think he's gawd.

safeinOhio

(32,673 posts)
4. The tape that would end his rule is
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:27 AM
Apr 2019

one of him calling his base a bunch of stupid suckers. That would work better than a tape of him having sex with a young boy and a dead girl in a threesome.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. He's basically called them that
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 07:33 AM
Apr 2019

making fun of Jeff Sessions being stupid and from Alabama/the South... those Southern whites are a big part of his Deplorable base

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
11. Ah, the Lonesome Rhodes gambit!
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:18 AM
Apr 2019

If there was such a tape and it were made public, Trump and Fox would scream "Fake news and what about Benghazi and Pizzagate and Obama's a Kenyan and Democrats were slave owners and, and, and, homocracy!" and the Dems would determine that using it in the campaign might alienate some voters.

But it would be nice!

safeinOhio

(32,673 posts)
15. A slip on live TV
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:38 AM
Apr 2019

could add some authenticity.

Lonesome Rhodes in the real world. Which Lady in his life would leave the mike on?

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
36. My money is on Melania
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:12 PM
Apr 2019

It would certainly redeem her in the eyes of the intelligent public.

If only . . . .

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
13. Sadly, no
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:27 AM
Apr 2019

He treats them with utter contempt as it is.

They have been effectively brainwashed from decades of conservative media, that their hatred of the evil liberal trumps any and everything.

They would line up tp let him defacate on them at this point ...

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
20. He called them "poorly educated" to their faces.
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:23 AM
Apr 2019

And they literally cheered him for it.

As I've said before, Trump could promise to rape their wives and daughters, and they would leave the front door open and a bucket of KFC Extra Crispy on the nightstand for him.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
18. Like Andy Griffith's character in
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:17 AM
Apr 2019

"A Face in the Crowd", who was caught on a live mic talking about his adoring fans.

Lonesome Rhodes: Those morons out there? Shucks, I could take chicken fertilizer and sell it to them as caviar. I could make them eat dog food and think it was steak. Sure, I got 'em like this... You know what the public's like? A cage of Guinea Pigs. Good Night you stupid idiots. Good Night, you miserable slobs. They're a lot of trained seals. I toss them a dead fish and they'll flap their flippers.


Yes, that is the type of tape that would penetrate their mindless adoration of Trump. As for a "pee tape", I think that for some reason, Trump is actually embarrassed by his perversions. His hard core base would probably excuse or even applaud it, which was made clear by their reaction to the Access Hollywood tape.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
25. I think there are differences
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 11:59 AM
Apr 2019

the Access Hollywood is the "Alpha Male" image that Trump has projected - going up & taking women.

The pee tape is a complete 180 from that

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
19. I agree
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:20 AM
Apr 2019

I've heard mention of "tapes", more than one. Putin is no amateur. He would have accumulated a lot of damaging material and with Trump, it would be so easy.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
12. This is alarming
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:19 AM
Apr 2019

I do not see how this could possibly be resolved

If he was worried, it means he knows there was an activity and opportunity that could have produced such a tape.

How could there possibly be any change to that scenario? Russia has done nothing to hurt Trump while lying to him all the while. There is no way that anyone (Mueller and Trump included) could know that the tape doesn't exist.

That is a compromised position. Aside from everything else, Trump is setting Russia policy with the idea in the back of his mind that they still hold the goods on him.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
16. Trump went to "a golden showers show" in the spring of 2013 in Las Vegas w/Russians*
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 09:00 AM
Apr 2019
https://uproxx.com/news/trump-oligarchs-lewd-vegas-club-golden-showers/

* allegedly

The pee pee show that was in Trump's hotel room in Moscow was in the fall of
2013 .... Putin knew what Trump liked.

BTW the # of things that have been proven false in the Steele Dossier is zero.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. I'd be shocked
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 11:07 AM
Apr 2019

if there wasn't a pee tape. It really seems right up his alley to hire Russian hookers to pee on the bed where the Obamas slept.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
30. The show was provided for his entertainment
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 12:15 PM
Apr 2019

Chump would not have paid for anything, he just attended and enjoyed it. What Chump didn't realize at the time was that the REAL show was himself. That's how kompromat works. If Chump didn't know it, he was incredibly stupid.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
32. I remember Trump's answer when asked about "the event" and it was something like, ...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

... "I know where they hide the cameras." Not it didn't happen but that he knew where
they hide the cameras. Going to the Las Vegas "Golden Showers" show with some the
Russians told Putin what Trump's "sweet spot" as per getting kompromat on him. That
and the billions of dollars he got from the Russians in his money laundering operations
and bank loans from places like Deutche's bank because the US banks wouldn't give him
a dime because he was a deadbeat.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
29. Whether or not the tape involves pee, there was SOMETHING which Trump thought was on tape
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 12:15 PM
Apr 2019

which can control his behavior.

Given the way Putin/oligarchs/Russian intelligence operates, and what we know about Trump, it is almost certainly sex workers (willing or unwilling), possibly underage ones at that.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
34. Multiple ones, it's said
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 04:24 PM
Apr 2019

Can't find the sources now, and they're "intel sources say multiple other intel sources say," but this goes back to 1987... Someone on Bill Maher was talking about it recently (I hear it on podcast).

https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russia <- lots of links

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