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Wed May 22, 2019, 12:12 PM

So, I watched FOX's live feed and of the Pelosi/Schumer press conference. And I read the comments.

OMG, these people are just as hateful and as blind as ever. One comment after another of just pure vitriol against the democratic leaders and tons of love for Trump.

This is going to be an uphill battle.

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Reply So, I watched FOX's live feed and of the Pelosi/Schumer press conference. And I read the comments. (Original post)
Shell_Seas May 2019 OP
Chin music May 2019 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #2
Shell_Seas May 2019 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #4
SWBTATTReg May 2019 #9
lapfog_1 May 2019 #5
Shell_Seas May 2019 #7
FakeNoose May 2019 #6
Cirque du So-What May 2019 #8
Shell_Seas May 2019 #10
gratuitous May 2019 #12
stonecutter357 May 2019 #11
pecosbob May 2019 #13
0rganism May 2019 #14
ooky May 2019 #15
DFW May 2019 #16
Sugarcoated May 2019 #17

Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:13 PM

1. So you read the russian posts?

Or the American collaborators who support him? It's theatre, to mask some sort of support he really doesnt have. IMO.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:15 PM

2. Don't forget, Trump's base is *only* about 37% - and shrinking.

The vitriol you see on Fox is coming from them - old, angry white people - and there are far fewer of them than there are of us. Trump plays only to that base. He's like the head of a religious cult that doesn't accept converts.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:15 PM

3. Why does it feel like his brand is winning?

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:16 PM

4. Because they're louder.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:21 PM

9. I agree w/ you. They're a bunch of thugs and creeps, obviously. They're the ones...

who outshout anybody else who has anything reasonable to say etc.

One thing to remember, the numbers on our side by far...100%-37% (supposed rump supporters) means 63% left.

63%, a difference of 26% over rump. This is huge. And everyday rump mouths off w/ his garbage, more voters are turned off and will not support rump anymore.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:17 PM

5. because you are watching trump tv

he isn't winning

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #5)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:19 PM

7. I typically don't. It was just the first link I found...

Regardless, I live in a red state; my republican family and coworkers gloat a lot.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:19 PM

6. It was on Faux News, that's why

Nowhere else is his brand "winning." Don't be fooled.



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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:20 PM

8. Why, you ask?

'So, I watched FOX's live feed and of the Pelosi/Schumer press conference. And I read the comments.'

Q.E.D.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #8)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:22 PM

10. Point taken.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:24 PM

12. Projection

Trump's modus operandi is to bluster and preen and gaslight until you doubt the plain evidence before your eyes. It feels like his brand is winning right up until the second it isn't winning, and there's nothing more to be gained. In his usual dealings, Trump just walks away from the mess he created and leaves behind a trail of broken promises and threats of expensive and time-consuming litigation. Most of his marks just cut their losses at that point and give up.

This isn't like that, however. It doesn't mean Trump isn't going to use his tried-and-true tactics, hoping against hope that he'll be allowed to walk away again. Whether he realizes he's waddled into the threshing blades and it's too late to turn back now is a question for future historians, but he's in deep shit as long as we keep the pressure on.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:23 PM

11. FOX's live feed / russian cricist actors ....

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:27 PM

13. They're the Borg

you can't reason with them or convert them.

Edit*...in a very few rare cases the afflicted can be redeemed but only through a rigorous family intervention for a lengthy period (i.e. my younger brother).

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:34 PM

14. this has always been an uphill battle

and unfortunately it will remain so for the foreseeable future. thinking the battle was going our way has often been a dangerous illusion used by the powerful to sow seeds of complacency and alienation.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:40 PM

15. Ah....the Magats. Any day now I expect to see a Trump magat rally

where they start crawling on their bellies.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:44 PM

16. Trumpanzees do not change their spots--or their blind hate

Keep in mind there are professionals who have several dozen identities who do nothing but sit in front of a computer all day and spout out this stuff. It doesn't matter whether they are in St. Petersburg, Russia or St. Petersburg, Florida.They are fewer in number than they seem.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 02:06 PM

17. Yet they are only about 35% of the voting population

How is that an uphill battle? I don't see it that way at all. They are irrelevant, and they don't matter insofar as reality and the numbers for us to win in 2020.

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