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Sat May 4, 2019, 12:33 PM

Impeach Now: It's Time for Democrats to Fight or Surrender

History will Judge them

(Attempts to work with Trump on infrastructure are) a symptom of the desperate need by the Democratic leadership (and too many of its elected officials and rank-and-file members) to always appear as "reasonable" and as being "the adults in the room." This weakness has allowed an amoral conservative movement to drag the Democrats farther and farther to the right over the last few decades. The Republican Party's political hostage-taking and authoritarianism is almost always never punished. In practice this means that Democrats encourage and reward such bad behavior, like a parent who gives a treat to a bratty child to stop a temper tantrum. President Donald Trump, the adult baby tyrant-in-waiting, is the result.

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Yes, Donald Trump is an almost unique threat to American democracy, who will almost certainly use impeachment to fuel his conspiracy theories and to cement even more power over his political cult members. But impeachment would also show the American people and the world that Trump will be actively opposed and resisted by any and all means available. The merits of the latter outweigh the concerns about the former..

https://www.salon.com/2019/05/04/impeach-now-its-time-for-democrats-to-fight-or-surrender-history-will-judge-them/

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Reply Impeach Now: It's Time for Democrats to Fight or Surrender (Original post)
prodigitalson May 2019 OP
redstateblues May 2019 #1
empedocles May 2019 #2
prodigitalson May 2019 #3
empedocles May 2019 #4
prodigitalson May 2019 #5
empedocles May 2019 #7
sinkingfeeling May 2019 #6
barbtries May 2019 #8

Response to prodigitalson (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2019, 12:40 PM

1. Trump et al, including all Republicans, Would stonewall any impeachment attempt

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #1)

Sat May 4, 2019, 12:44 PM

2. Such possibilities, and their remedies, should be considered . . . before we leap!

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Response to empedocles (Reply #2)

Sat May 4, 2019, 12:50 PM

3. They will use and abuse every power they have regardless of what we do

If Congress doesn't excercise it's power it gives it up permanently. And we will have a unitary executive who will not even leave office if he loses the election. Who would make him? Forget waiting for the public to lead. Be leaders and lead the public.

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Response to prodigitalson (Reply #3)

Sat May 4, 2019, 12:55 PM

4. The Speaker and the Senate Minority Leader are aware of those kind of efforts.

We Dems have a lot of resources. We must calmly use our intellects, knowledge and experience - and move prudently.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #4)

Sat May 4, 2019, 12:59 PM

5. Trump has already ordered Barr to start working up criminal cases on his opponents.

Maybe they can issue some more strongly worded letters from their jail cells

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Response to prodigitalson (Reply #5)

Sat May 4, 2019, 01:06 PM

7. May be time, with evidence, to impeach barr.

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Response to prodigitalson (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2019, 01:00 PM

6. ITTMF NOW!

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Response to prodigitalson (Original post)

Sat May 4, 2019, 01:25 PM

8. when do we get to the point

when the Democrats' failure to impeach indicates that they don't respect the constitution any more than republicans? this is the remedy provided by the law. we need to follow the law.

we cannot see into the future. but we have a road map to doing the right thing right now.

I'm all for all the hearings possible, but look at how even these are being obstructed by this administration. trump has been committing impeachable offenses since the day he lied his way through the oath of office.

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