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Thu May 16, 2019, 02:49 PM

I think these bans are about more than abortion.


Republicans saw women voters (largely the pro-life ones) deliver victories to Democrats in the 2018 elections, threatening GOP control of government.

Now, Republican legislators are trying to make abortion & even miscarriage a felony.

Why? Sure, there's the usual "pro-life" base BS, but I think a lot of folks are missing something important:

FELONS CAN'T VOTE


These bans are a way they can take the right to vote away (at least temporarily in most states) from pro-choice women who have an abortion. It's safe to say this will suppress Democratic votes more than Republican votes.

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Reply I think these bans are about more than abortion. (Original post)
CaptainTruth May 2019 OP
TeamPooka May 2019 #1
mr_lebowski May 2019 #3
meow2u3 May 2019 #2
blueinredohio May 2019 #4
stopbush May 2019 #11
maxsolomon May 2019 #5
Freddie May 2019 #6
maxsolomon May 2019 #7
katmondoo May 2019 #9
maxsolomon May 2019 #14
DrToast May 2019 #15
Brawndo May 2019 #8
essaynnc May 2019 #10
Skittles May 2019 #12
Initech May 2019 #13
maxsolomon May 2019 #16
pansypoo53219 May 2019 #17
DrToast May 2019 #18
Patterson May 2019 #19

Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:50 PM

1. This whole movement is about punishing women for having sex.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #1)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:53 PM

3. * But Not With Them

Important subtext, IMHO ...

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:51 PM

2. ReTHUGS are looking to disenfranchise women because of their lust for power

Those extreme antiabortion laws are designed to provide an end run around the 19th Amendment. The only ones who should be punished are those arrogant white males pushing their extremist views on a moderate majority.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 02:58 PM

4. I think it's about religion, if they can get Roe v. Wade overturned

next it will be religion back in schools. They want us to be forced into their religion or what they pass for religion.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #4)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:42 PM

11. Bingo. And to be specific, it's not about any religion outside of Christianity.

The Christians are driving this. no one else.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:06 PM

5. It is not 8-dimensional chess.

It's not about reducing the number of women who vote at some hypothetical future date.

Anti-choice people think Abortion (and birth control that stops implantation) is literally murder. It is an article of faith for them. They are not Machiavellian schemers like Chris Kobach.

Stop making it more complicated than it is.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:13 PM

6. They think potential life has more value than actual life

That zygote might be male, y’know.

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Response to Freddie (Reply #6)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:16 PM

7. I won't argue that point.

They wouldn't say that out loud, however.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:31 PM

9. That is how they raise money by calling abortion murder, it opens the right wingers pocketbook

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #9)

Thu May 16, 2019, 04:37 PM

14. You're saying Anti-Choice groups are only opposing Abortion to raise money?

And they actually don't consider Abortion to be murder, it's just a grift? Again, you're overcomplicating this.

You may want to consider that Anti-Choice voters are sincere in their misguided, subjective beliefs. They are the same voters who sincerely believe Hillary should be in jail for Benghazi, that MS-13 is going to rape their granddaughters, and that Obama was going to take their guns.

They're delusional, but they actually do believe it. They've reduced this to a binary choice: a zygote is physically and morally equivalent to a newborn, and abortion is deliberately killing that life. There is no gray area.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Thu May 16, 2019, 04:40 PM

15. +1

Jeez....they’re passing Anti abortion laws because that’s what they believe. Don’t make it more complex than needed.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:18 PM

8. It's a mandatory eugenics program designed to force higher Caucasian birth rates

That's the end goal, controlling women and possible disenfranchisement are just the icing on the cake to them.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:39 PM

10. Squirrel!

Or it could be a new shiny object to take our interests away from the Mueller investigation and impeachment. Just a thought! Not that I don't think it's an important issue, but there are more important issues at this point in our country.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:44 PM

12. it has never been about abortion

it has always been about controlling women

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 03:53 PM

13. The entire movement the last 3 years has been about one thing: white Christian male dominance.

That's it. That's what all the horrid policies the Trump administration is gearing toward. The rise in white supremacism. The hate toward any diverse opinions and lifestyles. The anti-abortion extremism. It's all about white males exerting dominance. They want to take this country back - to the 1700s. They want to rule, and they want to rule with an iron fist, because that's exactly what JAYSUS would have wanted.

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Response to Initech (Reply #13)

Thu May 16, 2019, 04:41 PM

16. Its the culmination of a 40 year campaign, not 3 years.

Republics have essentially eliminated Abortion Services in the states they control already, through a combination of legislation, terrorism, and intimidation.

Sure, patriarchy plays an essential role in their worldviews, but this is simply the best chance they've had to overturn Roe v Wade. So they're striking while the iron is hot.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 04:50 PM

17. taking away abortion should increase women's votes against the GOP.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Original post)

Thu May 16, 2019, 04:58 PM

19. I don't think this will make enough felons for it to be a main reason.

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