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Raven

(13,884 posts)
Wed May 1, 2019, 07:38 AM May 2019

Why Barr did what he did:

1) He was instructed to do it;

2) He was confident that he would have "cover" for his lies;

3) He knows that there are no standards of behavior anymore and that the American people are so beaten down that there will be no consequences.

He betrayed a close friend and violated the oath he took when he became a lawyer and a public servant. He spit on the legacies of Elliot Richardson and Archibald Cox.

He didn't do all of this in the heat of the moment. He planned for it. He telegraphed it in his 19 page "job application."

He did all of this for Donald Trump and it will haunt him for the rest of his life and be the headline on his obituary notice.

Sad, very, very, very sad.

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Why Barr did what he did: (Original Post) Raven May 2019 OP
They probably have Kompromat on him too nt Jarqui May 2019 #1
This should always be the first comment when dealing with these traitors N/T rufus dog May 2019 #34
My guess is beastiality Horse with no Name May 2019 #49
Kind of reminds me of a plot that John Grisham would have developed. no_hypocrisy May 2019 #2
Or Richard Condon (The Manchurian Candidate) erronis May 2019 #17
He was instructed to do it, watoos May 2019 #3
Yep. And his only regret will be Ilsa May 2019 #8
"But I think his FedSoc ideals are what drives him to violate his professional and legal oaths" Texin May 2019 #36
You are likely dead-right. nt Ilsa May 2019 #40
These people that think latching on to Donnie's coattails will get them somewhere... llmart May 2019 #4
Its very obvious now duforsure May 2019 #5
"... the American people will not allow this to go on, " pangaia May 2019 #32
I'm afraid you're right. So long as folks have "Survivor" and the Kardashians, who cares? Texin May 2019 #38
And even CNN and , NBC Nightly News, and, and.... pangaia May 2019 #41
Your number 3 is the saddest truth. FailureToCommunicate May 2019 #6
That's what happens when you go over to the dark side and work for Vader pdsimdars May 2019 #7
Vader redeemed himself. BlueTsunami2018 May 2019 #51
Yes. We need ultimately to hold these people accountable. PatrickforO May 2019 #56
He did it because scorpion and frog Cosmocat May 2019 #9
I think Donny made an implicit threat NewJeffCT May 2019 #10
I suspect it is much, much worse than that. pangaia May 2019 #35
"it will haunt him for the rest of his life and be the headline on his obituary notice. " Perseus May 2019 #11
#1 reason - he's involved with Russia too and has been promised much for his fealty. lark May 2019 #12
I would not be surprised, watoos May 2019 #22
That's already happened. lark May 2019 #23
This. Chin music May 2019 #31
and by repeating the 'deep state' and 'spy' bullshit he apparently is another dottohead certainot May 2019 #39
I think that Trumps solution to everything is to just lie. world wide wally May 2019 #13
Normalize the ab-normal,... magicarpet May 2019 #14
Trump tells all of his people to "just lie if anybody asks" world wide wally May 2019 #15
He helped save the Repug party after Iran Conta with NoMoreRepugs May 2019 #16
Barr applied to do it, was interviewed to do it, nominated and confirmed to do it. Freethinker65 May 2019 #18
These criminals will have consequences duforsure May 2019 #37
He is impervious to criticism and loves the headlines. We know that from his past behavior. Pepsidog May 2019 #19
He must be... He can't be so in denial that he doesn't recognize how others see him. hlthe2b May 2019 #26
I want him impeached. I want the DC bar and any others he belongs to to pull his law license. hlthe2b May 2019 #20
I just want more than 2 Democrats to call for him to resign. watoos May 2019 #24
Oh, no... You must UP your demands...LOL hlthe2b May 2019 #25
Lying and obstructing congress in your official legal capacity should do the trick. Chin music May 2019 #33
The entire GOP will honor him for it zaj May 2019 #21
He is a hero to everyone Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #27
Barr* was and is a GOP* fixer... Raster May 2019 #28
Softening the blow. Tommy_Carcetti May 2019 #29
"He knows that there are no standards of behavior anymore and that the American people pangaia May 2019 #30
No, the real reason that he did it was because vlyons May 2019 #42
The are seriously kissing barrs butt in the hearing this morning nt yaesu May 2019 #43
After lsewpershad May 2019 #44
I saw it suggested that the GOP wants an impeachment trial bloom May 2019 #45
"He was instructed to do it;" Texin May 2019 #46
I'll never get proud patriot May 2019 #47
They're very excited by the cover Trump supplies srobertss May 2019 #48
To be fair, H2O Man May 2019 #50
I'm not beaten down in the least. Fully prepared to kick some fascist ass. ZZenith May 2019 #52
There need to be consequences. LiberalFighter May 2019 #53
Damn right there need to be consequences! calimary May 2019 #57
Do sociopaths "feel" anything? Nope. BigmanPigman May 2019 #54
IMO not very, very, very sad. I think he unfurled his own hangman's noose. usaf-vet May 2019 #55

erronis

(15,216 posts)
17. Or Richard Condon (The Manchurian Candidate)
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:12 AM
May 2019

But now I can think of a lot of mystery, poli-sci, horror, and sci-fi authors probably couldn't have concocted such a wild tale. And we get to live it!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. He was instructed to do it,
Wed May 1, 2019, 07:58 AM
May 2019

Let's not forget that Barr applied for the job. I agree he was instructed to do it, by the Federalist Society. Barr went in with the game plan to bring down the Mueller investigation.

He didn't do it for Trump per se, he did it for the Federalist Society, for the greedy bastards who control our country.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
8. Yep. And his only regret will be
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:15 AM
May 2019

if he doesn't get away with it. Hubby thinks he was paid off by russian oligarchs. Others think he was blackmailed. But I think his FedSoc ideals are what drives him to violate his professional and legal oaths to serve a traitor in the WH. His name will be garbage after a lifetime of trying to build a professional legacy.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
36. "But I think his FedSoc ideals are what drives him to violate his professional and legal oaths"
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:44 AM
May 2019

This. His extreme ideology *trumped* his integrity. Now, that doesn't mean someone doesn't have the blackmailable goods on him - or kompromat, as the case may be - as well. Frankly, I believe that he's part of the right wing cabal that includes McConnell.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
4. These people that think latching on to Donnie's coattails will get them somewhere...
Wed May 1, 2019, 07:59 AM
May 2019

have to be pretty darned delusional or ignorant. I hope Barr rots in jail.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
5. Its very obvious now
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:00 AM
May 2019

He's compromised, conspired to : obstruct, lie, and to cover up for trump and for putin. His criminal acts should get him disbarred, and fully prosecuted for all he's done and involved in, and he should be scared because the American people will not allow this to go on, and demand they have consequences after they all are fully exposed, which they will be. Barr is in very , very deep trouble now.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. "... the American people will not allow this to go on, "
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:40 AM
May 2019

Wanna bet?

Just because we here try to see what is happening to our country, the American 'people' don;t know shit.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
41. And even CNN and , NBC Nightly News, and, and....
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:49 AM
May 2019


I live in a land of ignorant road kill...


Fortunately, I have nothing to do with any of them...


PatrickforO

(14,566 posts)
56. Yes. We need ultimately to hold these people accountable.
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:45 AM
May 2019

Many have committed crimes against humanity, and all have committed crimes against this country.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
9. He did it because scorpion and frog
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:23 AM
May 2019

its his nature.

Despite the painfully desperate media chattering classes babbling about him being an "institutionalist" he has A L W A Y S been a partisan scumbag who did the dirt for republican POTUSs.

He is, and always has been a POS.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. I think Donny made an implicit threat
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:31 AM
May 2019

"Your son and daughter have nice comfortable jobs in my white house and in Treasury, would be a shame if their careers were derailed by a sudden firing."

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
11. "it will haunt him for the rest of his life and be the headline on his obituary notice. "
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:33 AM
May 2019

He earned it, he worked hard at it, he deserves it. I hope that it is not only a headline on his obituary, I hope it is a headline whenever anyone talks about him, that when he reads about himself the words "puppet" and "treason" ring high in his head.

lark

(23,083 posts)
12. #1 reason - he's involved with Russia too and has been promised much for his fealty.
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:42 AM
May 2019

It's all about feathering his own nest and increasing the power of the party over America and basically changing America so there is never any accountability for the rich and laws don't apply to them - none.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
22. I would not be surprised,
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:18 AM
May 2019

if it turns out that the Republican party and Russia have formed a bond. Russia keeps Republicans in power and Republicans do Putin's bidding.

lark

(23,083 posts)
23. That's already happened.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:19 AM
May 2019

Russia sent the NRA $32 million which all ended up in RNC and repug legislators pockets.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
39. and by repeating the 'deep state' and 'spy' bullshit he apparently is another dottohead
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:47 AM
May 2019

like trump and miller and mulvaney and probably half the trump troup

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
13. I think that Trumps solution to everything is to just lie.
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:45 AM
May 2019

That is why he leaves a trail of disgraced sycophants in his wake.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
14. Normalize the ab-normal,...
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:54 AM
May 2019

* Unethical
* Immoral
* Corruption
* Treason

Now all okay !

Standard fare in Washington Dc post donnie trDump.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
15. Trump tells all of his people to "just lie if anybody asks"
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:06 AM
May 2019

Hence, the Trump hi way is littered with broken bodies.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
16. He helped save the Repug party after Iran Conta with
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:09 AM
May 2019

Poppy Bush and is trying to do it again. In the history written by Repug loyalists he will be a patriot and defender of freedom.

They've managed to create a bizzaroworld where Reagan almost became a saint and is memorialized as this incredible leader versus the reality of reading off prepared index cards in meetings so he would have something to say other than "want a jellybean?"

Freethinker65

(10,008 posts)
18. Barr applied to do it, was interviewed to do it, nominated and confirmed to do it.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:13 AM
May 2019

And Barr did it.

Barr expected to take a bit of heat and criticism, and then it would all be forgotten as the country moved on. That still might happen...it depends on what next crisis the Trump WH manufactures.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
37. These criminals will have consequences
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:45 AM
May 2019

Either way it works out the American people will vote them out of office to hold them all accountable,and will have severe legal issues they will have to answer for. Barr will regret his actions he chose to do for trump and maybe putin. They will be exposed , and the truth will not be stopped from exposing all of them.

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
26. He must be... He can't be so in denial that he doesn't recognize how others see him.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:22 AM
May 2019

Sadly, I rather like bullfrogs...

hlthe2b

(102,192 posts)
20. I want him impeached. I want the DC bar and any others he belongs to to pull his law license.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:17 AM
May 2019

Most of all, I want the despicable excuse for a US Attorney General to be charged with perjury, his reputation forever destroyed and for him to be an example throughout history of the consequences for such corruption.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
33. Lying and obstructing congress in your official legal capacity should do the trick.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:40 AM
May 2019

On that law license anyway.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
28. Barr* was and is a GOP* fixer...
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:26 AM
May 2019

...and frankly I am amazed that anyone would expect different of Barr*.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,161 posts)
29. Softening the blow.
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:27 AM
May 2019

An immediate release of even the redacted Mueller report would have been devastating for Trump.

So he gave Trump a few weeks to take a fake victory lap and build up a “No collusion! No obstruction!” narrative to rally the base before the beans got spilled.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. "He knows that there are no standards of behavior anymore and that the American people
Wed May 1, 2019, 09:36 AM
May 2019

are so beaten down."

Thank you Senor Putin...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
42. No, the real reason that he did it was because
Wed May 1, 2019, 10:09 AM
May 2019

he, like all those, who allow themselves to gravitate into Trump's orbit are morally bankrupt and downright degenerate. Honor and truth are not their highest values. We already know the apologist role that Barr played in defending selling arms to Iran under Reagan, and defending water-boarding under GWBush. We already know that he angled for the AG job under Trump. What else do we need to know. Anyone, who would work for Trump is either an idiotic fool or a degenerate criminal.

Yes it is very sad.

bloom

(11,635 posts)
45. I saw it suggested that the GOP wants an impeachment trial
Wed May 1, 2019, 11:46 AM
May 2019

thinking that would rouse their base.

If that is what is going on - I hope they are wrong and enough people see how full of shit they all are.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
46. "He was instructed to do it;"
Wed May 1, 2019, 12:56 PM
May 2019

No. He VOLUNTEERED to do it. His 19-page job application, together with his attachments re the Iran-Contra business, were his entrée into the tRump Administration.

He got away with it before, and he is fully certain he won't face any consequences now. This business of people saying "he's lost his integrity" have got everything upside down. Barr had no integrity.

proud patriot

(100,705 posts)
47. I'll never get
Wed May 1, 2019, 04:00 PM
May 2019

how people can sell their soul/reputation etc
for the love of power or some cult leader .

Yes it is very sad .

srobertss

(261 posts)
48. They're very excited by the cover Trump supplies
Wed May 1, 2019, 04:21 PM
May 2019

They want to enact their hellish agenda hurting the majority of the country. That’s hard to do in a democracy. Unless you have a malignant character who seems to be immune from accountability and has mesmerized a significant portion of the population. Barr was probably aware that here was a perfect opportunity and got excited enough to leave retirement and help with the spin to keep out the light of day. It’s a gamble and we’re all waiting to see if he wins his bet.

H2O Man

(73,524 posts)
50. To be fair,
Wed May 1, 2019, 06:12 PM
May 2019

Barr has been a creep his entire life. He sought the job of AG because he is an opportunist, who saw the chance to advance his personal belief in an all-powerful presidency. After his time in the CIA, he showed his lack of decency as Bush the Elder's AG. And, while I'm not sure if you were saying Barr and Mr. Mueller were "close friends," that is not accurate.

None of this will haunt him. He does not have a conscience in the traditional sense. He will sleep well.

Recommended.

ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
52. I'm not beaten down in the least. Fully prepared to kick some fascist ass.
Wed May 1, 2019, 06:36 PM
May 2019

And I resent completely all the attempts here to suggest our situation is hopeless.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
54. Do sociopaths "feel" anything? Nope.
Wed May 1, 2019, 08:47 PM
May 2019

We wish they did since we do. We feel the hurt, the anger the injustices but those who do not have feelings do not because they can not nor do they want to. He will sleep very well tonight, just like the rest of them. This is how they are, it is their true self, their nature. It would make us feel better if they felt guilt or remorse for their deeds at some time in their lives but they do not.

https://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

*Read this to better understand what people like Barr, tRump and the rest are really like.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
55. IMO not very, very, very sad. I think he unfurled his own hangman's noose.
Thu May 2, 2019, 12:39 AM
May 2019

Stupid, stupid, stupid! Next he will write his own historical epitaph.

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