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Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:49 AM

I have a question for all the Democratic presidential candidates and all the Democrats in Congress..

...and all the Democrats reading this post: If the implications in the Mueller report were about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton campaign instead of Trump and his campaign, would you move to impeach her?

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Reply I have a question for all the Democratic presidential candidates and all the Democrats in Congress.. (Original post)
Trueblue Texan Apr 2019 OP
rurallib Apr 2019 #1
marble falls Apr 2019 #2
manor321 Apr 2019 #3
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #6
el_bryanto Apr 2019 #4
manor321 Apr 2019 #5
el_bryanto Apr 2019 #8
beachbum bob Apr 2019 #7
Trueblue Texan Apr 2019 #9
Trueblue Texan Apr 2019 #10

Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:51 AM

1. yes

do I need to go into detail?

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:53 AM

2. And once this gets into a Congrssional impeachment process, all things being equal I'd vote to ...

impeach all three.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 07:58 AM

3. Of course. I don't get the question, really. The evidence is that the President must be removed.

 

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Response to manor321 (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:07 AM

6. Period! End of discussion!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:02 AM

4. Well that's pretty transparent

On the political strategy side, in both cases I would probably not recommend impeachment. On the moral side I probably would recommend impeachment.

Bryant

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:06 AM

5. On the political strategy side you'd encourage Russians and Trump to continue their collusion!

 

That makes no sense!

Impeachment is the only option.

So many people forget that Trump's bad acts are not confined to the past. He's still doing them and will be emboldened if we don't impeach.

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Response to manor321 (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:13 AM

8. Spoken like a real Trump supporter

You clearly want to rush to impeachment because you know that the chances of Trump avoiding looking culpable are higher the sooner we impeach. The more effective way to to fight Trump is to investigate and ridicule Trump to ensure that the Democratic Nominee humiliates trump.

In fairness I doubt you are pro Trump.

Bryant

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:21 AM

7. to be honest, if any democratic president has shown the blatant disreguard of the rule of law,

 

that trump and his circle have shown, the democratic leadership in Congress would be the first to push for impeachment.


no doubt in my mind

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:36 AM

9. I think you're right.

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Response to Trueblue Texan (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 06:57 AM

10. The responses here do not surprise me...

...I feel exactly that way. I did not support the impeachment of Bill Clinton ...because I felt he'd been pushed into the situation that finally caused him to break the law. Trump on the other hand, like another poster pointed out, has been breaking the law his entire life and is a lawless president as Rep. Swalwell put it so accurately last night.

Since I posed the question yesterday, Trump has pushed the envelope even further, challenging Congressional subpoenas, and ordering Treasury to stall on the request for his tax records. How far will his actions go to further undermine the foundations of this Democracy? Swalwell said for the good of his party, if not the good of the nation, Trump should do the right thing and stop fighting the subpoenas, stop claiming executive privilege regarding testimony already publicly produced in the Mueller report. Stop slowing down the process the Constitution charges Congress to carry out. But Swalwell forgot: Trump doesn't care about the Republican party, nor does he care about this nation.

Trump is no asset to the Republicans, but he is holding the cards, and the Republicans in Congress will continue to provide cover for him. Only the Democrats in Congress can force his hand and let the nation see how truly lawless he is--as if he hasn't provided ample evidence publicly. I just hope there are enough ethical Americans to see him for what he is when he's forced to show his full hand. I don't think we can count on Republicans to convict him in the Senate. But Democrats shouldn't allow Trump to hold them under his thumb the way he has Republicans. We should do what is right for our nation and not worry about political expediency. That IS why the Democrats took control of the House. If they don't show they have the backbone to hold this administration accountable, they won't likely hold the House.

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