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Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:53 AM

Oh boy. Ooooh boy. There is a new conservative comedy-show hosted by a MAGA. And it's so bad.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-trump-tv-channel-oan-has-a-comedy-show-so-terrible-it-might-actually-be-funny?ref=home

It's due next month and they have released segments as teasers. I made it halfway through the 8-minute teaser before I gave up. The only funny bit was where they compared Julian Assange to Tom Hank's character in castaway.

Let's consider for example the bit about illegal immigration:
1. The host tells the audience that the Trump-administration is doing everything to secure the border.
2. Then the host imitates Pelosi/Schumer admitting that illegal immigrants vote for Democrats.
3. Up next, he reads out an AOC-tweet where she calls on the US to focus on the underlying causes of immigration, like climate-change.
4. Not even adressing her point, the host calls her an idiot.

End of segment.

That's not comedy. He's parroting republican talking-points while insulting Democrats. How is that funny?
- There is no transition from reality to the bizzare. Does he even know that the Trump-administration refused a democratic offer to secure the border because it would have saved DACA? Does he even recognize that the immigration-policies of the Trump-administration are intentionally cruel by their own admission?
- Does he even know that no Democrat has ever said something like that? Does he know that illegal immigrants can't vote?
- And AOC's tweet would have been a chance to call her out and criticize her, to explain to the audience why she's wrong! And what do we get instead? "You're an idiot!"



You cannot have comedy if you refuse to accept reality in the first place.

One more piece of evidence that conservatives can't do comedy. And when people refuse to watch that boring and cringy shit, conservatives will cry discrimination.

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Reply Oh boy. Ooooh boy. There is a new conservative comedy-show hosted by a MAGA. And it's so bad. (Original post)
DetlefK Apr 2019 OP
rusty quoin Apr 2019 #1
scrutineer Apr 2019 #18
Hugin Apr 2019 #2
NanceGreggs Apr 2019 #3
Hugin Apr 2019 #6
JHB Apr 2019 #14
NYC Liberal Apr 2019 #4
rpannier Apr 2019 #5
MrScorpio Apr 2019 #7
VOX Apr 2019 #10
anarch Apr 2019 #8
scrutineer Apr 2019 #16
VOX Apr 2019 #9
PA Democrat Apr 2019 #11
Tarc Apr 2019 #12
VOX Apr 2019 #13
rickford66 Apr 2019 #15
DFW Apr 2019 #17

Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:01 AM

1. I've seen this type of shit for probably 20 years.

I heard Rush since the late 80s. It is comedy to them. They like cruelty. It makes them feel good.

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Response to rusty quoin (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:09 AM

18. google limbaugh sajak tv

Pat Sajak had a short lived late night tv show. Limbaugh guest hosted.

It was hilarious, but not in the way Limbaugh wanted.

They had to evict the studio audience.

Rushbo's flopsweat could have filled a swimming pool.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:08 AM

2. Did I just feel a lurch toward Idiocracy?

Right wing "comedy" has left many careers in ruins.

Trump's mocking of a disabled journalist qualifies in that venue. The MAGAts find such antics to be hilarious.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:11 AM

3. Think about their 'target' audience.

They are trying to appeal to people who think high comedy is putting a whoopy-cushion under Uncle Chester’s ass at the Christmas dinner table.

They’re too stupid to understand satire, too uneducated to comprehend nuance, and far too uninformed to ‘get’ references to current events as they have actually unfolded, rather than what they’ve been told is going on.

They’ve tried these shows before – they always fail spectacularly.

Republican knuckle-draggers (which is their target audience) just don’t have no humour genes – and that’s a fact.


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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:41 AM

6. and most importantly...

They don't buy anything. (With money, authoritarian horsecrap they gobble up by the ladle full) Outside of cheap beer and fast food.

A local radio station experimented with a Right-wing slant and after losing their advertisers, a couple of trips through receivership, and a change of ownership, it took them 25 years to recover profitability.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:50 AM

14. I think the main model is "Mallard Fillmore", the funniest thing about which...

...is the fact that it owes its continued existence to a quota system. Gotta balance out "liberal" strips like Doonsbury (and, in the past, Bloom County and The Boondocks) to get conservatives to complain at 3 decibels lower than usual.

The "joke" is always the same: Liberals are stupid and venal, Liberals are stupid and venal, Liberals are stupid and venal, etc. ad nauseum.

Never do they do what their "opposite numbers" have done, wandering off on their own tangents and, from time to time, poking fun at themselves.




The thing is, "Mallard" has relatively low overhead, can be read in a few seconds, and usually comes as a freebie in someone else's publication. Not really enough to support a TV show, at least not without heavy subsidy.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:14 AM

4. Good comedy is subversive, which is inherently antithetical to conservatism as a principle.

Conservative "comedy" almost always punches down. It's usually just mocking people who have little power.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:20 AM

5. So, what idiot is blowing a wad of cash on this failure?

I think they tried a comedy show a few years back (1/2 hours news hour?), supported by some actual (sort of) comedians and people with experience in TV and movies: Manny Coto, Joel Surnow, Ken Davitian, Dennis Miller, Kurt Long and it was a mess and a ratings disaster -- even the Chicago Tribune thought it was garbage

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:31 AM

7. Great comedy comes from truth that punches up...

Hence, why delusional bullies who always punch down are never ever funny.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:16 AM

10. Precisely! And the sharpest comics/comic actors are always outsiders.

They’re not in with the country-club set or knocking back brews in some redneck bar.

The classic masters — Dick Gregory, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Robin Williams, etc.) are all individuals who didn’t “fit in,” or who weren’t allowed to fit in. They’re on the outside looking in, always.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:33 AM

8. the "conservative" idea of comedy is to watch a minority be tormented

or a liberal get beat up or something. "Once again this year at the Conservative Film Review, the short film 'Man Gets Hit in Balls with Football' takes the top honors in the comedy category.

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Response to anarch (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:52 AM

16. Exactly. A bunch of seventh graders punching down on the littlest, weakest kid is laugh riot

for these freaks.

There's a reason there aren't any successful conservative comedians - comedy is in touch with reality and conservatives aren't.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:59 AM

9. Fascists like their "humor" crude, and it's always tough on underdogs.

Their speciality consists of taking shots at the impoverished, asylum seekers, POC, women, LGBT folk, etc.

There is absolutely nothing funny about it, unless you’re a Republican asshole who’s ginned up on fear and anger.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:17 AM

11. It's been tried before. Dennis Miller's show was a total flop.

They had to pay people to sit in the audience.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:29 AM

12. Conservatives are bad at comedy, even worse at parody & satire

It's out at the obscure, deep end of political memory, but does anyone remember Fox News' attempt at a right-leaning Daily Show?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1/2_Hour_News_Hour

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:34 AM

13. Fascist propaganda sprinkled on a steaming turd.

I actually watched the whole promo. It’d be perfect fodder for a public-access channel, where it could die a well-earned swift death.

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:51 AM

15. Comedy and satire must have the "ring of truth"

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Response to DetlefK (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:55 AM

17. What they will never get:

Incompetence and clumsiness can be funny. Meanness and cruelty are never funny.

That's why the Keystone Kops were funny. The St. Valentine's Day Massacre was not.
That's why everyone makes fun of Trump, not McConnell.

WHY will they never get it? Because the ones trying to be funny are mean and cruel. That's why.

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