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This is by far the most egregious lie this "man" has ever said! He owes my state an apology! (Original Post) Heartstrings Apr 2019 OP
I'm so embarrassed by Mr Lake's hometown. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #1
Scary sad is right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #2
Less scary D_Master81 Apr 2019 #36
He owes women and hospital folks an apology malaise Apr 2019 #3
He owes humanity an apology, followed by an immediate resignation. George II Apr 2019 #9
So do his parents malaise Apr 2019 #15
I always wondered the effect Fred.. busterbrown Apr 2019 #23
Both parents I think malaise Apr 2019 #34
I hadn't really thought of that duhneece Apr 2019 #37
My mom told me mercuryblues Apr 2019 #42
Oh that's not always the truth. tymorial Apr 2019 #53
That is also true - abused children often become malaise Apr 2019 #57
It's the absolute truth malaise Apr 2019 #56
I wish somebody would have told me that when I was a young woman. llmart Apr 2019 #51
That was one of the best pieces of advice my mom gave all her children malaise Apr 2019 #55
I don't know if my mother would have given me any advice on marriage. llmart Apr 2019 #58
This needs major news attention nicehuman16 Apr 2019 #11
Where are the American Medical Association malaise Apr 2019 #43
Of course Trump's bullshit claim fits the narrative PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #4
I had what we called toxemia, pretty bad, the first time. Had to think about the second time. Shrike47 Apr 2019 #12
I think it takes a hell of a lot of Courage... busterbrown Apr 2019 #24
I had gestational diabetes. Mariana Apr 2019 #25
I had a 36 hour labor with my first son. Ohiogal Apr 2019 #27
Yes. And any woman who has a second child, PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #30
You've got to be kidding me. Ohiogal Apr 2019 #41
Yeah, he probably did think it was beneath him. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #44
So did one of my sisters and that baby was fine but what would have been malaise Apr 2019 #35
This is sick. He is sick. His fans are sick. mountain grammy Apr 2019 #5
What a lying piece of shit happybird Apr 2019 #6
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #14
In the far right's eyes, abortion equals infanticide, Qutzupalotl Apr 2019 #7
He's been particularly nutty the past week, happybird Apr 2019 #8
how can you possibly say that when orleans Apr 2019 #32
Senator Cassidy (a doctor) of Louisiana is also pushing this. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #10
It's about NY law that says newborns who can't survive can be allowed to die bobbieinok Apr 2019 #46
I think it's about partial birth abortion. If that's still allowed. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #47
Maybe someone should sue him in court bluecollar2 Apr 2019 #13
Donald J. Trump yuiyoshida Apr 2019 #16
He insulted any mother who has lost a newborn NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #17
Yes. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #31
A window on a horrific, monstrous mind The Blue Flower Apr 2019 #18
So mothers and doctors murder healthy new born ... Botany Apr 2019 #21
I hope Cohen spills the beans on all the abortions the creep has paid for. hedda_foil Apr 2019 #29
For a sitting president to say such a thing... Blue Owl Apr 2019 #19
Every day that he doesn't suffer a massive, debilitating stroke is a day wasted Orrex Apr 2019 #20
Trump is a Twisted and Very Sick Man dlk Apr 2019 #22
Hating Trump, I've heard, can be very corrosive for the soul...so I've decided to FailureToCommunicate Apr 2019 #26
Note the words, "They wrap the baby beautifully." Collimator Apr 2019 #28
I have an issue with the apology thing notinkansas Apr 2019 #33
The sick, twisted, pornographically gory fantasies these people have about women ehrnst Apr 2019 #38
I'm trying to write something that adequately expresses my outrage. democrank Apr 2019 #39
It is not just a lie, it is immoral and evil to state something like this. rkleinberger Apr 2019 #40
He owes the nation an apology... WillParkinson Apr 2019 #45
He's subhuman spanone Apr 2019 #48
K&R ck4829 Apr 2019 #49
Trump's mother should've had an abortion. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2019 #50
Someone is going to get killed over this. Initech Apr 2019 #52
Bad man. Lifelong Protester Apr 2019 #54

malaise

(268,686 posts)
3. He owes women and hospital folks an apology
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:25 PM
Apr 2019

This should be the #1 item on the news - is is offensive beyond belief and it is a fucking lie.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
23. I always wondered the effect Fred..
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:02 PM
Apr 2019

had on him.. I betcha he's a huge part of the Puzzle... Why is Trump so idiotic to to the point of extreme mental illness?


malaise

(268,686 posts)
34. Both parents I think
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:19 AM
Apr 2019

the women hatred must have links to his mother.
My mother always told us not to date men who had a bad relationship with their mother or sisters.

duhneece

(4,110 posts)
37. I hadn't really thought of that
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:00 AM
Apr 2019

Whether his looking down on women is directly from his dad looking down on trump’s mom or his mother was a monster...whichever.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
53. Oh that's not always the truth.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:42 PM
Apr 2019

If a boy was repeatedly abused by his mother, he may exhibit extreme devotion to her while simultaneously harboring deep resentment and misogyny towards other women in general. The later man's abusive actions towards women outside of his immediate family act as a surrogate for his abuser.

Observe how men treat women in service positions or female coworkers. My college roommate was emotionally and psychologically abused by his mother. He was always devoted to her but man he was nasty and awful to his girlfriends. I couldn't stand the guy but I saw what she said to him once when she didn't know I was in the other room. She said he was a worthless loser who was just like his father. It was heartbreaking

malaise

(268,686 posts)
57. That is also true - abused children often become
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:27 PM
Apr 2019

abusers. Young men also learn how to treat or not treat women from their fathers.
On the other hand devotion is often more about duty than love.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
51. I wish somebody would have told me that when I was a young woman.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:30 PM
Apr 2019

I can attest to what your mother said. I married a man who hated his mother and on a much smaller level, he has a lot of the characteristics of trump. Now I tell young women that - do not marry a man who hates his mother.

malaise

(268,686 posts)
55. That was one of the best pieces of advice my mom gave all her children
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 07:22 PM
Apr 2019

Can't imagine living with a mother hater with the Con's characteristics. The good news is you escaped.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
58. I don't know if my mother would have given me any advice on marriage.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 08:45 PM
Apr 2019

I often wonder if she would have. She and my father had a pretty awful marriage. She died when I was a teenager.

The worst traits weren't as evident when he was a young man, but as he aged the things that were wrong with him were exacerbated by getting older. I was married a very long time. But hey, it's never too late to learn I guess. I have a peaceful and content life now.

nicehuman16

(7 posts)
11. This needs major news attention
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:16 PM
Apr 2019

You are right. This needs to be debunked on prime time network news and called out for the despicable lie that it is.

malaise

(268,686 posts)
43. Where are the American Medical Association
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 02:33 PM
Apr 2019

The Association of Gynecologists, hospitals in General, Planned Parenthood and the Mothers of America.

Of all his lies and disgusting comments, this one is up there among the most vile.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
4. Of course Trump's bullshit claim fits the narrative
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:38 PM
Apr 2019

that women just casually have abortions because the mood strikes them. Sort of like buying a pair of earrings, an impulse item that is meaningless.

One of the ways you can tell that men have never been pregnant is that they buy into this sort of crap. So do some women, who should absolutely know better.

When I was pregnant with my first I had pretty severe morning sickness, enough that I lost weight in the first trimester. I remember thinking, if I have a miscarriage I don't know if I'd be willing to get pregnant again. It was that bad. But I didn't have a miscarriage, went on to have a healthy baby, some four years later had another baby. The morning sickness the second time wasn't as bad, lucky me.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
12. I had what we called toxemia, pretty bad, the first time. Had to think about the second time.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:19 PM
Apr 2019

My health got so bad after the second kid, I had to have a hysterectomy in my 20’s. I wish men who oppose abortion could be pregnant for a few years. A-holes.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
24. I think it takes a hell of a lot of Courage...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:04 PM
Apr 2019

to go through the physical part of it all.. Not to mention the mental... My God!

Husbands sure get the easy part of it in comparison..

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
25. I had gestational diabetes.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:14 PM
Apr 2019

My baby and I came out of it fine, but I wasn't willing to go through it again.

Ohiogal

(31,907 posts)
27. I had a 36 hour labor with my first son.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:45 PM
Apr 2019

I’d like to see any man go through that.

Afterwards I felt like I’d been run over by a Mack truck.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
30. Yes. And any woman who has a second child,
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:31 AM
Apr 2019

even if both pregnancies and birth experiences were the easiest possible, she still gets up the next day and takes care of the brand new baby AND the older child. There is not a man on the planet who could manage that.

Many years ago, when I was a ticket agent at National Airport in Washington DC, our evening flight to somewhere (don't recall the city and it doesn't matter) cancelled, and I was rebooking passengers for the morning flight. One of my passengers was an army officer (can't recall his rank, it probably doesn't matter, but I'm guessing he was a colonel) was based at Ft. Belvoir, which is a bit south of the airport, just beyond Mt. Vernon. The important thing is that the public bus ran there. I rebooked him and told him to take the bus back home and we'd see him in the morning. He refused. Said the bus wasn't safe. Excuse me? I took the public bus every single day between my apartment in Alexandria, VA, to the airport. I worked an afternoon shift so I was going home late at night, 10:30pm, usually later. Sometimes at 1 or 2 am if flights were really delayed.

This is someone I'm supposed to expect will protect me if our nation is invaded or in some sort of national emergency? Really? When this happened I was maybe 25 years old. A woman. A small woman. Who took public transportation at all hours of the day and night. And this man, twice my age, significantly bigger than me, was afraid to take the bus. What is wrong with this picture.

I wound up giving him a taxi voucher. The asshole.

Oh, and have you ever noticed that it's men, not women, who are afraid of shots and needles?

Ohiogal

(31,907 posts)
41. You've got to be kidding me.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 02:10 PM
Apr 2019

I somehow wonder if he just refused to take the bus because he felt that bus travel was beneath him, so he came up with that lame excuse. Although .... you never know. ..... I've always felt that if you went through the whole pregnancy and delivery thing, you could handle anything .... your body is violated, poked, prodded, exposed, felt up, monitored, etc. etc. until you feel as though it's not even your own anymore. When I had that 36-hour labor, every intern in the whole hospital probably stuck his or her fingers up my you know where to check my dilation. Your last molecule of modesty just gets pitched right out the door. I wondered if they were going to let the janitor walking past my room with a bucket and a mop the opportunity to check my dilation.

For this reason, it infuriates me that men ... who know nothing, NOTHING, about what it's like to go through pregnancy and birth, to even THINK they have the right to make laws forcing us to do so! Maybe other women have had better experiences than I had, but it sure wasn't like it is in the movies. Five minute labor, husband at the wife's side holding her hand, one big push, boom, here's the baby, tears of joy. Uh uh. And, your body just isn't the same once you've done it. It just isn't. No woman should be forced to go through with pregnancy and birth, for whatever reason. I firmly believe that. And for Trump to insinuate that women just decide on a whim to kill a live baby like they would decide to step on a spider, is patently insulting and ridiculous. I surely hope some medical groups or hospital groups push way back loud and long on this horrid man's dangerous lies.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
44. Yeah, he probably did think it was beneath him.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 03:00 PM
Apr 2019

But the bullshit excuse that he didn't think he'd be safe on the bus outraged me.

malaise

(268,686 posts)
35. So did one of my sisters and that baby was fine but what would have been
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:21 AM
Apr 2019

her third child and only daughter never made it.

happybird

(4,588 posts)
6. What a lying piece of shit
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:42 PM
Apr 2019


This makes me so frickin' angry.

He's not really even "pro-life," or he wasn't till he decided to run as an R. How convenient. He's just pandering to his nutjob evangelical and rabidly misogynist base, and that makes it even worse (if it can possibly be worse or more offensive).

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. +1000
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:21 PM
Apr 2019

I am so angry I could spit nails right now. We all know he is a shameless liar, but this is beyond the pale. How fucking dare he!

Qutzupalotl

(14,286 posts)
7. In the far right's eyes, abortion equals infanticide,
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 08:42 PM
Apr 2019

so the Trump followers probably wouldn’t care about the difference.

And Trump doesn’t care that it outrages both sides. Anything to distract from talk of impeachment.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. Senator Cassidy (a doctor) of Louisiana is also pushing this.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019

It seems to be a coordinated attack on abortion, since they weren't getting traction using truth.

Present abortion as killing live newborns.
The economy is great (say whatever you have to) / tax cuts
The wall/immigrants

So far, that's what I pick up as their "strategery."

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
46. It's about NY law that says newborns who can't survive can be allowed to die
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:25 PM
Apr 2019

And proposed VA law.

Newborns who can't survive. No horrifically painful attempts to 'save' them.

There is a massive GOTV for 2020 to convince evil Democrats, ie, 'Satanic baby-killers' are murdering babies.

Guests and hosts on recent YouTube videos of the JimBakker show are pushing this hard, holding newborns ad saying 'see, this is what they will kill if we don't vote'!

An extremely emotional push!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. I think it's about partial birth abortion. If that's still allowed.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 05:39 PM
Apr 2019

It was controversial. It is disturbing to read about it, although there are medical reasons for it.

But I'm not sure what they're referring to.

bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
13. Maybe someone should sue him in court
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:20 PM
Apr 2019

For defamation or some other legal pretext...

Hold that son of a bitch accountable for his statements.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
17. He insulted any mother who has lost a newborn
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:29 PM
Apr 2019

and suffered unspeakable pain. He tells her it's her fault, and her doctor's. You can't get lower than that. He's a monster.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
31. Yes.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:32 AM
Apr 2019

I cannot imagine that pain. I've known some women who have been through that. As you say, it's unspeakable pain.

The Blue Flower

(5,433 posts)
18. A window on a horrific, monstrous mind
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:31 PM
Apr 2019

These words strung together to create such a monstrous, murderous, psychopathic thought, should convince the world that he should be locked up and never allowed in civil society.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
21. So mothers and doctors murder healthy new born ...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:54 PM
Apr 2019

... full term babies? Beyond sick and twisted.

Btw I wonder how many abortions Donny has paid for?

This is all gaslighting in order to distract from the facts of Trump/Russia/rigged election.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
29. I hope Cohen spills the beans on all the abortions the creep has paid for.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:07 AM
Apr 2019

With cancelled checks and non disclosure agreements to show for it.

Blue Owl

(50,256 posts)
19. For a sitting president to say such a thing...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:34 PM
Apr 2019

Is so beyond preposterous.

Where is the outrage that the so-called leader of our country would tell such a bald-faced lie???

dlk

(11,512 posts)
22. Trump is a Twisted and Very Sick Man
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 09:59 PM
Apr 2019

Just when it appears he can’t say or do anything more vile...

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
26. Hating Trump, I've heard, can be very corrosive for the soul...so I've decided to
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 10:19 PM
Apr 2019

spread my hatred around to his entire legion of enablers in Congress, many Republicans, and his crazed cult of supporters and apologists across this entire country.

There, that helps.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
28. Note the words, "They wrap the baby beautifully."
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 11:18 PM
Apr 2019

Whatshisface is using that phrase to indicate a pretty picture of sentimentality. Except that he also described a piece of chocolate cake as beautiful.

He was probably more sincere about the cake.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
33. I have an issue with the apology thing
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:44 AM
Apr 2019

There is absolutely!! nothing that 'man' could say to atone for such a statement.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. The sick, twisted, pornographically gory fantasies these people have about women
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:02 AM
Apr 2019

have always scared me about them.

democrank

(11,085 posts)
39. I'm trying to write something that adequately expresses my outrage.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:07 AM
Apr 2019

I can’t find the words, except that Donald Trump is a dangerous, dangerous, dangerous man.

rkleinberger

(155 posts)
40. It is not just a lie, it is immoral and evil to state something like this.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:00 PM
Apr 2019

I hope the medical profession responds to this. And the yahoos are cheering him on. What sickos!

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
50. Trump's mother should've had an abortion. . .
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

. . .instead, we are stuck with this fat, foul-mouthed POS and subhumanity.

Initech

(100,034 posts)
52. Someone is going to get killed over this.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 06:32 PM
Apr 2019

Not like Donny and his dangerous rhetoric have taken lives before.

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