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Sun May 19, 2019, 08:35 PM

Will women still be allowed to get tubes tied?

Will men still be allowed to get vasectomies?

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Reply Will women still be allowed to get tubes tied? (Original post)
Doreen May 2019 OP
jmowreader May 2019 #1
lordsummerisle May 2019 #2
Doreen May 2019 #6
customerserviceguy May 2019 #10
hatrack May 2019 #14
customerserviceguy May 2019 #16
Skittles May 2019 #3
ProudLib72 May 2019 #5
Doreen May 2019 #9
SoCalDem May 2019 #4
Hekate May 2019 #7
marlakay May 2019 #8
customerserviceguy May 2019 #11
Vinca May 2019 #12
WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #13
Bettie May 2019 #15

Response to Doreen (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 08:50 PM

1. Probably not

Also, condoms will be sold only for disease prevention, all other forms of birth control will be banned, and (if the pregnancy rate remains too low) one live birth every five years will be required.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 09:08 PM

2. Are you speaking of a particular state or nationally?

Such legislation would have a hard time getting passed on a national level...

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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #2)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:49 PM

6. I am talking about the states that have or are trying

to pass that law.

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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #2)

Mon May 20, 2019, 12:10 AM

10. It won't happen

Frankly, no jurisdiction that I have ever heard of has tried anything to restrict access to contraceptives or surgical sterilization. Yes, we had the Hobby Lobby decision, but if I went to work for an Orthodox Jewish organization, and when they offered to buy us all lunch, I would expect some resistance to my request for a bacon double cheeseburger.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #10)

Mon May 20, 2019, 07:26 AM

14. Give it time . . .

Considering that birth control pills are considered "abortofacients" by the Thumpers, they will never, ever stop.

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Response to hatrack (Reply #14)

Mon May 20, 2019, 02:06 PM

16. What we're going to see

is a consolidation of all of the cases involving red states' various restrictions on abortion. There will be the "hard line" view, notably Alabama, that will make the heartbeat and 20 week variations look reasonable by comparison. And exceptions for rape, incest, and serious health complications for the mother will be a part of the decision.

Then, there will be two Americas, but we've already been moving in that direction on a number of topics for quite a few years now.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:38 PM

3. men would always be allowed anything

that's why pharmacists with "deeply held beliefs" are anti-birth control but pro-boner pills

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Response to Skittles (Reply #3)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:46 PM

5. "Pro-boner pills"! That cracked me up!

"Conquering hair loss and prolonging erections" is what it's all about in our Idiocracy!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #5)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:58 PM

9. Thank you. Now my friend and I are laughing our assrs off.

Oh, and my other friend to.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:42 PM

4. In Kansas(1978) I had to have my husband's approval for a tubal ligation

He had to come with me to the DR office and sign the paper..

Even though I was 29 years old and had had 3 sons in 5 years.. TWO of the three pregnancies were pre-term abruptions...(the first almost killed both of us).
Kansas law, y'know

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:50 PM

7. In the Good Old Days a woman had to get her husband's consent. If she had no husband, the slut....

...oh, sorry, did I say that? -- had to search for a doctor and hospital who were willing to take her personal word for her desire to have no children.

Minus needing the husband's permission, I can certainly see a return to making it very difficult. Thanks to George W. Bush, the "conscience clause" to health care already allows providers to refuse to dispense medication or perform procedures that offends their delicate fee-fees. Thanks to the SCOTUS decision on Holly Hobby, this has been further reinforced.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 10:53 PM

8. My daughter begged the doctor

To tie her tubes when she had a stomach operation, they told her she was too young around 25, and had to keep separate.

Few years later she had a ectopic pregnancy that almost killed her. She was using birth control that didnít work.

She had two kids in her early 20ís and didnít want anymore. After that she was real careful doctor told her it would kill her to get pregnant.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #8)

Mon May 20, 2019, 12:14 AM

11. I'm sure a part of that

was that sterilization operations were considered generally irreversible a few decades ago. Nowadays, there are special techniques used that make them considerably more reversible.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 06:19 AM

12. Depends on who's in control. GOPers view women as brood mares.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 07:23 AM

13. Depends on the person. The government has sterilized thousands without their consent or even, in

some cases, their knowledge at the time. State force is an ugly thing.

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Response to Doreen (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 07:44 AM

15. Men will never have their bodies regulated in any way

so vasectomies will always remain legal.

Condoms too, since those boys have to protect themselves from all the "predatory women" out there.

Any thing that allows women to take charge of their own reproductive health? Probably going to be illegal in many states before long.

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