Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:12 AM
Baltimike (2,164 posts)
It has now been a WEEK since we have confirmed that RUSSIA ATTACKED US
Cyber war is an act of war, and we are under attack as I type this.
When will the CONSERVATIVE PRESS ask the kGOPb what they are going to do about it? When will they ask MF45?
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Author | Time | Post |
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Baltimike | Apr 2019 | OP |
Ponietz | Apr 2019 | #1 | |
uponit7771 | Apr 2019 | #2 | |
former9thward | Apr 2019 | #3 | |
wasupaloopa | Apr 2019 | #4 | |
CincyDem | Apr 2019 | #7 | |
former9thward | Apr 2019 | #10 | |
Baltimike | Apr 2019 | #8 | |
former9thward | Apr 2019 | #11 | |
Arazi | Apr 2019 | #9 | |
ProudLib72 | Apr 2019 | #13 | |
C_U_L8R | Apr 2019 | #5 | |
spanone | Apr 2019 | #6 | |
UTUSN | Apr 2019 | #12 |
Response to Baltimike (Original post)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:14 AM
Ponietz (984 posts)
1. Did you see this from yesterday?
Response to Baltimike (Original post)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:16 AM
uponit7771 (59,611 posts)
2. They wont, they run from bullies and scary people
Response to Baltimike (Original post)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:18 AM
former9thward (21,903 posts)
3. What is your suggestion?
How do you want the U.S. to respond? Declare war? More useless sanctions? What?
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Response to former9thward (Reply #3)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:32 AM
wasupaloopa (4,516 posts)
4. Seize their assets in this country. Convict them so they can't travel to any of our allies.
We have to make life miserable for them
Most of all life in prison for any American helping them |
Response to former9thward (Reply #3)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:56 AM
CincyDem (4,255 posts)
7. Respectivully, this attack was all about sanctions...
Russia has been trying to get out from under sanctions for several years and this is their solution. If you mean "useless" because Republicans and this administration won't enforce them with any teeth, I agree. If you mean it because they don't put pressure on the sanctioned country - disagree. IIRC, the Pearl Harbor attack was precipitated sanctions on Japan (fuel, gasoline, copper, some grains...) that were in response to their aggressive moves into other counties (Vietnam - then Indochina I think, and China). There were negotiating to get sanctions removed and were willing to give up everything except withdrawal to get it except their China gains. When they reached that impasse, they concluded war was inevitable so they went on the offense. Obviously, there was a lot of things that led to Pearl Harbor but I do think there are some similarities to where we are today with Russia, including their aggressive moves into other countries. For years, I've said that WWIII won't be fought with bullets and bombs but rather with 1's and 0's so I look at this as our Cyber PH. We keep talking about what would happen if Trump was tested with a crisis - we don't have to wonder, we're seeing it. |
Response to CincyDem (Reply #7)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:42 PM
former9thward (21,903 posts)
10. Sanctions almost never change behavior.
Only war. I doubt the U.S. is willing to go to war to change Russian behavior. The Nazis killed 30 million Russians and Russia never surrendered (unlike western Europe ). I don't think sanctions, enforced or not enforced, will make them change.
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Response to former9thward (Reply #3)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:46 AM
Baltimike (2,164 posts)
8. "useless sanctions"?
Ummmmm....no
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Response to Baltimike (Reply #8)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:44 PM
former9thward (21,903 posts)
11. They are still in Ukraine.
Their economy is pretty much the same. How do you define "useful"?
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Response to former9thward (Reply #3)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:14 AM
Arazi (3,698 posts)
9. This is the strongest argument for impeachment. #Traitor refuses to protect our democracy
From attack by a hostile foreign power
He's clearly allowing the attacks to continue. Impeach on this and I don't see how even Rs can refute it. The Mueller report is damning enough but the Senate Rs have been given enough cover by Barr to shirk their responsibility - impeaching on that will fail imo. Let that stand on it's own record while holding hearings on it to continue to tarnish the #TraitorInChief. The real action is #Traitor's refusal to protect our democracy. That's well documented. Haspel, Coates, Wray, hell even Neilsen know he's actively blocked efforts to stop Russia. Bring them in under oath specifically on this question only. It's enough |
Response to former9thward (Reply #3)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:39 PM
ProudLib72 (17,984 posts)
13. Let them open aluminum plants in Kentucky?
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Response to Baltimike (Original post)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:47 AM
C_U_L8R (32,514 posts)
5. It's been confirmed over and over by our intel services
The Trumps and their Republican enablers have been trying to shield Russian interference since it began. We’ve always known.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/intel-chiefs-testify-global-threats-cybersecurity-and-elections |
Response to Baltimike (Original post)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:51 AM
spanone (116,943 posts)