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Fri May 17, 2019, 07:09 AM

Explain this abortion position to me.

In all of these new “heartbeat” bills, they only state a punishment for the Doctor.
In Alabama’s case, 99 years for the Doctor but nothing for the mother.

How can this be true if they consider any abortion murder?

If a husband hires a hit man to kill his wife, both the hit man and the husband are charged with murder. Using the anti choice logic, a woman hiring a doctor to kill a fetus should be the same scenario.
But, they know that punishing the mother is not popular with the general public.
So, they just ignore this non equivalency.
Hypocrisy as usual from this crowd.

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Reply Explain this abortion position to me. (Original post)
Funtatlaguy May 2019 OP
RandiFan1290 May 2019 #1
Funtatlaguy May 2019 #2
StarfishSaver May 2019 #3
Arkansas Granny May 2019 #7
Freddie May 2019 #4
hlthe2b May 2019 #5
Funtatlaguy May 2019 #6
WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #8
Funtatlaguy May 2019 #12
unblock May 2019 #9
MineralMan May 2019 #10
Ilsa May 2019 #11
Funtatlaguy May 2019 #13

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:10 AM

1. anti-choice nt

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #1)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:12 AM

2. Changed it. Any comment on their logic?

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:14 AM

3. This is their version of being "pro-woman"

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #3)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:57 AM

7. This!

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:24 AM

4. What will really happen

All these anti-choice laws contain an exception for the life of the mother. As any physician can tell you, life or death situation are often gray and can happen very fast. Too fast to go before panels and other bullshit. So the doctor will err on the side of caution - staying out of prison - and women will die. So very pro-life.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:24 AM

5. It is a mask. If you think they won't think of charges for women who "miscarried" under what they

consider suspicious circumstances, think again. States have already imprisoned women during pregnancy for drug use or alcohol abuse. It is a very short step to accusing a woman who miscarried of a behavior that endangered the fetus. I'm not buying it.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #5)

Fri May 17, 2019, 07:48 AM

6. Exactly. They must be called out on it.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 08:12 AM

8. There are a lot of people mad that these bills don't punish the person getting the abortion.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #8)

Fri May 17, 2019, 09:59 AM

12. They should believe that to be consistent.

We in the pro choice camp believe it is a medical procedure.
They believe it is murder.
They just dont want all the backlash they’d get for jailing the mother. So, doctor takes father fall.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 08:46 AM

9. They fight a war on every front

They want to make life miserable for anyone having anything to do with abortion.

They go after hospitals that provide the service. They go after the doctors. They go after the women. They even go after people who drive women to a clinic.

Just because the others aren't targeted in this particular bill doesn't mean they're not targeted.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 09:47 AM

10. Hypocrisy. That's what it is.

They know that making it a crime to have an abortion won't fly. Many of them have daughters, nieces and granddaughters, too. You can bet that an unwanted pregnancy would get terminated for them, maybe out of state.

Hypocrisy. It's what's happening.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Fri May 17, 2019, 09:57 AM

11. I hope all of the doctors in AL turn themselves in to the police.

Claim they helped with abortions, just to help the lege see that they are scaring away doctors.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #11)

Fri May 17, 2019, 10:01 AM

13. Better yet, publicize all the GOP lawmakers who paid for abortions.

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