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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump talking about tariffs on Mexico. It will fuck us beyond belief.
Want to pay more for your underwear, your jeans, your shirts, your shoes, and hundreds of everyday things you buy? And even if items are not made in Mexico, American sellers will raise the prices on all equivalent items made elsewhere. After all, why pass up an opportunity to fuck Americans who are stuck buying necessities.
There are many thousands of reasons that Trump, and the Republican Party need to just go away and get out of our lives.
It's so ironic that many people who consistently vote for them are getting fucked beyond belief. Yet, they don't/can't "get it." It's possible that this form of ignorance is an unrecognized disease.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,482 posts)That is where Trump is taking us if he keeps this tariff shit up. For disposable income is what drives the economy.
dalton99a
(81,065 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,119 posts)unblock
(51,974 posts)Cyrano
(15,023 posts)And the rest of us will be living with Uber, buses, and whatever transportation is available if you don't live in a city.
unblock
(51,974 posts)you can enjoy watching them from the bus!
Cyrano
(15,023 posts)SamKnause
(13,042 posts)The closest grocery store is a 23 mile round trip.
It is a Save-A-Lot grocery discount store.
I would like to see you bike 23 miles loaded down with groceries.
How are disabled people suppose to get around ???
How are the elderly suppose to get around ???
Buy a bike.
What a joke.
Cyrano
(15,023 posts)I hear you loud and clear. And I wish I had an answer. I wish I had a cure. I wish our government would recognize what you just said and would help provide a solution.
But my wishes, and yours, will not come to be in the current march back to the dark ages.
We know that those in power will not fix any of it and don't give a rat's ass if it's ever fixed.
All we can do is vote for people who care about other people. Beyond that, we are helpless beyond insurrection. And we see that, what insurrection has done to much of the rest of the world, is unacceptable in terms of human life and well being.
But to come back to what you've said. Damn, I hear you, I empathize, I get it, I hear you. But I can't change it. Hopefully, the Cavalry is over the hill and on the way to save us all. But short of the ballot box, or a violent reaction to the crazies with which I don't want to happen, I really don't know what to do.
Yet, we are joined by our hopes, our fears, and our vision of a better world.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,276 posts)shanti
(21,670 posts)Guess I'll be cooking at home a lot more.
pandr32
(11,447 posts)I have never seen restaurant prices go down after they've been raised.
Bettie
(15,998 posts)that I've ever seen go down after it goes up.
Cyrano
(15,023 posts)Or the senses of whatever "supreme" entity may exist.
For "believers," a $10 salad should be a sign that "the dark side" has taken over and is running things.
But what the hell. Why rely on omens, thoughtfulness, or even facts? After all, we're being fed a platter of bullshit daily. No reason to rely on our own instincts, intelligence, or common sense.
George Orwell's final line in his classic, "Brave New World," is the ultimate defeat of humanity. His protagonist, while watching a TV screen, has had his brain destroyed to the point where "He loves Big Brother."
Is this our future?
dalton99a
(81,065 posts)Initech
(99,914 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,362 posts)Drives libruls crazy
Dirty Socialist
(3,248 posts)Bad news: the economy might be in serious trouble
Good news: Trump might be FUCKED in 2020
More bad news: we might have to spend a lot of time cleaning up Trump's mess
Cyrano
(15,023 posts)Getting rid of Trump isn't enough.
We must rid ourselves of the disease called the Republican Party. And then we must start rebuilding the country that most of us once believed we lived in.
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)He is a symptom, not a cause ...
world wide wally
(21,719 posts)Marthe48
(16,691 posts)And plant a veggie garden. Plant fruit trees and bushes. Keep reaching out to friends. Share your resources. We need our local social networks to be strong.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Unless you live in a one bedroom apartment in the city.
Marthe48
(16,691 posts)I don't forget about urban dwellers. It's just that I have seen so many clever ideas to grow gardens, I assume everyone can find a spot even in a 1 bedroom apt.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)around him understands either or they're too fucking cowardly to tell him or he's puts his hands over his ears and goos "Naa, naa, naa, naa, can't hear you" when they do try to explain.
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Instead of crying over paying more, and losing access to goods made by poor Mexicans who are paid starvation wages, we should have been agitating and voting for higher wages and stronger labor for the last 40 years. We coasted. We were passive. So long as we could squeak by with cheap shopping.
It always seems wrong to me that we lament when we can't get cheap goods, based on someone else's subsistence life. We should have been demanding that owners pay all workers a living wage. For us and for South Americans.
Should demand a fair progressive tax system so we aren't being robbed by the 1%. The tax system we have now is a way to move our wages up and out of our grasp. Thne we need cheap goods for our toys for our birthday parties.
It's like we're sleep walking, incapable of a deeper economic analysis, when we're often only getting by because people to the South of us (and elsewhere around the world) are really suffering.
Democrats are better than this.
IronLionZion
(45,257 posts)Everything this administration does is to benefit their wealthy cronies.
There are Democrats who support international minimum wage and workers' rights. Back in the day, Fritz Hollings even suggested implementing a sort of Marshall plan for economic development in countries south of the border instead of a border wall.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Tariffs have never helped workers. Not advocating for that at all. Advocating for wages. A cross border Marshall Plan sounds great. Didn't know about Hollings effort. Thanks for the info.
ooky
(8,885 posts)also rise to pay for the tariffs in their capital equipment and tooling that is also produced in Mexico. So they will have to recover that cost as well.
There are a lot of U.S. manufacturing companies in shock today. Supply chains back to Mexico are a common strategy in American manufacturing. American manufacturing is essentially interwoven with Mexico through its supply chain investments.
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)Do they know how much beer is imported from Mexico, how many pickup truck parts come from there since all of the American auto makers have moved stuff to Mexico.
How will they blame Obama and the Democrats for this?
Skittles
(152,964 posts)they're fucking stupid
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)Executive Order. Because they are temporary, manufacturers cannot risk developing new facilities. No new jobs will be created. Americans will pay more for food and goods. The tariffs will cost Mexico enough that they won't be able to afford additional border personnel.
Trump has made the immigration problem worse, not better. Trump has made American families poorer because most of the tariff will be passed on to US consumers.