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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:19 PM

mobeau69 (10,226 posts)

Seth Hettena on CNN: Accounting information is better than tax information.

Tax information is private and can be kept from the public. Accounting information has no such restrictions.

E. Cummins told April Ryan that the order is a very big deal. A very big deal. She said he said it twice.

There is no stay. Red Don will have to ask the superior court and then ultimately the SC for a stay.

The judge is a black man appointed by Obama but has ruled in Red Don's favor in the past according to April.

We shall see if justice prevails. The fucker's on his way to PA. He'll be crazy tonight.

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Seth Hettena on CNN: Accounting information is better than tax information. (Original post)	mobeau69	May 2019	OP
He's not a black man	SoCalNative	May 2019	#1
Damn, and that came from April!	mobeau69	May 2019	#3
I was wondering about that. He looked Middle Eastern or something to me...	Honeycombe8	May 2019	#6
Well, we're saying, this is a judge who isn't afraid of Trump-	dawg day	May 2019	#9
Exactly. Meanwhile....	Honeycombe8	May 2019	#11
interestingly	qazplm135	May 2019	#10
Since the judge denied the stay, by the time Trump can appeal	The Velveteen Ocelot	May 2019	#2
They can ask the appellate court for a stay.	Nevilledog	May 2019	#4
The firm will be allowed "time" to pull everything together.	mobeau69	May 2019	#5
The parties already agreed on the subpoena return date,	The Velveteen Ocelot	May 2019	#7
Pretty sure the defense has thought of the "race' aspect beforehand,	Chin music	May 2019	#8
What that would mean is that Congress would have to return the records & couldn't use them.	Honeycombe8	May 2019	#12
Exactly. The cat would be out of the bag even if they couldn't talk to the cat.	The Velveteen Ocelot	May 2019	#13
That may mean that the Judge thinks it's unlikely the ruling will be overturned OR	Honeycombe8	May 2019	#14
Correct. He ruled an appeal would likely not be successful.	mobeau69	May 2019	#16
"We shall see if justice prevails. The fucker's on his way to PA. He'll be crazy tonight."	NCjack	May 2019	#15

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:23 PM

SoCalNative (4,613 posts)

1. He's not a black man

He was born in India.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:24 PM

mobeau69 (10,226 posts)

3. Damn, and that came from April!

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:30 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

6. I was wondering about that. He looked Middle Eastern or something to me...

but Indian fits.

I can imagine what Trumpers are saying about that right now. ("He's a Muslim!"

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:43 PM

dawg day (7,947 posts)

9. Well, we're saying, this is a judge who isn't afraid of Trump-

and believes in the rule of law, and ... thirdly but still important, shows the greatness of our diverse society, by damn.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:57 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

11. Exactly. Meanwhile....

I bet Trump asked to see his birth certificate, when this case was assigned to Mehta. I betcha.

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #1)

Mon May 20, 2019, 07:52 PM

qazplm135 (7,426 posts)

10. interestingly

as a black man, I once has some from India convinced I was Indian.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:23 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (108,854 posts)

2. Since the judge denied the stay, by the time Trump can appeal

the committee will already have the records - so what's the point? In any event, the accountant's records are almost certainly more useful and interesting than the tax returns, because tax returns don't tell much about what assets a person has; only how much money they made or lost. I think the accounting records will be very juicy.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:25 PM

Nevilledog (47,149 posts)

4. They can ask the appellate court for a stay.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:28 PM

mobeau69 (10,226 posts)

5. The firm will be allowed "time" to pull everything together.

It may be a race. But the order should not be stayed regardless. Who knows how far the courts will go to cover for Red Don.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:31 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (108,854 posts)

7. The parties already agreed on the subpoena return date,

and the accounting firm has never opposed turning over the records. They requested a "friendly" subpoena just to cover their butts. I'm sure they'll produce the records as ordered rather than risk fines or their firm partners going to jail.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:32 PM

Chin music (23,000 posts)

8. Pretty sure the defense has thought of the "race' aspect beforehand,

and is ready to strike. FU red don.
"red don rimming' will be the title to his next porn movie.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 07:59 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

12. What that would mean is that Congress would have to return the records & couldn't use them.

They couldn't use those records for anything...other cases or investigations, impeachment, etc.

But the good thing is that they would have seen them, and gotten information from them which would give them knowledge they could use.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 08:01 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (108,854 posts)

13. Exactly. The cat would be out of the bag even if they couldn't talk to the cat.

Or something like that.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 08:07 PM

Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)

14. That may mean that the Judge thinks it's unlikely the ruling will be overturned OR

that Trump can ask the Appellate Court to halt the production of the documents, while it gets briefs on appeal. The Judge may suspect Trump would use the appeals (there will be two) would be used as a delay tactic.

A great ruling.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 08:31 PM

mobeau69 (10,226 posts)

16. Correct. He ruled an appeal would likely not be successful.

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Mon May 20, 2019, 08:23 PM

NCjack (10,165 posts)

15. "We shall see if justice prevails. The fucker's on his way to PA. He'll be crazy tonight."

Tonight, he will experience the maximum in his blood pressure.

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