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Iran wants war! (Original Post) True Dough May 2019 OP
Worth more than a thousand words empedocles May 2019 #1
difficult to find any country without usa bases near by Larrybanal May 2019 #15
K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #2
Good one! Zambero May 2019 #3
Iran has always been the target... Wounded Bear May 2019 #4
The Project for a New American Century recommended starting with Iraq and finishing with Saudi Midnight Writer May 2019 #9
The Republicans are SO much better at playing that long game PatrickforO May 2019 #12
You got it. pangaia May 2019 #13
We were discussing this WAY back when in poli sci class ProudLib72 May 2019 #16
If there's ever a real investigation into 9/11/01, PNAC should be Exhibit A. OMGWTF May 2019 #20
Bomb them for me, Donnie. I'll steal another election for you. sandensea May 2019 #5
The day that Mueller sits and testifies the rocket will fly into Iran, tRUMP SayItLoud May 2019 #6
Putin won't allow any attack on Iran Farmer-Rick May 2019 #7
Let's hope not. PatrickforO May 2019 #10
Thanks for the reminder. I just called both of my US Senators. PatrickforO May 2019 #8
rw radio screamed for trump to end the iran deal and now is pushing trump to look tough certainot May 2019 #11
this started with the shah being deposed . AllaN01Bear May 2019 #14
THIRTY-EIGHT?!?! 38 Bases??? Moostache May 2019 #17
That's an old map. GoCubsGo May 2019 #18
1953 the USA and GB screwed Iran for its oil. safeinOhio May 2019 #19
Actually Vladimir Putin wants war. Initech May 2019 #21
He's not the only one though sandensea May 2019 #22
 

Larrybanal

(227 posts)
15. difficult to find any country without usa bases near by
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:44 PM
May 2019

but it is impossible in the middle east. gotta keep spending military money so they can demand more next year

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
4. Iran has always been the target...
Mon May 20, 2019, 12:55 PM
May 2019

We assisted Saddam in the 80's because of his war with Iran. Once that ended, Saddam was no longer our "friend."

9/11 was the excuse to go into Afghanistan (somewhat justified), and was twisted into the false justification for Iraq. Surrounding Iran was the strategic premise.

Midnight Writer

(21,739 posts)
9. The Project for a New American Century recommended starting with Iraq and finishing with Saudi
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:10 PM
May 2019

Iraq was the starting point because Hussein was not a Muslim fundamentalist and therefore would not stir up a lot of Muslim resistance. Afghanistan was chosen for its strategic location, both for oil transport and positioning of military assets. That puts Iran right in the middle, for the next conquest. This is Phase One. After completion of Phase One, we would control Iraq's oil, Iran's oil, and oil from the "Stans".




pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. You got it.
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:18 PM
May 2019

And I wish our DEM candidates would spread this info far and wide.

What a great argument, in my view, for getting rid of the fascists in republican garb.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. We were discussing this WAY back when in poli sci class
Mon May 20, 2019, 02:15 PM
May 2019

It was common knowledge. Nobody seemed to care. Second Gulf War comes along and no one remembers the hit list. They take Colin Powell's word for it that there are WMDs. Why? Bill Kristol dissolves the PNAC in 2006 and forms Foreign Policy Initiative in 2009. The FPI dissolved in 2017. These are very strange happenings if you ask me. PNAC was prelude to the Gulf War II. FPI, though? I believe FPI was a no-no because they viewed Russia as an enemy.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
6. The day that Mueller sits and testifies the rocket will fly into Iran, tRUMP
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:02 PM
May 2019

will have heads up of a couple of weeks before Mueller sits to testify. During that lead up there will be attacks on Saudi, Israeli and US interests by "Iran". Think Erik Prince and his black OPs will be helping craft the story leading up to boom boom and eating up the headlines.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
8. Thanks for the reminder. I just called both of my US Senators.
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:09 PM
May 2019

My Rep is a member of the 'freedom caucus,' so that probably won't do anything, but I'm calling him too.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. rw radio screamed for trump to end the iran deal and now is pushing trump to look tough
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:14 PM
May 2019

that's the problem, and those 1500 stations played a huge part in getting us into iraq.

AllaN01Bear

(18,123 posts)
14. this started with the shah being deposed .
Mon May 20, 2019, 01:35 PM
May 2019

but it goes back further than that . ronnie messed up the rescue attempt of the hostages , (remember iran contra) to make jimmy carter look bad . thence always have to get iran or fill in the blank. our country has been at war with so and so for 200 years . isnt it time to come home ?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
17. THIRTY-EIGHT?!?! 38 Bases???
Mon May 20, 2019, 02:19 PM
May 2019

WTactualF???

As much as the sabre rattling and current administration are a huge problem, its just as much a problem for us to be operating 38 military bases in the region - not including black sites, naval deployments or local influence and infiltration into militias and tribal areas.

So sick of hearing "how would we pay for THAT?" or "the new green deal is TOO expensive"...fuck all of that shit. Want to save a crap ton of money? Burn down Empire USA and close all by a very few overseas bases and forward operating areas. Bring the boys home, alive and with less dammage to their minds and bodies...

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
18. That's an old map.
Mon May 20, 2019, 02:22 PM
May 2019

The US pulled out of Prince Sultan in Saudi Arabia in 2003, giving Osama bin Laden what he wanted most. The point, however, is accurate.

safeinOhio

(32,669 posts)
19. 1953 the USA and GB screwed Iran for its oil.
Mon May 20, 2019, 02:31 PM
May 2019

The CIA has publicly admitted for the first time that it was behind the notorious 1953 coup against Iran's democratically elected prime minister Mohammad Mosaddeq, in documents that also show how the British government tried to block the release of information about its own involvement in his overthrow.

Misaddeq was loved by the people and we installed the brutal Shah. It ain't our freedom they hate. It's our love of oil.

Initech

(100,060 posts)
21. Actually Vladimir Putin wants war.
Mon May 20, 2019, 03:21 PM
May 2019

He's just manipulating us because we have a history of that sort of thing. And an uncontrollable man child at the helm who could actually carry it out.

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